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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:28 pm

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emma ruby wrote:! it is legal to get treated like this!! doesnt this guy have any rights!!!!!


emma ruby .... have you ever watched Midnight Express?



It seems you believe in fairy tales Oracle. I often give you more credit than this. Its not the first time you quoted the tale of 'Midnight Express' well knowing the lies in it.
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:32 pm

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paliometoxo wrote:a police officer in the north of cyprus??

countries like ukrain when the police stop u and shake u down for money....


That is utter crap my friend, if you want to spend the rest of your life in courts you are free to try and bribe a TC police.

Trust me, it does not work...

Turkey, however, is a whole new game.

The police here have a right to detain you for 24 hours with no charge if you are suspected of something, or if they just feel like being an asshole.

It has happened to me, I was being an ass and they stuffed me in a cell.

Just like mentioned above, no mattress, no pillows, no books, no nothing :lol:

He is not getting any "special treatment" that is just how the detainment cells are over here. :roll:



Are you saying, you had no TV, radio, Wii conjugal rights etc....that is terrible. :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:36 pm

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shahmaran wrote: ... It has happened to me, I was being an ass and they stuffed me in a cell. ..


Did you fall back on your tactic and call them racists? :lol:


I would've if they were being racist :D


That's never stopped you before! ..... Perhaps you were being racist because they were your own people .... and you did not wish to insult them with your tactic reserved for 'others'.


How can I claim that a TC is being "racist" towards me when I am also a TC ?


Perhaps they mistook you for a Settler! :D

So why are you surprised that I also feel the constant need to point out the bias and racism in your words?


What you claim to do and what in fact you accomplish are two different things. So far, you have only highlighted your hypocrisy.

There is fire so there is smoke dear Oracle :)


Not true ....
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Postby Oracle » Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:37 pm

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emma ruby wrote:! it is legal to get treated like this!! doesnt this guy have any rights!!!!!


emma ruby .... have you ever watched Midnight Express?



It seems you believe in fairy tales Oracle. I often give you more credit than this. Its not the first time you quoted the tale of 'Midnight Express' well knowing the lies in it.


What part of it was not true which can alter the material substance of the theme?
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:43 pm

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emma ruby wrote:! it is legal to get treated like this!! doesnt this guy have any rights!!!!!


emma ruby .... have you ever watched Midnight Express?



It seems you believe in fairy tales Oracle. I often give you more credit than this. Its not the first time you quoted the tale of 'Midnight Express' well knowing the lies in it.


What part of it was not true which can alter the material substance of the theme?



The guy later admitted in an interview that what was portrayed in the film was not 100% true. I need to do some digging up the info - providing I know where to look.
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:47 pm

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077928/trivia


Check the first para for a start. You might get a clue.
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Postby Oracle » Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:51 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
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emma ruby wrote:! it is legal to get treated like this!! doesnt this guy have any rights!!!!!


emma ruby .... have you ever watched Midnight Express?



It seems you believe in fairy tales Oracle. I often give you more credit than this. Its not the first time you quoted the tale of 'Midnight Express' well knowing the lies in it.


What part of it was not true which can alter the material substance of the theme?



The guy later admitted in an interview that what was portrayed in the film was not 100% true. I need to do some digging up the info - providing I know where to look.


No one claimed it was 100% true. That doesn't mean it wasn't very close to the truth of what the Turkish penal system is like (but I agree it may be even worse!). But, the Midnight Express theme was applicable in the context of such material deprivation as Lana portrayed.
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Postby Svetlana » Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:25 pm

....erm... back on topic; the guy concerned was released without Charge yesterday ('Crimping in the First Degree?) but he and his family are heading 'home'.

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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:57 pm

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
emma ruby wrote:! it is legal to get treated like this!! doesnt this guy have any rights!!!!!


emma ruby .... have you ever watched Midnight Express?



It seems you believe in fairy tales Oracle. I often give you more credit than this. Its not the first time you quoted the tale of 'Midnight Express' well knowing the lies in it.


What part of it was not true which can alter the material substance of the theme?



The guy later admitted in an interview that what was portrayed in the film was not 100% true. I need to do some digging up the info - providing I know where to look.


No one claimed it was 100% true. That doesn't mean it wasn't very close to the truth of what the Turkish penal system is like (but I agree it may be even worse!). But, the Midnight Express theme was applicable in the context of such material deprivation as Lana portrayed.



Someone of your caliber should not use Hollywood as evidence. For someone who has done so much research should not stoop........

Dont do it again Oracle.

As to the penal system, I am not an advocate of the soft touch for criminals.......of any kind. If I am ever guilty I will take my punishment and not whinge like that prat.
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Postby Oracle » Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:39 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
emma ruby wrote:! it is legal to get treated like this!! doesnt this guy have any rights!!!!!


emma ruby .... have you ever watched Midnight Express?



It seems you believe in fairy tales Oracle. I often give you more credit than this. Its not the first time you quoted the tale of 'Midnight Express' well knowing the lies in it.


What part of it was not true which can alter the material substance of the theme?



The guy later admitted in an interview that what was portrayed in the film was not 100% true. I need to do some digging up the info - providing I know where to look.


No one claimed it was 100% true. That doesn't mean it wasn't very close to the truth of what the Turkish penal system is like (but I agree it may be even worse!). But, the Midnight Express theme was applicable in the context of such material deprivation as Lana portrayed.



Someone of your caliber should not use Hollywood as evidence. For someone who has done so much research should not stoop........

Dont do it again Oracle.

As to the penal system, I am not an advocate of the soft touch for criminals.......of any kind. If I am ever guilty I will take my punishment and not whinge like that prat.


If a dog has done a poo ... that is what you show it as evidence for its mistake!

The evidence has to be of a "calibre" to fit the understanding of the subject you wish to enlighten ...

The Midnight Express as a pointer to Turkish prisons was for emma ruby and, as such, was appropriate .... instead of something more cognitively demanding.

Of course, there is a huge corpus from Amnesty International etc which shows the Turkish Penal system is even worse than that depicted by Hollywood .... but you don't want me raking that up and spoiling Lana's lovely thread, now do you?
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