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Cyprus - Getting it Wrong, Martin Packard MBE

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Postby BigDutch » Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:08 pm

I don't discount the commercial aspect, a real whistleblower perhaps would have used something else (eg wikileaks) to distribute a report.

The article Gasman linked to has an aspect of he said, she said in it, i guess that in itself could call into question the validity of the rest of the book. As to Packards real role as that of spy/intelligence, what British documents is Fanoulla Argyrou referencing ? In British Treason II it appears to support Packard by using his article to promote the British sabotage of bi-communal agreement then in British Treason III suggests his role wasn't as peacemaker at all. Very odd.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:32 pm

BigDutch wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Well, I’d rather read the official UN reports of that period
Get Real! wrote:If what you’re looking for is… “All the documents ever written by UNFICYP between the years 1964 and 1994” that is NOT how a sensible person goes about researching any part of the Cyprus problem.
:?:

You discredited Packards accounts saying go for the official sources but are now telling me it is not sensible looking for the official docs ? Confused

If there’s an event worth reading about that occurred on Cyprus from March 1964 onwards, then no doubt you’ll find a corresponding UNFICYP report on the incident, which you can EASILY track down via the UN document search tools I’ve given, provided you can provide a relevant keyword or two.

However, if you’re interested in an ex-serviceman’s adventures and point of view then go ahead and read this chap's writings. I for one am not interested.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:38 pm

Gasman wrote:GR - can't you just post a link to the RELEVANT UN docs you are hoping BigDutch will read?

I'd be happy to if only he (and I) knew WHAT he wanted to read about because an answer like "everything" is a stupid answer.

You place heavy reliance on the UN and their resolutions. Can't think why. Most people seem to think they are useless.

I place heavy reliance on CREDIBLE AUTHORITIES which include but are not limited to the UN...

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... eLinks.htm
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Postby BigDutch » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:15 pm

Bit of a dead end here then. I suggest the reports aren't online.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:08 pm

BigDutch wrote:Bit of a dead end here then. I suggest the reports aren't online.

Reports on what exactly?
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Postby insan » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:13 pm

BigDutch wrote:Bit of a dead end here then. I suggest the reports aren't online.


http://www.securitycouncilreport.org/si ... b.2699949/

Revised 28 October 2010

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Selected Security Council Resolutions

