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[miltiades]

Over the last 7 and a half years I have have had the unenviable task of having to find my self in situations where demanding circumstances forced me to become disparagingly analytical of the medical profession and in particular the front troops as it were , nurses , Doctors on duty etc.
I can honestly say with first hand experience both here in the UK and in Limassol that the level of professionalism and care have been superb.
A small percentage of my personal experience was gained in Limassol at the Polyclinic but in particular the Doctor who looked after my wife , Dr Demitris , up to that time , about 5 years ago now , I knew very little of the true professionalism and dedication of the Cypriot medical professionals.

Last Friday , on visiting my wife at the Royal Marsden Hospital , I met a young Doctor who was so caring and so patient with my wife's persistent questioning I couldnt help admiring the way he handled some rather difficult questions from my wife who after fighting cancer for the last 7 and half year has become a hardened "" interrogator "" , her defence mechanism as I decided it is.
I looked at the name badge of the young doctor and wandered as to the origin of his name Dr.Panai .
He spoke fluent English without the slightest trace of an accent.
I couldnt help my curiosity and wanted to ask where his name originated from. Before I had a chance to do so he lowered his voice , turned to me and said , are You Greek Sir ? No I replied, I'm a G/C !!
Milate Ellinika he asked . But of course I replied !!
I saw Dr Panayioti on Saturday and Sunday.

Earlier on this evening on arriving at the hospital and entering my wife's room , a doctor was in attendance , before I could say anything he looked at me and said , Yia sou Yianni , your wife told me me about you , I'm Dr. Demetris !! Not the one from Cyprus I hasten to add , this Doctor came from Larissa !!

The moral of the story , thank God , even though he doesn't exist , for the West and our dedication to life and the sanctity of life , our commitment to taking care of the less fortunate amongst us , our dedication and perseverance in constantly researching in order to discover treatments to help alleviate decease and suffering , something that the father of medicine hundreds of years ago must have had in mind in devising the great medical oath .
To think that people blow themselves up causing death and horrific injuries , unimaginable.
Long Live The West !

What a succinct and perceptive post, Miltiades. Everyone knows that doctors and nurses outside the 'Western world' show no compassion or empathy with the patient. Only healthcare workers in The West have these qualities. And those nasty 'Third World' doctors refuse to use the most advanced treatments available in The West, always giving that pathetic excuse that apparently they can't afford it. They know nothing about dedication and perseverance. As for sanctity of life, people outside The West have no respect for this, and feel no remorse or grief when their patients or relatives die. The real moral of your story is that you have a deeply disturbed view of humanity.

Indeed I may have a disturbed view of humanity , having witnessed a live monkey having his brains eaten , having witnessed a live dog being skinned alive , and knowing that in some parts of the world the value of life is less than that of an alley cat , having seen the children of India being sold to the Arabs , the children of Brazil being shot by police as if they were stray cats and dogs , innocents being massacred by fanatics who blow themselves up , it is no wonder that I have so much admiration for our Western world .
Yes Sir , I'm proud of our values of life and long may we continue to live by them.

[Jerry]

Generally I agree with about 75% of what Milti says, I see no point in giving him a kicking over the other 25%.

Our stance against all things illegal is paramount as Cypriots seeking justice, for we cannot pick and choose which violations of international law are valid!

Surely there are less offensive ways of saying that other than :-

you’re just a selfish, racist, and gutless heap of shit, who only sees “sanctity of life” if they’re one of your own!

[Get Real!]

...having seen the children of India being sold to the Arabs , the children of Brazil being shot by police as if they were stray cats and dogs ,

Even if the things you brought up were as straightforward and as relevant as you're trying to pass off here, I can't see what Muslims have to do with the sins of India's 80% Hindus, or the sins of the predominant Catholics of Brazil!

Time to hit the bottle again...

[Get Real!]

Generally I agree with about 75% of what Milti says, I see no point in giving him a kicking over the other 25%.

Our stance against all things illegal is paramount as Cypriots seeking justice, for we cannot pick and choose which violations of international law are valid!

