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by Viewpoint » Sun Aug 23, 2009 2:34 pm
taksim was in reaction to enosis, without enosis you would have never have brought on the events of 1974 and the partition of today. When the majority decides to abuse their numerical advantage to place the minority in danger is the day they lose the right to rule, why was the veto necessary in the first place to stop the facist Gcs from controling the whole island and gifting it to Greece. Your Gc dream for enosis brought death destruction and war to the island whereas the explosion of 1974 has brought the peaceful exsistence to all Cypriots not just GCs as was their goal....grow up and face your mistakes you are not to ever be trusted with the freedom to do as you wish and brush us the Tcs to one side ever again. Majority rule ends where it is abused and revolt starts, dwell on that for a few seconds and ty to understand where things went wrong.
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by paliometoxo » Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:20 pm
loll he blames enosis... its funny espesially when tcs voted yes for enosis... again trying to make excuses to partition our island and fill it with mainland turks and kill off the tcs and ban everything tc in the north...
turning a blind eye to gambling when its illigal.. a imvaded land trying to become a state...
turning a blind eye to gambling when its illigal.. a imvaded land trying to become a state...
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by Viewpoint » Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:27 pm
Dr J wrote:Viewpoint i doubt anyone takes any of your posts seriously - your just wasting your life now when you type them.
Hello this is a public forum...everyone can post you have the right not to respond but no right to shut me up..its not the 1960s anymore yet you still try it on and prove why we need plenty of safeguards and guarantees.
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by Piratis » Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:12 am
Union with Greece was (1) what the vast majority of Cypriots wanted, (2) a right of the Cypriot people (http://www.un.org/Depts/dpi/decolonizat ... ration.htm) and (3) Would violate the human rights of nobody.
On the contrary partition was (1) not your right, because (2) it required the ethnic cleansing of the majority of people from their homeland since (3) TCs are a minority in all parts of Cyprus and they didn't own any separate territory.
How could it be OK for Cyprus to be part of the Ottoman or British empires against the will of the Cypriot people and with Cypriots being mere subjects of those empires, and not OK for Cyprus to be part of a Republic which Cypriots democratically choose to belong, and were Cypriots would be equal citizens?
So what we asked for was nothing less than what was our right.
On the other hand, what you were asking, and what you started a conflict and later a war in order to achieve, was criminal and illegal, since it involved the ethnic cleansing of 5 out of every 6 Cypriots from the north part of Cyprus, their replacement with foreign Settlers, and the declaration of some "Turkish State" on land that belongs by over 80% to Greek Cypriots.
Union with Greece was the 100% right of the Cypriot people. All the killings in Cyprus were due to the Turkish aggression and your efforts to impose your will by force on our island. If it wasn't for the Turkish aggression there would be any problems in Cyprus.
The Cypriot people never left from their island to harm anybody. It is the Turks who keep invading our island and are starting conflicts and wars in order to oppress our human and democratic rights and impose their will on our island by force.
If you think that the ethnic cleansing and uprooting of 100s of thousands of Cypriots from the land that their ancestors have lived for 1000s of years is a way to "bring peace", then wouldn't it be much better to instead send the TCs back to Turkey since this would require the relocation of much fewer people and the TCs have much shallower roots in Cyprus than we do?
So if to maintain peace in Cyprus the "solution" is to keep GCs and TCs separately, then why did they bring you to Cyprus in the first place? Did they bring you here in order to create a problem? And since this is shown to be the case, then why instead of taking you back from where they brought you, solving in this way the problem you created by coming to our island, they instead bring more and more Turkish Settlers in Cyprus?
On the contrary partition was (1) not your right, because (2) it required the ethnic cleansing of the majority of people from their homeland since (3) TCs are a minority in all parts of Cyprus and they didn't own any separate territory.
How could it be OK for Cyprus to be part of the Ottoman or British empires against the will of the Cypriot people and with Cypriots being mere subjects of those empires, and not OK for Cyprus to be part of a Republic which Cypriots democratically choose to belong, and were Cypriots would be equal citizens?
So what we asked for was nothing less than what was our right.
On the other hand, what you were asking, and what you started a conflict and later a war in order to achieve, was criminal and illegal, since it involved the ethnic cleansing of 5 out of every 6 Cypriots from the north part of Cyprus, their replacement with foreign Settlers, and the declaration of some "Turkish State" on land that belongs by over 80% to Greek Cypriots.
taksim was in reaction to enosis, without enosis you would have never have brought on the events of 1974 and the partition of today. When the majority decides to abuse their numerical advantage to place the minority in danger is the day they lose the right to rule, why was the veto necessary in the first place to stop the facist Gcs from controling the whole island and gifting it to Greece. Your Gc dream for enosis brought death destruction and war to the island whereas the explosion of 1974 has brought the peaceful exsistence to all Cypriots not just GCs as was their goal....grow up and face your mistakes you are not to ever be trusted with the freedom to do as you wish and brush us the Tcs to one side ever again. Majority rule ends where it is abused and revolt starts, dwell on that for a few seconds and ty to understand where things went wrong.
Union with Greece was the 100% right of the Cypriot people. All the killings in Cyprus were due to the Turkish aggression and your efforts to impose your will by force on our island. If it wasn't for the Turkish aggression there would be any problems in Cyprus.
The Cypriot people never left from their island to harm anybody. It is the Turks who keep invading our island and are starting conflicts and wars in order to oppress our human and democratic rights and impose their will on our island by force.
If you think that the ethnic cleansing and uprooting of 100s of thousands of Cypriots from the land that their ancestors have lived for 1000s of years is a way to "bring peace", then wouldn't it be much better to instead send the TCs back to Turkey since this would require the relocation of much fewer people and the TCs have much shallower roots in Cyprus than we do?
So if to maintain peace in Cyprus the "solution" is to keep GCs and TCs separately, then why did they bring you to Cyprus in the first place? Did they bring you here in order to create a problem? And since this is shown to be the case, then why instead of taking you back from where they brought you, solving in this way the problem you created by coming to our island, they instead bring more and more Turkish Settlers in Cyprus?
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