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S/RES/1930 (15 June 2010) extended UNFICYP’s mandate for six months.
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S/RES/1898 (14 December 2009) renewed UNFICYP’s mandate until 15 June 2010.
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S/RES/1873 (29 May 2009) extended UNFICYP's mandate until 15 December 2009.
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S/RES/1847 (12 December 2008) extended UNFICYP’s mandate until 15 June 2009.
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S/RES/1818 (13 June 2008) welcomed the Secretary-General’s analysis of recent developments, urging the parties to continue to work so full fledged negotiations can begin expeditiously and renewing the UNFICYP mandate until 15 December 2008.
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S/RES/1789 (14 December 2007) extended the mandate of UNFICYP until 15 June 2008.
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S/RES/1758 (15 June 2007) extended the mandate of UNFICYP until 15 December 2007.
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S/RES/1728 (15 December 2006) extended the mandate of UNFICYP until 15 June 2007 and called for the completion of a preparatory phase for a good offices process.
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S/RES/1687 (15 June 2006) extended the mandate of UNFICYP until 15 December 2006.
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S/RES/1642 (14 December 2005) extended the mandate of UNFICYP until 15 June 2006.
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S/RES/1604 (15 June 2005) extended the mandate of UNFICYP until 15 December 2005.
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S/RES/1568 (22 October 2004) endorsed the recommended changes to the concept of operations and force level of UNFICYP.
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S/RES/1548 (11 June 2004) welcomed the Secretary-General's intention to conduct a review of the UNFICYP mandate.
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S/RES/1475 (14 April 2003) gave its full support to the Secretary-General’s second revision of his plan to reach a comprehensive settlement.
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S/RES/1251 (29 June 1999) expressed concern about the military build-up on both sides.
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S/RES/1250 (26 June 1999) called upon the two leaders to resume negotiations under the auspices of the Secretary-General and committing to a set of principles.
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S/RES/1217 (22 December 1998) welcomed the establishment of a civil affairs branch for UNFICYP.
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S/RES/939 (29 July 1994) requested the Secretary-General to start consultations.
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S/RES/839 (11 June 1993) endorsed the package of confidence-building measures.
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S/RES/831 (27 May 1993) changed the method of financing for UNFICYP and decided that UNFICYP’s costs not covered by voluntary contributions should be financed by member states through assessed contributions, and restructured the composition of the force.
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S/RES/750 (10 April 1992) endorsed the Secretary-General’s “Set of Ideas”.
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S/RES/716 (11 October 1991) reaffirmed that its position on the solution to the Cyprus problem is based on one state of Cyprus comprising two politically equal communities as defined by the Secretary-General in his 8 March 1990 report.
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S/RES/649 (12 March 1990) for the first time provided a detailed framework for the negotiations: called upon the leaders of the two communities to pursue their efforts to reach a solution providing for the establishment of a federation that would be bi-communal as regards the constitutional aspects and bi-zonal as regards the territorial aspects in line with the 1977 and 1979 agreements and to cooperate on an equal footing with the Secretary-General.
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S/RES/585 (13 June 1986) took note of the Draft Framework Agreement.
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S/RES/550 (11 May 1984) further condemned Northern Cyprus.
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S/RES/541 (18 November 1983) invalidated the creation of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.
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S/RES/451 (15 June 1979) urged the parties to proceed with inter-communal talks within the framework of the 19 May High Level agreement.
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S/RES/410 (15 June 1977) emphasised the need for the parties to adhere to the High Level agreement reached on 12 February 1977.
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S/RES/367 (12 March 1975) regretted the unilateral decision to create a “Federated Turkish State” and stated that it would not prejudge the final political settlement of the problem of Cyprus.
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S/RES/365 (13 December 1974) endorsed General Assembly resolution 3212 (XXIX).
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S/RES/361 (30 August 1974) expressed grave concern at the plight of refugees, urged the parties concerned to search for peaceful solutions, requested the Secretary-General to submit a report on the situation of the refugees and decided to keep that situation under constant review.
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S/RES/360 (16 August 1974) urged the parties to resume negotiations “whose outcome should not be impeded or prejudged by the acquisition of advantages resulting from military operations.”
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S/RES/359 (15 August 1974) deplored the killing and wounding of UNFICYP personnel “as a direct result of the military action which is still continuing in Cyprus”.
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S/RES/353 (20 July 1974) called on all parties to cease firing, demanded an immediate end to the foreign military intervention in Cyprus and withdrawal of troops and called upon all states to respect the sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of Cyprus.
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S/RES/244 (22 December 1967) extended UNFICYP’s mandate and noted the Secretary-General’s report recommending including the supervision of disarmament and arrangements to safeguard internal security in the mandate.
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S/RES/193 (9 August 1964) called upon all parties to cease firing and called on Turkey to stop the bombardments and on the Cypriot government to order its armed forces to cease firing.
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S/RES/186 (4 March 1964) established UNFICYP.

Vetoed Draft Resolutions

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S/2004/313 (21 April 2004) established a new UN mission in Cyprus to monitor the implementation of the Foundation Agreement and provide a secure environment, and established an arms embargo on Cyprus. This was vetoed by Russia. In S/PV.4947 statements were made by Council members before and after the vote.
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S/25693 (29 April 1993) was a draft resolution vetoed by Russia changing UNFICYP’s methods of financing and S/PV.3211.
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S/11400/Rev.1 (31 July 1974) requested the Secretary-General to take appropriate action in the light of a statement he made regarding the role, functions and strength of UNFICYP and related issues arising out of the most recent political developments in respect of Cyprus. It was vetoed by Russia. The same draft was later adopted adding a request to the Secretary-General to present a full report in the light of his statement and a consideration that the cease-fire would be a first step in implementation of resolution 353.