Surely there are less offensive ways of saying that other than :-

you’re just a selfish, racist, and gutless heap of shit, who only sees “sanctity of life” if they’re one of your own!

Honesty comes straight from the heart Jerry… and it’s not always pleasant!

[Talisker]

Over the last 7 and a half years I have have had the unenviable task of having to find my self in situations where demanding circumstances forced me to become disparagingly analytical of the medical profession and in particular the front troops as it were , nurses , Doctors on duty etc.
I can honestly say with first hand experience both here in the UK and in Limassol that the level of professionalism and care have been superb.
A small percentage of my personal experience was gained in Limassol at the Polyclinic but in particular the Doctor who looked after my wife , Dr Demitris , up to that time , about 5 years ago now , I knew very little of the true professionalism and dedication of the Cypriot medical professionals.

Last Friday , on visiting my wife at the Royal Marsden Hospital , I met a young Doctor who was so caring and so patient with my wife's persistent questioning I couldnt help admiring the way he handled some rather difficult questions from my wife who after fighting cancer for the last 7 and half year has become a hardened "" interrogator "" , her defence mechanism as I decided it is.
I looked at the name badge of the young doctor and wandered as to the origin of his name Dr.Panai .
He spoke fluent English without the slightest trace of an accent.
I couldnt help my curiosity and wanted to ask where his name originated from. Before I had a chance to do so he lowered his voice , turned to me and said , are You Greek Sir ? No I replied, I'm a G/C !!
Milate Ellinika he asked . But of course I replied !!
I saw Dr Panayioti on Saturday and Sunday.

Earlier on this evening on arriving at the hospital and entering my wife's room , a doctor was in attendance , before I could say anything he looked at me and said , Yia sou Yianni , your wife told me me about you , I'm Dr. Demetris !! Not the one from Cyprus I hasten to add , this Doctor came from Larissa !!

The moral of the story , thank God , even though he doesn't exist , for the West and our dedication to life and the sanctity of life , our commitment to taking care of the less fortunate amongst us , our dedication and perseverance in constantly researching in order to discover treatments to help alleviate decease and suffering , something that the father of medicine hundreds of years ago must have had in mind in devising the great medical oath .
To think that people blow themselves up causing death and horrific injuries , unimaginable.
Long Live The West !

What a succinct and perceptive post, Miltiades. Everyone knows that doctors and nurses outside the 'Western world' show no compassion or empathy with the patient. Only healthcare workers in The West have these qualities. And those nasty 'Third World' doctors refuse to use the most advanced treatments available in The West, always giving that pathetic excuse that apparently they can't afford it. They know nothing about dedication and perseverance. As for sanctity of life, people outside The West have no respect for this, and feel no remorse or grief when their patients or relatives die. The real moral of your story is that you have a deeply disturbed view of humanity.

Indeed I may have a disturbed view of humanity , having witnessed a live monkey having his brains eaten , having witnessed a live dog being skinned alive , and knowing that in some parts of the world the value of life is less than that of an alley cat , having seen the children of India being sold to the Arabs , the children of Brazil being shot by police as if they were stray cats and dogs , innocents being massacred by fanatics who blow themselves up , it is no wonder that I have so much admiration for our Western world .
Yes Sir , I'm proud of our values of life and long may we continue to live by them.

You need to get out more in the West. We ain't perfect ourselves. Haven't we just seen a thread on this very forum about killing of disabled children? Child prostitution, Baby P, paedophile rings, drug addiction, animal cruelty, poverty - we've got all this and more, and therefore not in a particularly strong position to preach.

[Floda]

Over the last 7 and a half years I have have had the unenviable task of having to find my self in situations where demanding circumstances forced me to become disparagingly analytical of the medical profession and in particular the front troops as it were , nurses , Doctors on duty etc.
I can honestly say with first hand experience both here in the UK and in Limassol that the level of professionalism and care have been superb.
A small percentage of my personal experience was gained in Limassol at the Polyclinic but in particular the Doctor who looked after my wife , Dr Demitris , up to that time , about 5 years ago now , I knew very little of the true professionalism and dedication of the Cypriot medical professionals.

