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Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:22 pm

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Tim you're not reading most of the thread as usual. south cypriots turned you lazy like themselves or is it too hot over there for a pale Brit?


I am reading enough of this thread to know that the man who said "Idiot there is no Greek minority in KKTC" keeps avoiding the question of what, then, if we accept the legitimacy of the TRNC is the status of the Greek-speaking people living in Rizokarpaso. You keep piling on the insults in the vain hope that this will cover up your total lack of knowledge about Cyprus. You are failing.
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Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:46 pm

A quote from a far-right Turkish web site:

http://www.doguturkistan.net/modules.ph ... e&sid=1260

Dipkarpaz'da sayıları bir kaç yüzü geçmeyen bir Rum azınlık yaşıyor.

A Greek minority numbering less than several hundred lives in Rizokarpaso.


This is the only logical position you can take if you support partition and consider the TRNC to be a legitimate entity.

Well, Runaway, are these people idiots? Why not drop them an e-mail and tell them so. Even better, go and tell them in person. Goodbye.
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Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:55 pm

You can also find the following quote on the web page that I have just quoted above:

Üzülerek ifade edilmeli ki, Kıbrıs'ın İslami kimliği SOS veriyor.

It has to be stated with sorrow that Cyprus's Islamic identity is sending out an SOS.


That seems to strike a chord with what Deniz is saying. Are these people rumdölü as well then?
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Postby runaway » Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:57 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:A quote from a far-right Turkish web site:

http://www.doguturkistan.net/modules.ph ... e&sid=1260

Dipkarpaz'da sayıları bir kaç yüzü geçmeyen bir Rum azınlık yaşıyor.

A Greek minority numbering less than several hundred lives in Rizokarpaso.


This is the only logical position you can take if you support partition and consider the TRNC to be a legitimate entity.

Well, Runaway, are these people idiots? Why not drop them an e-mail and tell them so. Even better, go and tell them in person. Goodbye.


As I told you, the real topic here was the status of Greek minority in Türkiye and the Turkish in Greece and how Turkish identity was rejected in Greece. Then it was blurred by DTthemurderer by diverting the topic. It's interesting to see you don't address it either. Are you afraid of accepting the human rights violation of Greece and making your Greek friends angry?
A few hundred gc s left in KKTC will eventually move south when they realize there will never be unification and that there won't be a south cypriot army to take the land back. Of course they can take KKTC citizenship and BECOME a Greek minority in KKTC and live in peace with their TC neighbours.
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Postby runaway » Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:59 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:You can also find the following quote on the web page that I have just quoted above:

Üzülerek ifade edilmeli ki, Kıbrıs'ın İslami kimliği SOS veriyor.

It has to be stated with sorrow that Cyprus's Islamic identity is sending out an SOS.


That seems to strike a chord with what Deniz is saying. Are these people rumdölü as well then?


Not at all. Denizrumdölü (following his idol popsicle) said they deny being Muslim. This one says they are Muslim but they are not practising enough.
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Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:39 pm

runaway wrote:A few hundred gc s left in KKTC will eventually move south when they realize there will never be unification and that there won't be a south cypriot army to take the land back. Of course they can take KKTC citizenship and BECOME a Greek minority in KKTC and live in peace with their TC neighbours.


I have found the following in the archives of the TRNC Publicity Office, dating back from 6 May 2002, a time when Runaway's professed hero Denktash was still in charge. Spot a clash of ideologies with the above?

