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To be honest, I never truly understood the fuss about controlling Cyprus and what makes her so important to others.

You've obviously never had mahalepi then.

[Nikitas]

Shah said: "To be honest, I never truly understood the fuss about controlling Cyprus and what makes her so important to others."

Precisely! Even Grivas understood the myth of the "unsinkable air craft carrier" and notes how forces on the island are vulnerable to air attack and naval blockade and the island is not a worthwhile base.

Historically the island did not prove of any value in any of the major conflicts. Neither in WWI or WWII was it a major base. Malta was more important and the center of fierce contests between the allies and the axis powers. Cyprus got no action which explains why 40 000 Cypriot vounteers were taken to Egypt to fight the Germans.

In Suez the French and the British used Cyprus as a staging post to attack Egypt and lost when the USA told them to bugger off.

The US 6th fleet has more firepower in one carrier and its support group than the whole of Turkey and Israel combined. As one officer of the Saratoga said "I can press a button and put a missile through any building window I choose in a radious of 2000 miles". Since the advent of accurate cruise missiles the whole theory of bases as security points is nonsense.

Satellite born intelligence makes the signals capability of Dhekelia look like tin cans with string we used as telephones when we were kids.

But do not understimate the psychosis of modern day generals. Turkish generals speak to this day about Cyprus being near the "soft underbelly of Turkey", as if the north coast is the hard head and the Aegean their vulnerable ass. These guys went to military schools and that makes you wonder what they teach there.

In this "base psychosis" the only thing that seems to make sense would be the provision of a permanent anchorage and refuelling port for the Russian fleet. But they already moor in international waters off the island of Kythira and they refuel in several ports in the Mediterranean, so they might want Cyprus but they definitely do not need it.

[Get Real!]

To be honest, I never truly understood the fuss about controlling Cyprus and what makes her so important to others.

I keep telling you guys... Cyprus is the center of the universe so who would want to be in some dark dilapidated edge starring at the center?

[zan]

Shah said: "To be honest, I never truly understood the fuss about controlling Cyprus and what makes her so important to others."

Precisely! Even Grivas understood the myth of the "unsinkable air craft carrier" and notes how forces on the island are vulnerable to air attack and naval blockade and the island is not a worthwhile base.

Historically the island did not prove of any value in any of the major conflicts. Neither in WWI or WWII was it a major base. Malta was more important and the center of fierce contests between the allies and the axis powers. Cyprus got no action which explains why 40 000 Cypriot vounteers were taken to Egypt to fight the Germans.

In Suez the French and the British used Cyprus as a staging post to attack Egypt and lost when the USA told them to bugger off.

The US 6th fleet has more firepower in one carrier and its support group than the whole of Turkey and Israel combined. As one officer of the Saratoga said "I can press a button and put a missile through any building window I choose in a radious of 2000 miles". Since the advent of accurate cruise missiles the whole theory of bases as security points is nonsense.

Satellite born intelligence makes the signals capability of Dhekelia look like tin cans with string we used as telephones when we were kids.

But do not understimate the psychosis of modern day generals. Turkish generals speak to this day about Cyprus being near the "soft underbelly of Turkey", as if the north coast is the hard head and the Aegean their vulnerable ass. These guys went to military schools and that makes you wonder what they teach there.

In this "base psychosis" the only thing that seems to make sense would be the provision of a permanent anchorage and refuelling port for the Russian fleet. But they already moor in international waters off the island of Kythira and they refuel in several ports in the Mediterranean, so they might want Cyprus but they definitely do not need it.

Great if they are playing cards and drinking coffee at the time but what happens after......You need troops on the ground and a supply route..

[shahmaran]

To be honest, I never truly understood the fuss about controlling Cyprus and what makes her so important to others.

You've obviously never had mahalepi then.

You mean muhallebi?

Flower water (çiçek suyu) literally disgusts me, I cant even go near someone who is eating it!