Last Friday , on visiting my wife at the Royal Marsden Hospital , I met a young Doctor who was so caring and so patient with my wife's persistent questioning I couldnt help admiring the way he handled some rather difficult questions from my wife who after fighting cancer for the last 7 and half year has become a hardened "" interrogator "" , her defence mechanism as I decided it is.
I looked at the name badge of the young doctor and wandered as to the origin of his name Dr.Panai .
He spoke fluent English without the slightest trace of an accent.
I couldnt help my curiosity and wanted to ask where his name originated from. Before I had a chance to do so he lowered his voice , turned to me and said , are You Greek Sir ? No I replied, I'm a G/C !!
Milate Ellinika he asked . But of course I replied !!
I saw Dr Panayioti on Saturday and Sunday.

Earlier on this evening on arriving at the hospital and entering my wife's room , a doctor was in attendance , before I could say anything he looked at me and said , Yia sou Yianni , your wife told me me about you , I'm Dr. Demetris !! Not the one from Cyprus I hasten to add , this Doctor came from Larissa !!

The moral of the story , thank God , even though he doesn't exist , for the West and our dedication to life and the sanctity of life , our commitment to taking care of the less fortunate amongst us , our dedication and perseverance in constantly researching in order to discover treatments to help alleviate decease and suffering , something that the father of medicine hundreds of years ago must have had in mind in devising the great medical oath .
To think that people blow themselves up causing death and horrific injuries , unimaginable.
Long Live The West !

What a succinct and perceptive post, Miltiades. Everyone knows that doctors and nurses outside the 'Western world' show no compassion or empathy with the patient. Only healthcare workers in The West have these qualities. And those nasty 'Third World' doctors refuse to use the most advanced treatments available in The West, always giving that pathetic excuse that apparently they can't afford it. They know nothing about dedication and perseverance. As for sanctity of life, people outside The West have no respect for this, and feel no remorse or grief when their patients or relatives die. The real moral of your story is that you have a deeply disturbed view of humanity.

Indeed I may have a disturbed view of humanity , having witnessed a live monkey having his brains eaten , having witnessed a live dog being skinned alive , and knowing that in some parts of the world the value of life is less than that of an alley cat , having seen the children of India being sold to the Arabs , the children of Brazil being shot by police as if they were stray cats and dogs , innocents being massacred by fanatics who blow themselves up , it is no wonder that I have so much admiration for our Western world .
Yes Sir , I'm proud of our values of life and long may we continue to live by them.

You need to get out more in the West. We ain't perfect ourselves. Haven't we just seen a thread on this very forum about killing of disabled children? Child prostitution, Baby P, paedophile rings, drug addiction, animal cruelty, poverty - we've got all this and more, and therefore not in a particularly strong position to preach.

Talisker, I do wonder if the points you highlight above, could explain the reason for why so many other nations are so opposed (and therefore vigorously resist) the adoption of a 'Democratic' society.

Surely, if one wishes to introduce a new system of government to another nation, it should be demonstrably superior to the one that already exists. (IMHO).

[Floda]

Talisker, I do wonder if the points you highlight above, could explain the reason for why so many other nations are so opposed (and therefore vigorously resist) the adoption of a 'Democratic' society.

Surely, if one wishes to introduce a new system of government to another nation, it should be demonstrably superior to the one that already exists. (IMHO).

Plonker , why are you always so full of shit , have you no common sense , why are you so persistently posting crap. Grow up boy , girl or it whatever you are .[/quote]
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Miltiades, by what authority do you dismiss almost everything others may suggest as either 'Shit or 'Crap' (or some other equally inane and disgusting description) ?.

I do wonder if it ever occurs to you that the unquestioned adoption of YOUR suggestions would merely result in a forum of 'Miltiades's Clones' .

That which I have suggested to Talisker IS (IMHO) a perfectly reasonable observation to which the more discerning members of the forum will no doubt give some consideration, YOU, however, are ill-equipped to understand the significance of such comments since you have become so well Anglicized that the mere thought of any criticism of your chosen allies is bound to set you in a fury.

