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Postby miltiades » Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:21 pm

cyprico wrote:Noway did I say the killers were JEWS OR CHRISTIANS assumptios again mate, whoever did it were human lets not judge what religious denomination they are from, its bad enough human killing human. Miltiades, I saw the light 27 years ago when I converted to Islam.

Exactly what were the main attractions in converting.

And yes , the bombers in Iraq were Muslims .

I do hope that you will one day see the light.
There is no God , never has been and never will.
Man created God to his own image .

Religion is not only the opium of the people but the cancerous decease that eats away at the human race.
Hate and more hate , this is what religion is all about. All religions, but none more so potent as the extreme crusaders of fundamentalism .
The origin of man has long been debated amongst scientists , the origin of God has not because unlike man who exists God does not.A myth created by man, a myth that the most illiterate of nations still accept as reality.
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Postby Floda » Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:07 am

miltiades wrote:
cyprico wrote:Noway did I say the killers were JEWS OR CHRISTIANS assumptios again mate, whoever did it were human lets not judge what religious denomination they are from, its bad enough human killing human. Miltiades, I saw the light 27 years ago when I converted to Islam.

Exactly what were the main attractions in converting.

And yes , the bombers in Iraq were Muslims .

I do hope that you will one day see the light.
There is no God , never has been and never will.
Man created God to his own image .

Religion is not only the opium of the people but the cancerous decease that eats away at the human race.
Hate and more hate , this is what religion is all about. All religions, but none more so potent as the extreme crusaders of fundamentalism .
The origin of man has long been debated amongst scientists , the origin of God has not because unlike man who exists God does not.A myth created by man, a myth that the most illiterate of nations still accept as reality.


When the Muslims gain the ascendancy and reek havoc amidst your mentors miltiades, when Sharia law supersedes the laws of the land in which you seek refuge, when the sword of Islam is raised in final triumph, YOU miltiades, will be among the first to grow a beard and pay homage to Allah.

It is written. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Me Ed » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:13 am

It is evident that Islam has lost the argument in this thread.

They cannot face the fact that more muslims die at the hands of other muslims than anyone else.

Yes, Afghanistan is less safer than it was under the Taliban, but it is muslims that commit the atrocities against their "brothers"?
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:16 am

Me Ed wrote:It is evident that Islam has lost the argument in this thread.

They cannot face the fact that more muslims die at the hands of other muslims than anyone else.

Yes, Afghanistan is less safer than it was under the Taliban, but it is muslims that commit the atrocities against their "brothers"?

I thought this thread was about a bunch of war crime supporting “Christians” pointing their finger at Islam/Muslims that they are bad! Since when did it go political? :lol:

If you’re going to start bringing up Afghanistan you’d better be ready with your credible links because sweeping statements like the above are NOT acceptable.
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Postby miltiades » Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:03 am

Get Real! wrote:
Me Ed wrote:It is evident that Islam has lost the argument in this thread.

They cannot face the fact that more muslims die at the hands of other muslims than anyone else.

Yes, Afghanistan is less safer than it was under the Taliban, but it is muslims that commit the atrocities against their "brothers"?

I thought this thread was about a bunch of war crime supporting “Christians” pointing their finger at Islam/Muslims that they are bad! Since when did it go political? :lol:

If you’re going to start bringing up Afghanistan you’d better be ready with your credible links because sweeping statements like the above are NOT acceptable.

The voice of bullshit has spoken!
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Postby QAMERSLAND » Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:37 am

miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Me Ed wrote:It is evident that Islam has lost the argument in this thread.

They cannot face the fact that more muslims die at the hands of other muslims than anyone else.

Yes, Afghanistan is less safer than it was under the Taliban, but it is muslims that commit the atrocities against their "brothers"?

I thought this thread was about a bunch of war crime supporting “Christians” pointing their finger at Islam/Muslims that they are bad! Since when did it go political? :lol:

If you’re going to start bringing up Afghanistan you’d better be ready with your credible links because sweeping statements like the above are NOT acceptable.

The voice of bullshit has spoken!



Miltiades is an atheist and i congratulate him atleast he has rejected all False Gods and by the will of True one an only God who is our creator and creator of all, which has no image, no statue, which is unseen will guide him to the truth.