Selected Presidential Statements

* S/PRST/2009/10 (30 April 2009) welcomed progress in the negotiations, urged the parties to increase the momentum and looked forward to decisive progress in the near future.
* S/PRST/2008/34 (4 September 2008) confirmed the Council’s readiness to support the negotiating process between the leaders of the Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot communities and welcomed the appointment of Alexander Downer as the Secretary-General’s Special Advisor.
* S/PRST/2008/9 (15 April 2008) The Council warmly welcomed the agreement reached on 21 March between the two leaders to resume negotiations as well as the opening of the Ledra street crossing, reaffirmed its commitment to the reunification of Cyprus based on a bicommunal, bizonal federation and political equality and called for more confidence-building measures.

Selected Secretary-General's Reports

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S/2010/264 (28 May 2010) was the latest report on UNFICYP.
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S/2010/238 (11 May 2010) was a report on the Secretary-General's good offices mission in Cyprus.
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S/2009/610 (30 November 2009) was a report on the Secretary-General's good offices mission in Cyprus.
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S/2009/609 (25 November 2009) was a report on UNFICYP.
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S/2009/248 (15 May 2009) was a report on Cyprus.
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S/2008/744 (28 November 2008) was a report on Cyprus.
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S/2008/353 (2 June 2008) was a report on Cyprus.
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S/2004/756 (24 September 2004) recommended the “Force 860” new concept of operations reducing UNFICYP's number of military troops to 860 from 1,300.
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S/2007/699 (14 December 2007) was a report on Cyprus that recommended a six month extension of UNFICYP.
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S/2007/328 (4 June 2007) was a report on Cyprus.
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S/2006/931 (1 December 2006) was a report on Cyprus.
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S/2006/315 (23 May 2006) recommended a six-month extension of UNFICYP and urged the parties to resume contact.
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S/2005/743 (29 November 2005) and corr.1 (8 December 2005) recommended that the Council extend the mandate of UNFICYP until 15 June 2006.
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S/2005/353 (27 May 2005)
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S/2004/756 (24 September 2004) recommended a review of the mandate, force levels and concept of operations of UNFICYP.
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S/2004/437 (28 May 2004) was the last report on the mission of good offices in Cyprus deploring the rejection of the Foundation Agreement and calling all states to eliminate unnecessary restrictions isolating the Turkish Cypriots.
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S/2004/427 (26 May 2004)
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S/2004/302 (16 April 2004) provided explanations on the Foundation Agreement and recommend its endorsement.
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S/2003/398 (1 April 2003)
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S/26026 (1 July 1993) contained a package of confidence-building measures.
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S/25492 (30 March 1993) warned that as a result of reductions by troop contributors in the size of their contingents, UNFICYP’s strength had been reduced from 2,141 in May 1992 to 1,513 in March 1993, and additional reductions would make UNFICYP unviable.
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S/23780 (3 April 1992) outlined the “Set of Ideas on an overall framework agreement on Cyprus”.
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S/21183 (8 March 1990) recognised and defined the concept of political equality.
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S/18102/ADD.1 (11 June 1986) contained the Draft Framework Agreement.
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S/13369 (31 May 1979) contained the agreement reached between the two leaders on 18 and 19 May 1979.
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S/12323 (30 April 1977) contained the 12 February agreement between the two leaders.
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S/8286 (8 December 1967) recommended enlarging the mandate of UNFICYP so as to include supervision of disarmament and arrangements to safeguard internal security.
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S/6253 (26 March 1965) laid down the first observations on the future course of mediation.
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S/5950 (10 September 1964) recognised that the presence of UNFICYP in Cyprus was a major factor in bringing the fighting in some areas to an end, and in preventing some incidents from escalating. The report also pointed out that a “return to normal conditions" as mentioned in Council resolution 186 does not mean, as the Turkish Cypriots believe, a complete restoration of the constitutional situation in Cyprus as it was before the fighting broke out in December 1963.
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S/5764 (15 June 1964) was the first UNFICYP report noting that preventing the recurrence of fighting had been accomplished.
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S/5653 (11 April 1964) was a note by the Secretary-General clarifying the UNFICYP mandate.