You cannot erase the past miltiades, nor all your protestations and insults will wipe the slate clean, you are a disgrace to MY country (Cyprus) and I am sure your presence and suggestions are of little value at your time of life.

Live out the remainder of your time as a 'Patriot' to the UK and those she is allied to (along with yourself), your past and present history is far more suited to such status than your whimpering, simpering and sycophantic attempts to establish yourself as 'Cypriot'.

Your constant personal insults and unwarranted attacks on other members is NOT appreciated I am sure, thankfully your usual diatribes of filth have become less frequent of late, NOT through respect I am sure, rather through the direct intervention of those who are entitled to order you to 'Curb your foul tongue', a sad indictment for a man of advancing years. (IMHO).

[miltiades]

Talisker, I do wonder if the points you highlight above, could explain the reason for why so many other nations are so opposed (and therefore vigorously resist) the adoption of a 'Democratic' society.

Surely, if one wishes to introduce a new system of government to another nation, it should be demonstrably superior to the one that already exists. (IMHO).

Plonker , why are you always so full of shit , have you no common sense , why are you so persistently posting crap. Grow up boy , girl or it whatever you are .

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Miltiades, by what authority do you dismiss almost everything others may suggest as either 'Shit or 'Crap' (or some other equally inane and disgusting description) ?.

I do wonder if it ever occurs to you that the unquestioned adoption of YOUR suggestions would merely result in a forum of 'Miltiades's Clones' .

That which I have suggested to Talisker IS (IMHO) a perfectly reasonable observation to which the more discerning members of the forum will no doubt give some consideration, YOU, however, are ill-equipped to understand the significance of such comments since you have become so well Anglicized that the mere thought of any criticism of your chosen allies is bound to set you in a fury.

You cannot erase the past miltiades, nor all your protestations and insults will wipe the slate clean, you are a disgrace to MY country (Cyprus) and I am sure your presence and suggestions are of little value at your time of life.

Live out the remainder of your time as a 'Patriot' to the UK and those she is allied to (along with yourself), your past and present history is far more suited to such status than your whimpering, simpering and sycophantic attempts to establish yourself as 'Cypriot'.

Your constant personal insults and unwarranted attacks on other members is NOT appreciated I am sure, thankfully your usual diatribes of filth have become less frequent of late, NOT through respect I am sure, rather through the direct intervention of those who are entitled to order you to 'Curb your foul tongue', a sad indictment for a man of advancing years. (IMHO). [/quote]
Floda , I do not tolerate either fools or stupid assertions. Yo epidomise both concepts.
You are utterly "illiterate " when it comes to logical conclusions on almost everything that you post. I dont tolerate your imbecility and here is an example.
"I do wonder if the points you highlight above, could explain the reason for why so many other nations are so opposed (and therefore vigorously resist) the adoption of a 'Democratic' society.""
You then go on to say:
""Surely, if one wishes to introduce a new system of government to another nation, it should be demonstrably superior to the one that already exists. (IMHO). [/quote] "


Do you realize that millions of people the world over have resisted totalitarian , dictatorial regimes , have spilt their blood so that we could live in a free and a democartic environment , who the hell are you to question democracy .
The primary rational of introducing democratic principles in third world dictatorial nations was firstly to avert the total surrender of civil order to terrorist crusaders and to nurture the nations infrastructure helping the rebuilding of a nation that would be of benefit to its citizens and able to take its place in the world.

I dont really want to bother with you at length , suffice to say that you made disparaging remarks about my departure from Cyprus as a 15 year old in 1961 , describing it as "desertion" .
Plonker dont you realize that most Cypriots emigrated to the UK or elsewhere for a better chance to make something of them selves not desert heir nation you stupid it !

[Talisker]

Over the last 7 and a half years I have have had the unenviable task of having to find my self in situations where demanding circumstances forced me to become disparagingly analytical of the medical profession and in particular the front troops as it were , nurses , Doctors on duty etc.
I can honestly say with first hand experience both here in the UK and in Limassol that the level of professionalism and care have been superb.
A small percentage of my personal experience was gained in Limassol at the Polyclinic but in particular the Doctor who looked after my wife , Dr Demitris , up to that time , about 5 years ago now , I knew very little of the true professionalism and dedication of the Cypriot medical professionals.