We will show them Our Signs in the universe, and in their own selves, until it becomes manifest to them that this (the Qur'ân) is the truth. Is it not sufficient in regard to your Lord that He is a Witness over all things?
Quran 41:53


The Sex of the Child!

Until fairly recently, it was thought that

a baby's sex was determined by the mother's cells. Or at least, it was believed that the sex was determined by the male and female cells together. But we are given different information in the Qur'an,

Where it is stated that masculinity or femininity,, s created out of "a drop of sperm which has been ejected."

He has created both sexes, male and female from a drop of semen which has been ejected.

Qur'an, 53:45-46
Was he not a drop of ejaculated sperm, then a blood-clot which He created and shaped, making from it both sexes, male and female?


Qur'an, 75:37-39
Was he not a drop of ejaculated sperm,...

then a blood-clot which He created and shaped,....

making from it both sexes, male and female?


Qur'an, 75:37-39
The developing disciplines of genetics and molecular biology...

Have scientifically validated the accuracy of this information given by the Qur'an.

It is now understood that sex is determined by the sperm cells from the male, And that the female has no role in this process.

The Y chromosome carries characteristics of masculinity, While the X chromosome carries those of femininity.
In the mother's egg, there is only the X chromosome, which determines female characteristics.

In the semen from the father, there are sperms that include either X or Y chromosomes. Therefore, the sex of the baby depends on whether the sperm fertilizing the egg contains an X or Y chromosome.

If an X chromosome from the female unites with a sperm that contains an X chromosome, then the baby is female. If it unites with the sperm that contains,, a Y chromosome, the baby is male.

In other words, as stated in the verse, the factor determining the sex of the baby is the semen, which comes from the father.

None of this was known until the discovery of genes in the 20th century.


Indeed, in many cultures, it was believed that a baby's sex was determined by the female.

That was why women were blamed... When they gave birth to girls.

Fourteen centuries before human genes were discovered, however,

the Qur'an revealed information that denies this superstition,

And referred to the origin of sex lying not with women, but with the semen deriving from men!

This knowledge, which could not have been known at the

time when the Qur'an was revealed over 1400 years ago,

Is Evidence to the fact that the Qur'an is the Word of Allah.

Is there any ilâh (god) with Allâh?

Say:"Bring forth your proofs, if you are truthful."

Quran 27:64

We will show them Our Signs in the universe, and in their own selves, until it becomes manifest to them that this (the Qur'ân) is the truth. Is it not sufficient in regard to your Lord that He is a Witness over all things?


Quran 41:53

What top Scientist say about the Quran!

Nay, We fling the truth against the falsehood (disbelief), so it destroys it, and behold, it (falsehood) is vanished.

Quran 21:18



Yes, the Quran is from God say the scientists!

http://www.muslimvideo.com/tv/watch/9de67251ea00e6c7970f/Yes,-the-Quran-is-from-God-say-the-[/url]
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Postby miltiades » Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:08 am

Pure unadulterated religious mythology. Not one scrap of evidence scientific or otherwise .
Who says that ant religious book is from God ??
Incidentally I was a mere child when I rejected the religious myth. Since then I have studied numerous religious books including the Quran.
I have found no substance in any of them that my brain would logically accept. Written by men who lived in medieval times . The Bible , old testament , is full of vile cruel acts committed by " God" against the people , the fear of God used against the mostly illiterate mases , just as it is used today. Take the literacy rate in most religious nations and you will find that the more illiterate a nation is the more religious it also is.
There is not one word of compassion for those that by using their own logic reject the "teachings" You are on record , on this forum , that these people who BY USING their logic and left your religion must be put to death !!
There is nothing that religion can offer the world apart from blood , hatred , wars , and MURDER .I consider religion to be the cancer that our world is having to fight , all religion .


Read this you may get your brain working.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 800612.ece
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Postby Me Ed » Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:40 am

QAMERSLAND wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Me Ed wrote:It is evident that Islam has lost the argument in this thread.

They cannot face the fact that more muslims die at the hands of other muslims than anyone else.

Yes, Afghanistan is less safer than it was under the Taliban, but it is muslims that commit the atrocities against their "brothers"?

I thought this thread was about a bunch of war crime supporting “Christians” pointing their finger at Islam/Muslims that they are bad! Since when did it go political? :lol:

If you’re going to start bringing up Afghanistan you’d better be ready with your credible links because sweeping statements like the above are NOT acceptable.

