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Postby Kikapu » Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:18 am

waldorf wrote:Kiks, Deniz, wouldn't this English saying fit the bill - "there's a time and place for everything" ?


Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, kind of.! :lol:

The above describes appropriateness for something to happen at an appropiate time but it is not a deliberate intent on saving and waiting on something to happen in the future.!

Except perhaps one saving their virginity for marriage.! :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:19 am

denizaksulu wrote:Not meaningless Kiks.

Instead of burning the hay to get rid of it, keep for later, you never know when it will be useful - especially if you keep cattle or sheep.

The conclusion is the same as yours though.

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I wouldn't try and put a political spin on this or attempt to gloss it over for your propaganda, just because it has taken them some time to initiate a response.

I think it has already been pointed out, but it's only been a few years since they have been able to gain access to assess the damage to the churches and monasteries. It takes time to collect all the evidence together and they have only been able to do this for about 2 - 3 years really!

Also, they may have been waiting for other landmark cases to reach fruition before risking taking away the impact from those.

And as Nikitas pointed out, the Church sees 35 years as nanoseconds in their time-frames ...
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Postby The Cypriot » Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:46 pm

Byron wrote:Well after reading all that crap about Latin, Italian and Koine, perhaps we can revert back to the original thread. In my mind the Greek Orthodox Church of Cyprus has done well into taking legal action. Why on earth has it taken them 35 years to act ?


Perhaps, like many Cypriots, they've only just realised they were autocephalous and could act independently, without permission from the Greek Patriarch. After all, he may have had reasons for not wanting to upset his hosts in Constantinople.
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Postby Oracle » Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:03 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
Byron wrote:Well after reading all that crap about Latin, Italian and Koine, perhaps we can revert back to the original thread. In my mind the Greek Orthodox Church of Cyprus has done well into taking legal action. Why on earth has it taken them 35 years to act ?


Perhaps, like many Cypriots, they've only just realised they were autocephalous and could act independently, without permission from the Greek Patriarch. After all, he may have had reasons for not wanting to upset his hosts in Constantinople.


Malista .... esi tous photises :roll:
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Whilst I fully support that.....

Postby cymart » Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:16 pm

ALL religious and historical monuments in all countries should be respected,I do not consider the Cyprus Othodox church and especially its present leader to be anything more than a conniving and crooked pseudo-religious leader who is in reality nothing more than a hard-nosed Paphiot business man that also pokes his nose into politics when he has no right to!
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Postby The Cypriot » Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:44 pm

Oracle wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Byron wrote:Well after reading all that crap about Latin, Italian and Koine, perhaps we can revert back to the original thread. In my mind the Greek Orthodox Church of Cyprus has done well into taking legal action. Why on earth has it taken them 35 years to act ?


Perhaps, like many Cypriots, they've only just realised they were autocephalous and could act independently, without permission from the Greek Patriarch. After all, he may have had reasons for not wanting to upset his hosts in Constantinople.


Malista .... esi tous photises :roll:

:roll:
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Re: Whilst I fully support that.....

Postby The Cypriot » Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:46 pm

cymart wrote:ALL religious and historical monuments in all countries should be respected,I do not consider the Cyprus Othodox church and especially its present leader to be anything more than a conniving and crooked pseudo-religious leader who is in reality nothing more than a hard-nosed Paphiot business man that also pokes his nose into politics when he has no right to!


I don't disagree. But in this legal case I still say good luck to him.
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Postby The Cypriot » Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:16 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Byron wrote:Well after reading all that crap about Latin, Italian and Koine, perhaps we can revert back to the original thread. In my mind the Greek Orthodox Church of Cyprus has done well into taking legal action. Why on earth has it taken them 35 years to act ?


Perhaps, like many Cypriots, they've only just realised they were autocephalous and could act independently, without permission from the Greek Patriarch. After all, he may have had reasons for not wanting to upset his hosts in Constantinople.


Malista .... esi tous photises :roll:

:roll:


Having said that.... I just remembered this thread from back in April:

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... highlight=

Church of Cyprus to sue Republic of Turkey?

The ECJ ruling opens the door for other land owners expelled from the north to seek redress in the courts of EU member countries and to claim against assets the current occupiers may have in such countries.

Aside, of course, from the government of Cyprus the largest land owner in the north is the Cypriot Orthodox Church. What's to stop this bastion of divine truth and justice (not short of a shilling or two and certainly not a fan of the continuing Anatolian intervention) from pursuing the Republic of Turkey (and/or its subordinate regime) and seizing any assets it may have in the EU, eg. embassies, consulates, as compensation?


Maybe his Eminence, with God's help, checks in occasionally to the CF. :wink:
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Postby Oracle » Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:00 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Byron wrote:Well after reading all that crap about Latin, Italian and Koine, perhaps we can revert back to the original thread. In my mind the Greek Orthodox Church of Cyprus has done well into taking legal action. Why on earth has it taken them 35 years to act ?


Perhaps, like many Cypriots, they've only just realised they were autocephalous and could act independently, without permission from the Greek Patriarch. After all, he may have had reasons for not wanting to upset his hosts in Constantinople.


Malista .... esi tous photises :roll:

:roll:


Having said that.... I just remembered this thread from back in April:

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... highlight=

Church of Cyprus to sue Republic of Turkey?

The ECJ ruling opens the door for other land owners expelled from the north to seek redress in the courts of EU member countries and to claim against assets the current occupiers may have in such countries.

Aside, of course, from the government of Cyprus the largest land owner in the north is the Cypriot Orthodox Church. What's to stop this bastion of divine truth and justice (not short of a shilling or two and certainly not a fan of the continuing Anatolian intervention) from pursuing the Republic of Turkey (and/or its subordinate regime) and seizing any assets it may have in the EU, eg. embassies, consulates, as compensation?


Maybe his Eminence, with God's help, checks in occasionally to the CF. :wink:


Kyrie Eleison! :shock:

.... Now, I have to resume going to Church on Sundays. :lol:

Which nick do you think his Eminence has?
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Postby The Cypriot » Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:05 pm

Oracle wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Byron wrote:Well after reading all that crap about Latin, Italian and Koine, perhaps we can revert back to the original thread. In my mind the Greek Orthodox Church of Cyprus has done well into taking legal action. Why on earth has it taken them 35 years to act ?


Perhaps, like many Cypriots, they've only just realised they were autocephalous and could act independently, without permission from the Greek Patriarch. After all, he may have had reasons for not wanting to upset his hosts in Constantinople.


Malista .... esi tous photises :roll:

:roll:


Having said that.... I just remembered this thread from back in April:

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... highlight=

Church of Cyprus to sue Republic of Turkey?

The ECJ ruling opens the door for other land owners expelled from the north to seek redress in the courts of EU member countries and to claim against assets the current occupiers may have in such countries.

Aside, of course, from the government of Cyprus the largest land owner in the north is the Cypriot Orthodox Church. What's to stop this bastion of divine truth and justice (not short of a shilling or two and certainly not a fan of the continuing Anatolian intervention) from pursuing the Republic of Turkey (and/or its subordinate regime) and seizing any assets it may have in the EU, eg. embassies, consulates, as compensation?


Maybe his Eminence, with God's help, checks in occasionally to the CF. :wink:


Kyrie Eleison! :shock:

.... Now, I have to resume going to Church on Sundays. :lol:

Which nick do you think his Eminence has?


Simon, of course. :lol:
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