Last Friday , on visiting my wife at the Royal Marsden Hospital , I met a young Doctor who was so caring and so patient with my wife's persistent questioning I couldnt help admiring the way he handled some rather difficult questions from my wife who after fighting cancer for the last 7 and half year has become a hardened "" interrogator "" , her defence mechanism as I decided it is.
I looked at the name badge of the young doctor and wandered as to the origin of his name Dr.Panai .
He spoke fluent English without the slightest trace of an accent.
I couldnt help my curiosity and wanted to ask where his name originated from. Before I had a chance to do so he lowered his voice , turned to me and said , are You Greek Sir ? No I replied, I'm a G/C !!
Milate Ellinika he asked . But of course I replied !!
I saw Dr Panayioti on Saturday and Sunday.

Earlier on this evening on arriving at the hospital and entering my wife's room , a doctor was in attendance , before I could say anything he looked at me and said , Yia sou Yianni , your wife told me me about you , I'm Dr. Demetris !! Not the one from Cyprus I hasten to add , this Doctor came from Larissa !!

The moral of the story , thank God , even though he doesn't exist , for the West and our dedication to life and the sanctity of life , our commitment to taking care of the less fortunate amongst us , our dedication and perseverance in constantly researching in order to discover treatments to help alleviate decease and suffering , something that the father of medicine hundreds of years ago must have had in mind in devising the great medical oath .
To think that people blow themselves up causing death and horrific injuries , unimaginable.
Long Live The West !

What a succinct and perceptive post, Miltiades. Everyone knows that doctors and nurses outside the 'Western world' show no compassion or empathy with the patient. Only healthcare workers in The West have these qualities. And those nasty 'Third World' doctors refuse to use the most advanced treatments available in The West, always giving that pathetic excuse that apparently they can't afford it. They know nothing about dedication and perseverance. As for sanctity of life, people outside The West have no respect for this, and feel no remorse or grief when their patients or relatives die. The real moral of your story is that you have a deeply disturbed view of humanity.

Indeed I may have a disturbed view of humanity , having witnessed a live monkey having his brains eaten , having witnessed a live dog being skinned alive , and knowing that in some parts of the world the value of life is less than that of an alley cat , having seen the children of India being sold to the Arabs , the children of Brazil being shot by police as if they were stray cats and dogs , innocents being massacred by fanatics who blow themselves up , it is no wonder that I have so much admiration for our Western world .
Yes Sir , I'm proud of our values of life and long may we continue to live by them.

You need to get out more in the West. We ain't perfect ourselves. Haven't we just seen a thread on this very forum about killing of disabled children? Child prostitution, Baby P, paedophile rings, drug addiction, animal cruelty, poverty - we've got all this and more, and therefore not in a particularly strong position to preach.

Talisker, I do wonder if the points you highlight above, could explain the reason for why so many other nations are so opposed (and therefore vigorously resist) the adoption of a 'Democratic' society.

Surely, if one wishes to introduce a new system of government to another nation, it should be demonstrably superior to the one that already exists. (IMHO).

I'm sure there are many countries in the world where the desire for a good meal, health and happiness is greater than for democracy. Some of us don't appreciate how lucky we are..........and, if we do, should be careful not to gloat!

[Floda]

Do you realize that millions of people the world over have resisted totalitarian , dictatorial regimes , have spilt their blood so that we could live in a free and a democartic environment , who the hell are you to question democracy .
The primary rational of introducing democratic principles in third world dictatorial nations was firstly to avert the total surrender of civil order to terrorist crusaders and to nurture the nations infrastructure helping the rebuilding of a nation that would be of benefit to its citizens and able to take its place in the world.
!

And there was I thinking that OIL and other Mineral wealth could be the 'Primary Rationale' for the West's undying interest in the salvation of the suffering populations of the East (and elsewhere).

Your perceptions (or lack of them) are quite astounding miltiades. (IMHO).