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[denizaksulu]

http://unfashionablerantings.blogspot.com/search/label/conspiracy%20theories

Truths r there... by a very well knowledged, GC academic and researcher...

Very well written and one wonders!!

Thank you for that Insan. Its given me a headache.

[Kikapu]

:lol:

Just googled the translation, I see what you mean.

Can Shitbags KuKluxPoo have a look at this translation too. He will find the answer to the age old mathematical qustion of squaring the circle.
Fancy that.

Just googled the translation, I see what you mean.

And then there were two who could not make legible sentences, YFreak and Google translator.!

God damn, YFreak. If you had a brain you would be very dangerous. There must be God after all for not giving you one and sparing us of your torture. But then again, we have to read your illiterate crap because God did not give you a brain, so you torture us all the same. Shit YFreak, looks like we can't win this one at all. It is a case of Head you win and Tail we lose.!

squaring the circle.

Still waiting for your answer as to what the above means. You have had a whole week to look it up, so what is it.?

As for me, the above fits perfectly in my solution.!

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... sc&start=0

[YFred]

:lol:

Just googled the translation, I see what you mean.

Can Shitbags KuKluxPoo have a look at this translation too. He will find the answer to the age old mathematical qustion of squaring the circle.
Fancy that.

Just googled the translation, I see what you mean.

And then there were two who could not make legible sentences, YFreak and Google translator.!

God damn, YFreak. If you had a brain you would be very dangerous. There must be God after all for not giving you one and sparing us of your torture. But then again, we have to read your illiterate crap because God did not give you a brain, so you torture us all the same. Shit YFreak, looks like we can't win this one at all. It is a case of Head you win and Tail we lose.!

squaring the circle.

Still waiting for your answer as to what the above means. You have had a whole week to look it up, so what is it.?

As for me, the above fits perfectly in my solution.!

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... sc&start=0

Hava kurşun gibi ağır!
Bağır bağır bağır bağırıyorum!
Koşun kurşun eritmeğe çağırıyorum

O diyor ki bana:
Sen kendi sesinle kül olursun ey!
Kerem gibi yana yana
Deeeert çok, hem dert yok, yüreklerin kulakları sağır,
Hava kurşun gibi ağır

Ben diyorum ki ona:
Kül olayım Kerem gibi yana yana
Ben yanmasam sen yanmasan biz yanmasak, nasıl çıkar karanlıklar aydınlığa.
Hava toprak gibi gebe.
Hava kurşun gibi ağır.
Bağır bağır bağır bağırıyorum.
Koşun kurşun eritmeğe çağırıyorum

N Hikmet.
Listen to this with the voice of the great man.

[Nikitas]

I am reading through "Getting it Wrong" by Martin Packard, who was the man who put together the tripartite peace making (as opposed to peace keeping) patrols in Cyprus during the first half of 1964. These were patrols with Packard, one Greek and one Turkish officer going around villages in conflict and reconciling the two sides.

His revelations of that period are an eye opener. And he says of the British attitudes to Cyprus:

"Ultimately everyone has lost from Britain's pursuit of its own narrow self interests in Cyprus and its encouragement of Turkish involvement there. Cyprus has been a prime cause for regional division when it might have been a catalyst for convergence between Turkey and Greece, with vast economic benefits for both countries and for all Cypriots."

Packard illustrates how narrow self interest dominated and perverted the course of events and the British failed to realise that doing it the right way might heave yielded more long term benefits to themselves.

It is useful to bear in mind that this was a British naval intelligence officer who served in critical posts before and after the Cyprus posting. He had access to information and people that were key in the first stages of the problem.

But even so, I still cannot see how partition would be better for the British or NATO than a unified state. THe cold war helped and the fixation with the communist party in Cyprus helped. It is no accident that both EOKA and the TMT were virulent anticommunists.

[wyoming cowboy]

If you were a british or american thinking up ways to destabalize cyprus wouldnt you use pro west militia groups to do your dirty work its so obvious its oblivious to most.....Eoka and TMT both are virulent anticommunitst groups...with the majority of both sides being left leaning

I am reading through "Getting it Wrong" by Martin Packard, who was the man who put together the tripartite peace making (as opposed to peace keeping) patrols in Cyprus during the first half of 1964. These were patrols with Packard, one Greek and one Turkish officer going around villages in conflict and reconciling the two sides.

His revelations of that period are an eye opener. And he says of the British attitudes to Cyprus:

"Ultimately everyone has lost from Britain's pursuit of its own narrow self interests in Cyprus and its encouragement of Turkish involvement there. Cyprus has been a prime cause for regional division when it might have been a catalyst for convergence between Turkey and Greece, with vast economic benefits for both countries and for all Cypriots."