Selected Letters

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S/2010/540 (13 October 2010) was a letter from Turkey to the Secretary-General transmitting a letter from the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus refuting Cyprus’s allegations of violations of international air traffic regulations and national airspace of Cyprus.
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S/2010/363 (6 July 2010) and S/2010/502 (30 September 2010) were letters from Cyprus to the Secretary-General drawing attention to alleged violations of the international air traffic regulations and national airspace of Cyprus by Turkish military aircraft.
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S/2010/260 (27 May 2010) and S/2010/261 (28 May 2010) was an exchange of letters between the Secretary-General and the Council on the appointment of Lisa Buttenheim (US) as the Secretary-General's new Special Representative in Cyprus and head of UNFICYP.
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S/2010/227 (29 April 2010), S/2010/114 (26 February 2010) and S/2010/60 (30 December 2009) were letters from Turkey to the Secretary-General transmitting letters from the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus refuting Cyprus’s allegations of violations of international air traffic regulations and national airspace of Cyprus.
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S/2010/196 (15 April 2010), S/2010/92 (17 February 2010) and S/2009/668 (18 December 2009) were letters from Cyprus to the Secretary-General drawing attention to alleged violations of the international air traffic regulations and national airspace of Cyprus by Turkish military aircraft.
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S/2009/581 (10 November 2009) was a request from Turkey to the Secretary-General that a letter from Talat responding to Christofias’s statement to the General Assembly on 24 September be circulated as an official UN document.
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S/2009/543 (19 October 2009) was a letter from Turkey to the Secretary-General transmitting a letter from the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus refuting Cyprus’s allegations of violations of international air traffic regulations and national airspace of Cyprus.
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S/2009/529 (9 October 2009) was a letter from Cyprus to the Secretary-General drawing attention to alleged violations of the international air traffic regulations and national airspace of Cyprus by Turkish military aircraft.
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S/2008/456 and S/2008/457 (14 July 2008) was an exchange of letters between the Secretary-General and the Council on the appointment of Alexander Downer as Special Adviser on Cyprus.
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S/2008/353 (2 June 2008) was the report from the Secretary-General on UNFICYP.
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S/2008/246 and S/2008/247 (14 April 2008) was an exchange of letters on the appointment of Rear Admiral Mario Sanchez Debernardi as UNFICYP’s Force Commander.
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S/2008/244 and S/2008/245 (14 April 2008) was an exchange of letters on the appointment of Tayé-Brook Zerihoun as Special Representative in Cyprus and Head of UNFICYP.
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S/2007/649 (1 October 2007) was a letter from the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC) reacting to President Papadopoulos’ speech to the General Assembly high-level debate on 26 September.
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S/2007/625(19 October 2007) was a letter from the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC) transmitting proposals for confidence-building measures.
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S/2006/572 (25 July 2006) was the letter from the Secretary-General transmitting the "Set of Principles" and "Decision by the two leaders."
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S/2006/533 (14 July 2006) was the letter from Turkey transmitting a letter from the Turkish Cypriot leader containing proposals towards a solution for Cyprus.
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S/2006/410 (14 June 2006) was the letter from the Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister of the "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus" clarifying and elaborating on references in the Secretary-General's 23 May 2006 report on UNFICYP.
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S/2006/300 (15 May 2006) was the letter from Cyprus explaining the views of Greek Cypriot President Tassos Papadopoulos.
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S/2006/286 (9 May 2006) was the letter from Turkey transmitting a letter from the Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat, criticising the Greek Cypriot leader Tassos Papadopoulos for opposing a bizonal and bicommunal solution to the Cyprus conflict.
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S/2006/91 (6 February 2006) was the letter from the Secretary-General appointing Major General Rafael José Barni of Argentina as Force Commander of UNFICYP.
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S/2006/72 (2 February 2006) was the letter from Turkey transmitting a letter from the Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat expressing his full support to the action plan announced by Turkey.
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S/2006/82 (31 January 2006) was the letter from Cyprus rejecting the Turkish plan.
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S/2006/48 (24 January 2006) was the letter from Turkey presenting an "action plan on lifting of restrictions in Cyprus."
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S/25647 (26 April 1993) was a letter from Cyprus offering to contribute one-third of UNFICYP’s annual budget.
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S/11398 (30 July 1974) was a letter enclosing a declaration by the foreign ministers of Greece, Turkey and the UK in which they agreed that all Turkish enclaves occupied by Greek or Greek Cypriot forces would be evacuated and protected by UNFICYP, and affirmed that the timely and phased reduction of armed forces and armament in Cyprus would take place within the framework of a just and lasting solution acceptable to all the parties.
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S/5488 (26 December 1963) was a letter of complaint from Cyprus against Turkey for acts of aggression and intervention in the internal affairs of Cyprus.