The voice of bullshit has spoken!



Miltiades is an atheist and i congratulate him atleast he has rejected all False Gods and by the will of True one an only God who is our creator and creator of all, which has no image, no statue, which is unseen will guide him to the truth.

We will show them Our Signs in the universe, and in their own selves, until it becomes manifest to them that this (the Qur'ân) is the truth. Is it not sufficient in regard to your Lord that He is a Witness over all things?
Quran 41:53


The Sex of the Child!

Until fairly recently, it was thought that

a baby's sex was determined by the mother's cells. Or at least, it was believed that the sex was determined by the male and female cells together. But we are given different information in the Qur'an,

Where it is stated that masculinity or femininity,, s created out of "a drop of sperm which has been ejected."

He has created both sexes, male and female from a drop of semen which has been ejected.

Qur'an, 53:45-46
Was he not a drop of ejaculated sperm, then a blood-clot which He created and shaped, making from it both sexes, male and female?


Qur'an, 75:37-39
Was he not a drop of ejaculated sperm,...

then a blood-clot which He created and shaped,....

making from it both sexes, male and female?


Qur'an, 75:37-39
The developing disciplines of genetics and molecular biology...

Have scientifically validated the accuracy of this information given by the Qur'an.

It is now understood that sex is determined by the sperm cells from the male, And that the female has no role in this process.

The Y chromosome carries characteristics of masculinity, While the X chromosome carries those of femininity.
In the mother's egg, there is only the X chromosome, which determines female characteristics.

In the semen from the father, there are sperms that include either X or Y chromosomes. Therefore, the sex of the baby depends on whether the sperm fertilizing the egg contains an X or Y chromosome.

If an X chromosome from the female unites with a sperm that contains an X chromosome, then the baby is female. If it unites with the sperm that contains,, a Y chromosome, the baby is male.

In other words, as stated in the verse, the factor determining the sex of the baby is the semen, which comes from the father.

None of this was known until the discovery of genes in the 20th century.


Indeed, in many cultures, it was believed that a baby's sex was determined by the female.

That was why women were blamed... When they gave birth to girls.

Fourteen centuries before human genes were discovered, however,

the Qur'an revealed information that denies this superstition,

And referred to the origin of sex lying not with women, but with the semen deriving from men!

This knowledge, which could not have been known at the

time when the Qur'an was revealed over 1400 years ago,

Is Evidence to the fact that the Qur'an is the Word of Allah.

Is there any ilâh (god) with Allâh?

Say:"Bring forth your proofs, if you are truthful."

Quran 27:64

We will show them Our Signs in the universe, and in their own selves, until it becomes manifest to them that this (the Qur'ân) is the truth. Is it not sufficient in regard to your Lord that He is a Witness over all things?


Quran 41:53

What top Scientist say about the Quran!

Nay, We fling the truth against the falsehood (disbelief), so it destroys it, and behold, it (falsehood) is vanished.

Quran 21:18



Yes, the Quran is from God say the scientists!

http://www.muslimvideo.com/tv/watch/9de67251ea00e6c7970f/Yes,-the-Quran-is-from-God-say-the-[/url]


Qamersland,

Yes, the Quran does contain some science, some of which could have been know at the time, and some that is wrong (i.e. mountains are what pin the land).

Science is not something that is cast in stone and written down some 1600 years ago and mankind is making discoveries all the time.

So if Islam is a living religion, can you simply state the top 5 scientific discoveries that Allah revealed to his muslim followers in say ... the last 100 years?
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Postby Me Ed » Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:43 am

Get Real! wrote:
Me Ed wrote:It is evident that Islam has lost the argument in this thread.

They cannot face the fact that more muslims die at the hands of other muslims than anyone else.

Yes, Afghanistan is less safer than it was under the Taliban, but it is muslims that commit the atrocities against their "brothers"?

I thought this thread was about a bunch of war crime supporting “Christians” pointing their finger at Islam/Muslims that they are bad! Since when did it go political? :lol:

If you’re going to start bringing up Afghanistan you’d better be ready with your credible links because sweeping statements like the above are NOT acceptable.


You evidently live in a vacuum.

This thread is about apostacy and Islam - muslims killing ex-muslims.

Muslims make out that they are all brothers, but it is well know that muslims kill their own with such impunity, apostates do not stand a chance!
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