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Cyprus - Getting it Wrong, Martin Packard MBE

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Postby Dr J » Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:39 pm

Martin Packard said that, some others said the otherwise... Why shall we believe Martin Packard and not believe to others? To exculpate Makarios and put the blame on others?


LOL - So you believe the parts Martin Packard said that suit Turkish propaganda and not the parts that don't?????
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Postby shahmaran » Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:51 pm

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Oracle wrote:Seems we now have another piece of the puzzle. Further proof that the idiots in this game have been the TCs who failed to resist being party to NATO games ...

As the party-faithful to Cyprus and Makarios, the GCs deserve to have their country back and the TCs to say sorry, remove the troops+settlers and trust us more in future!


How the hell did you conclude that?!


Well, look around you .... see what you allowed to be done!

Only the CNG, Makarios and the majority of GCs tried to resist the endgame, in 1974 ...


Could that be because the TC's believed you wanted to drag them into Greece?

Which you claim was what the majority of the GC's want...
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Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:58 pm

Thanks for posting this. I have just watched all eleven clips. I have always believed that this man would have an interesting story to tell if he was permitted to tell it. Does anybody know if any bookshop in Cyprus has his book in stock?
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Postby Kifeas » Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:06 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:Thanks for posting this. I have just watched all eleven clips. I have always believed that this man would have an interesting story to tell if he was permitted to tell it. Does anybody know if any bookshop in Cyprus has his book in stock?


If you go to this link, you will be able to download an electronic version of the book, for as much as only $5.95 on your credit card.

http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore/It ... okid=43870
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Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:19 pm

Kifeas wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Thanks for posting this. I have just watched all eleven clips. I have always believed that this man would have an interesting story to tell if he was permitted to tell it. Does anybody know if any bookshop in Cyprus has his book in stock?


If you go to this link, you will be able to download an electronic version of the book, for as much as only $5.95 on your credit card.

http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore/It ... okid=43870


Thanks. I will look and see if any of the local bookshops have a conventional version first.
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Postby insan » Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:19 am

Tim Drayton wrote:Thanks for posting this. I have just watched all eleven clips. I have always believed that this man would have an interesting story to tell if he was permitted to tell it. Does anybody know if any bookshop in Cyprus has his book in stock?


What's happened and all of a sudden "they" permitted him to tell his story? "They" wanted to divide Cyprus but great Greek heroes didn't let them? Weren't they colloborators of "them"?

What's the meaning of being in the same alliance but still having interest conflicts over Cyprus? Was Cyprsu problem same at every stage of it's history? No. Did Packard have knowledge abt other stages of Cyprus problem? Or he just has knowledge abt the events of 1964? Hasn't partition always been an alternative solution for the Cyprus problem? Didn't "they" officially negotiated abt partition in 1964 and 1965? What's new with what Packard tells?

What serves best to the interests of western alliance? A divided Cyprus or united Cyprus? None... The only thing serves their interests is non interest conflict between Greeks and Turks over Cyprus; be it in a united Cyprus or divided.

In 1964, backwards and onwards; they might did/tried this and that in order to solve the problem between Turks and Greeks and what they tried/did might cause this or that... In the end, what they did was all for keeping the western alliance stable... and don't forget that, the representatives of vast majority of 2 communities have always given support to right wing parties that colloborated with allies to supposedly solve the Cyprus problem. "They" always exerted to satisfy the demands of Turks and Greeks to end the conflict between them.

The essential of the problem is the interest conflicts in our region between Turks and Greeks. Had allies not mediated/interfered; be sure much more blood would have been shed and most probably Turkey would have owned Cyprus by military force...

What's ur conclusions regarding the events of 1964?
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Postby bigOz » Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:51 am

Oracle wrote:Seems we now have another piece of the puzzle. Further proof that the idiots in this game have been the TCs who failed to resist being party to NATO games ...

As the party-faithful to Cyprus and Makarios, the GCs deserve to have their country back and the TCs to say sorry, remove the troops+settlers and trust us more in future!


HOLY SHITE! :shock:

If the GCs of Cyprus, my people are expected to trust, were all like you - I would soon stop being a happy socialist and become a murdering fascist!

NO THANKS MANAMU! :lol:
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Postby Tim Drayton » Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:28 am

Tim Drayton wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Thanks for posting this. I have just watched all eleven clips. I have always believed that this man would have an interesting story to tell if he was permitted to tell it. Does anybody know if any bookshop in Cyprus has his book in stock?


If you go to this link, you will be able to download an electronic version of the book, for as much as only $5.95 on your credit card.

http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore/It ... okid=43870


Thanks. I will look and see if any of the local bookshops have a conventional version first.


Yesterday, I found (and bought) a copy of Packard's book at Kyriakou bookshop near the Curium Roundabout in Limassol. Thanks to the author of this thread for bringing the existence of this book to my attention.
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Postby Jerry » Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:50 am

Tim Drayton wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Thanks for posting this. I have just watched all eleven clips. I have always believed that this man would have an interesting story to tell if he was permitted to tell it. Does anybody know if any bookshop in Cyprus has his book in stock?


If you go to this link, you will be able to download an electronic version of the book, for as much as only $5.95 on your credit card.

http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore/It ... okid=43870


Thanks. I will look and see if any of the local bookshops have a conventional version first.


Yesterday, I found (and bought) a copy of Packard's book at Kyriakou bookshop near the Curium Roundabout in Limassol. Thanks to the author of this thread for bringing the existence of this book to my attention.


I have read the first two chapters. The introduction gives a very fair and balanced overview of the Cyprus problem. I believe that Packard's book is essential reading to any student of the island's history, it is detailed and contains some interesting photos of the period. I intend to quote what I consider to be salient points from the book in this thread.
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