Selected Press Statement

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SC/8820 (29 August 2006) expressed support for the Secretary-General's efforts aimed at reaching a comprehensive settlement of the Cyprus problem, welcomed the agreement reached on 8 July 2006 and called for its full implementation without further delay.

Selected General Assembly Resolutions

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37/253 (13 May 1983) expressed support for the inter-communal talks and 1977-1979 agreements, considered the withdrawal of all occupation forces from the Republic of Cyprus as an essential basis for the solution of the problem and called for the respect of freedom of settlement and right to property.
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33/15 (9 November 1978) recommended the Council to adopt “all appropriate and practical measures under the Charter” for ensuring the implementation of resolutions on Cyprus, “within a time frame.”
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32/128 (16 December 1977) requested the establishment of an investigatory body with the participation of the Red Cross to speedily resolve the issue of missing persons in Cyprus.
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32/15 (9 November 1977) recommended that the Council keep the question of Cyprus under constant review and promote the implementation of its resolutions.
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3212 (XXIX) (1 November 1974) called for the withdrawal of foreign troops, considered that the constitutional system concerned Greek and Turkish Cypriots, called upon the parties to take urgent measures for the return of refugees and requested the Secretary-General to continue his good offices.
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2077 (XX) (18 December 1965) called upon states to respect the sovereignty, unity independence and territorial integrity of Cyprus.
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1287 (XIII) (5 December 1958) expressed its confidence that continued efforts will be made by the parties to reach a peaceful, democratic and just solution.
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814 (IX) (17 December 1954) considered inappropriate for the time being to adopt a resolution on the question of Cyprus.

Other

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S/PV.6339 (15 June 2010) was the meeting record of the Council's adoption of resolution 1930.
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S/PV.6239 (14 December 2009) was the meeting record of the Council's adoption of resolution 1898.
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S/PV.6132 (29 May 2009) was the meeting record of the Council’s adoption of resolution 1873 with Turkey’s explanation of vote.
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S/PV.6126 (22 May 2009) was the Council's meeting with countries contributing troops to UNFICYP.
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S/PV.6032 (5 December 2008) was a briefing by the Special Representative of the Secretary-General in Cyprus Tayé-Brook Zerihoun to the Council.
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S/PV.5211 (22 June 2005) was a briefing to the Council by Kieran Prendergast on the status of the negotiation process in Cyprus.
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4 (XXXI) (13 February 1975) was a resolution from the Commission on Human Rights calling for the intensification of efforts aimed at tracing and accounting for missing persons.