Packard illustrates how narrow self interest dominated and perverted the course of events and the British failed to realise that doing it the right way might heave yielded more long term benefits to themselves.

It is useful to bear in mind that this was a British naval intelligence officer who served in critical posts before and after the Cyprus posting. He had access to information and people that were key in the first stages of the problem.

But even so, I still cannot see how partition would be better for the British or NATO than a unified state. THe cold war helped and the fixation with the communist party in Cyprus helped. It is no accident that both EOKA and the TMT were virulent anticommunists.

[wyoming cowboy]

If you were a british or american thinking up ways to destabalize cyprus wouldnt you use pro west militia groups to do your dirty work its so obvious its oblivious to most.....Eoka and TMT both are virulent anticommunitst groups...with the majority of both sides being left leaning

I am reading through "Getting it Wrong" by Martin Packard, who was the man who put together the tripartite peace making (as opposed to peace keeping) patrols in Cyprus during the first half of 1964. These were patrols with Packard, one Greek and one Turkish officer going around villages in conflict and reconciling the two sides.

His revelations of that period are an eye opener. And he says of the British attitudes to Cyprus:

"Ultimately everyone has lost from Britain's pursuit of its own narrow self interests in Cyprus and its encouragement of Turkish involvement there. Cyprus has been a prime cause for regional division when it might have been a catalyst for convergence between Turkey and Greece, with vast economic benefits for both countries and for all Cypriots."

Packard illustrates how narrow self interest dominated and perverted the course of events and the British failed to realise that doing it the right way might heave yielded more long term benefits to themselves.

It is useful to bear in mind that this was a British naval intelligence officer who served in critical posts before and after the Cyprus posting. He had access to information and people that were key in the first stages of the problem.

But even so, I still cannot see how partition would be better for the British or NATO than a unified state. THe cold war helped and the fixation with the communist party in Cyprus helped. It is no accident that both EOKA and the TMT were virulent anticommunists.

[Paphitis]

If you were a british or american thinking up ways to destabalize cyprus wouldnt you use pro west militia groups to do your dirty work its so obvious its oblivious to most.....Eoka and TMT both are virulent anticommunitst groups...with the majority of both sides being left leaning

I am reading through "Getting it Wrong" by Martin Packard, who was the man who put together the tripartite peace making (as opposed to peace keeping) patrols in Cyprus during the first half of 1964. These were patrols with Packard, one Greek and one Turkish officer going around villages in conflict and reconciling the two sides.

His revelations of that period are an eye opener. And he says of the British attitudes to Cyprus:

"Ultimately everyone has lost from Britain's pursuit of its own narrow self interests in Cyprus and its encouragement of Turkish involvement there. Cyprus has been a prime cause for regional division when it might have been a catalyst for convergence between Turkey and Greece, with vast economic benefits for both countries and for all Cypriots."

Packard illustrates how narrow self interest dominated and perverted the course of events and the British failed to realise that doing it the right way might heave yielded more long term benefits to themselves.

It is useful to bear in mind that this was a British naval intelligence officer who served in critical posts before and after the Cyprus posting. He had access to information and people that were key in the first stages of the problem.

But even so, I still cannot see how partition would be better for the British or NATO than a unified state. THe cold war helped and the fixation with the communist party in Cyprus helped. It is no accident that both EOKA and the TMT were virulent anticommunists.

I don't get your drift WC.

EOKA was a paramilitary guerrilla movement fighting the British for self determination. How can you perceive EOKA to be pro west when they were fighting the Brits?

@ Deniz and YFred - if you can't be serious and stop behaving like children, then get off this thread!

[denizaksulu]

Good day to you too Bafidis. How can one be serious when an article is posted in Greek and we are forced to use 'Google translator'. Lighten up old boy.

[Oracle]

I think too much is made of EOKA being anti-communist.

Grivas was labelled with that from his Greek civil war fighting days and it probably stuck even though he had moved on to a different campaign; albeit one which had no significance to left/right politics of the time since its prime objective was to remove the Brits.

So EOKA being labelled "anti-communist" is meaningless and irrelevant as they were just fighting for freedom. The enemy would have done anything to turn the majority against EOKA.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Imperialists weren't behind a number of the killings of GCs at the time and conveniently attributed them to EOKA to make GCs think less of EOKA.

[Oracle]

Good day to you too Bafidis. How can one be serious when an article is posted in Greek and we are forced to use 'Google translator'. Lighten up old boy.

What's your problem with articles being written in Greek?

The moral and ethical codes of civilisation we live by today were written in Greek, some of the greatest literature was written in Greek, the Hippocratic Oath was written in Greek ... etc

Maybe it's time Greek took over English as the Global language ... Besides it alliterates nicely!

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