[Get Real!]

To be honest, I never truly understood the fuss about controlling Cyprus and what makes her so important to others.

You've obviously never had mahalepi then.

You mean muhallebi?

Flower water (çiçek suyu) literally disgusts me, I cant even go near someone who is eating it!

My grandpa used to sell it in Tahdagala, on a homemade wheelie thingy for a couple of bakkires p/plate!

[shahmaran]

To be honest, I never truly understood the fuss about controlling Cyprus and what makes her so important to others.

You've obviously never had mahalepi then.

You mean muhallebi?

Flower water (çiçek suyu) literally disgusts me, I cant even go near someone who is eating it!

My grandpa used to sell it in Tahdagala, on a homemade wheelie thingy for a couple of bakkires p/plate!

Is that Tahtakale?

I truly hate the stuff, reminds me of ugly religious idiots with huge beards and towels wrapped on their head!

[zan]

To be honest, I never truly understood the fuss about controlling Cyprus and what makes her so important to others.

You've obviously never had mahalepi then.

You mean muhallebi?

Flower water (çiçek suyu) literally disgusts me, I cant even go near someone who is eating it!

My grandpa used to sell it in Tahdagala, on a homemade wheelie thingy for a couple of bakkires p/plate!

Is that Tahtakale?

I truly hate the stuff, reminds me of ugly religious idiots with huge beards and towels wrapped on their head!

Man that must have been some first experience


I love the stuff. Ice cold in summer with plenty of red rose water. My brother inlaws father used to sell it in Kucuk Kaymakli. I believe they had a piece about him in the TC papers as a local attraction...Gone now

[shahmaran]

To be honest, I never truly understood the fuss about controlling Cyprus and what makes her so important to others.

You've obviously never had mahalepi then.

You mean muhallebi?

Flower water (çiçek suyu) literally disgusts me, I cant even go near someone who is eating it!

My grandpa used to sell it in Tahdagala, on a homemade wheelie thingy for a couple of bakkires p/plate!

Is that Tahtakale?

I truly hate the stuff, reminds me of ugly religious idiots with huge beards and towels wrapped on their head!

Man that must have been some first experience


I love the stuff. Ice cold in summer with plenty of red rose water. My brother inlaws father used to sell it in Kucuk Kaymakli. I believe they had a piece about him in the TC papers as a local attraction...Gone now

Oh god gül suyu, that's worse than çiçek suyu!

But its a new thing, when I was a little kid I used to have to hang out with my grandpa around the kahve where I drank ice cold gül suyu and loved it.

But now, that and molehiya, I can't stand it, I don't know why, when I smell them I literally run out of breath.

[zan]

To be honest, I never truly understood the fuss about controlling Cyprus and what makes her so important to others.

You've obviously never had mahalepi then.

You mean muhallebi?

Flower water (çiçek suyu) literally disgusts me, I cant even go near someone who is eating it!

My grandpa used to sell it in Tahdagala, on a homemade wheelie thingy for a couple of bakkires p/plate!

Is that Tahtakale?

I truly hate the stuff, reminds me of ugly religious idiots with huge beards and towels wrapped on their head!

Man that must have been some first experience


I love the stuff. Ice cold in summer with plenty of red rose water. My brother inlaws father used to sell it in Kucuk Kaymakli. I believe they had a piece about him in the TC papers as a local attraction...Gone now

Oh god gül suyu, that's worse than çiçek suyu!

But its a new thing, when I was a little kid I used to have to hang out with my grandpa around the kahve where I drank ice cold gül suyu and loved it.

But now, that and molehiya, I can't stand it, I don't know why, when I smell them I literally run out of breath.

I don't know if I am just imagining things but I am sure the taste of chocolate, like Kitkat, has changed.....I am sure I can taste rose water...


I love molehiya as well as the muhalebi and it leaves me breathless as well......From running to the toilet for he next couple of days