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Postby Get Real! » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:18 pm

Thanks for the good link Insan... :D
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Postby BigDutch » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:32 pm

Get Real! wrote:Reports on what exactly?
Whichever ones you mentioned earlier !!! .....
Get Real! wrote:Well, I’d rather read the official UN reports of that period


Thanks Insan, I can see a few older items in the list, whether they will cover the period of Packards book and thus be legitimate sources on events that 'Get Real!' has suggested should be used we shall see !
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Postby insan » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:42 pm

The Turkish-Cypriot Con~~nitg
70. The point of departure of the attitude of the representatives Of the
Turkish-Cypriot community, as reiterated on many occasions during the first phase of mediation, and as formally stated in a memorandum submitted by the Vice-President of the Republic, Dr. Fasil Ktichiik, was that their greatest concern was the security of life and xlroperty of a people who were not a mere minority but a distinct corn&unity in their own right. From this viewpoint they did not object to the existing Constitution as such, bwt rather to the way in which it had been, in their opinion, misapplied by the representatives of the Greek-Cypriot
community.
71. They claimed that the recent events had proved that the various contractual and actual guarantees provided in the past were insufficient to meet the,needs of their community for security. Additional and more effective guarantees uust therefore be secured.
72. The additional guarantees, they maintained, could best be obtained by providing a geographical basis for the state of affairs created by the Zurich and London Rg:reements. In short, they wished to be physically separated from the Greek cornrunity. Their first inclination had been to seek this separation through the outright physical partitioning of Cyprus between the Turkish and Greek nations, of which in their opinion the Turkish and Greek communities constituted an extension.
However, "considering that this would not be willingly agreed to by Greek and Cypriot-Greeks", they modified this concept to that of creating a federal State over the physical separation of the two communities.
73. Their proposal envisaged a compulsory exchange of population in order to bring about a state of affairs in which each coIlimunity would occupy a separate part of the island. The dividing line was in fact suggested: to TU-I from the village of Yalia on the north+estern coast through the towns of Nicosia in the centre, and Famagusta in the east. The zone lying north of this line was claimed by the Turkish-Cypriot community; it is said to have &I? area of about 1,084 square
miles or 38 per cent of the to~tal area of the Republic. An exchange of about 10,000 Greek families for abcxt the same number of Turkish families was contemplated.
“/...
S/6253
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Page 27
74. Each of the two separate communal areas would enjoy self-government in all matters falling outside federal affairs. Each could have cultural and economio relations directly with Greece or Turkey as the case might be. Each area could also enter into international agreements with Greece or Turkey as the case might be to regulate "relations of neighbourhood such as the provision of a certain special pass system" between that area and Greece or Turkey.

75 . To the federal authorities would be reserved the subjects of foreign affairs, defence, the federal budget, customs; commerce, banking,currency, standards of measurement, nationality, passport matters, post and telecommunications services and criminal legislation and jurisdiction. The federal legislature would consj.st of a House of Representatives composed of 30 per cent Turkish and 70 per cent
Greek corinity representatives ., and a Senate divided equally between the two.
The federal President and Vice-President would be elected by the Greek and Turkish corruunities respectively. The 30-70 ratio would be maintained for the Council of Ministers and the Public Service, and the 40-60 ratio for a small federal army and a police force for customs, traffic and tourist affairs.
76. Among other general principles reflecting those of the existing Constitution, the union of the Fec'cral Republic with another State, or the partitioning of the i.sland, wo,ui.d br :r,x,!libited under national and international undertakings. The provisiws of .i,‘izi: 'Yreaties of ALLiance and Guarantee would continue to form an i.nteg:l'al pn,;,i I;? the Constitution.
77


From the Galo Plaza report, dated 1965.

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Postby insan » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:48 pm

Get Real! wrote:Thanks for the good link Insan... :D


For me it's very easy to find anything exists in the huge online world wide web. :D

... even the pre-releases... 8) :wink:
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