http://www.trncinfo.com/TANITMADAIRESI/ARSIV2002/TURKCEarsiv/MAYIS/060502.htm

DIŞİŞLERİ’NDEN KARPAZ’DAKİ RUMLARA KUTLAMA MESAJI VE ÇİÇEK
Kıbrıs Rum Kesimi Kıbrıs Türk Halkı’nı sindirmek için her platformda mücadele verirken, Kuzey Kıbrıs Türk Cumhuriyeti’nde yaşayan az sayıdaki Rumlar ise dini ibadetleri başta olmak üzere özgürlüklerini doyasıya yaşıyorlar.
Dipkarpaz ve çevresinde yaşayan Rumlar dün Paskalya dolayısıyla Dipkarpaz ve Sipahi’deki kiliselerde toplanarak törenler gerçekleştirdiler. Yapılan dini törenlerde dualar okundu, mumlar yakılıp ekmek ve şarap dağıtıldı.
Törenlere Karpaz’daki yaşayan Rumların yanısıra Güney’den yakınlarını ziyaret için KKTC’ye geçen yaklaşık 55 Rum da katıldı.
Dışişleri ve Savunma Bakanlığı da, Rumların bu bayramalarına kutlama mesajı, çiçek ve ikram edilmek üzere tatlı gönderdi. Sabahın ilk saatlerinde Dipkarpaz’da yaklaşık 200 Rum’un katılımıyla Aios Sinesyus Kilisesi’ndeki ayinde kutlama mesajı Dişişleri ve Savunma Bakanlığı yetkililerinin de hazır bulunduğu bir sırada İskele Kaymakamı Mustafa Tamer tarafından yazılı olarak Papaz Zahariyas Yorgo’ya iletildi. Papaz Yorgo, Dipkarpaz Rum Muhtarı Andreas Tanis ve Sipahi Muhtarı Savas Liyazi de bu jeste teşekkür ederek memnuniyetlerini dile getirdiler.

MESSAGE OF CONGRATULATIONS AND FLOWERS FROM THE MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS TO THE GREEKS IN KARPASIA

With the Greek Cypriot Sector pushing on every platform to subdue the Turkish Cypriots, the small number of Greek Cypriots living in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus live in full freedom, particularly with respect to religious worship.
The Greek Cypriots living in and around Rizokarpaso yesterday congregated on the occasion of Easter in the churches in Rizokarpaso and Agia Trias. At the services that were held prayers were read, candles were lit and wine was distributed.
Apart from the Greek Cypriots living in Karpasia, around 55 Greek Cypriots from the South participated in the ceremonies so that they might visit their relatives.
The Ministries of Foreign Affairs and Defence sent congratulatory messages, flowers and sweets to be distributed in connection with this religious festival of the Greek Cypriots. In the early hours of the morning at the service attended by 200 Greek Cypriots at the Agios Synesios Church, the messages of congratulation were conveyed to Father Zacharias Giorgos by the Trikomo sub-provincial governor Mustafa Tamer with officials from the Ministries of Foreign Affairs and Defence present. Father Giorgos, Rizokarpaso Greek Cypriot village head Andreas Tanis and Agia Trias village head Savas Liyazi expressed their thanks for this gesture and spoke of their pleasure.


Funny that. Runaway appears to be telling the Greek Cypriots of Rizokarpaso to f*** off - mind you that seems to be the only sentiment this foul-mouthed oaf can express to anybody - while the partitionist TRNC regime of that time seems to be telling them they are welcome. Does this make Denktash an idiot, Runaway?
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Postby runaway » Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:43 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
runaway wrote:A few hundred gc s left in KKTC will eventually move south when they realize there will never be unification and that there won't be a south cypriot army to take the land back. Of course they can take KKTC citizenship and BECOME a Greek minority in KKTC and live in peace with their TC neighbours.


I have found the following in the archives of the TRNC Publicity Office, dating back from 6 May 2002, a time when your professed hero Denktash was still in charge. Spot a clash of ideologies with the above?

http://www.trncinfo.com/TANITMADAIRESI/ARSIV2002/TURKCEarsiv/MAYIS/060502.htm

DIŞİŞLERİ’NDEN KARPAZ’DAKİ RUMLARA KUTLAMA MESAJI VE ÇİÇEK
Kıbrıs Rum Kesimi Kıbrıs Türk Halkı’nı sindirmek için her platformda mücadele verirken, Kuzey Kıbrıs Türk Cumhuriyeti’nde yaşayan az sayıdaki Rumlar ise dini ibadetleri başta olmak üzere özgürlüklerini doyasıya yaşıyorlar.
Dipkarpaz ve çevresinde yaşayan Rumlar dün Paskalya dolayısıyla Dipkarpaz ve Sipahi’deki kiliselerde toplanarak törenler gerçekleştirdiler. Yapılan dini törenlerde dualar okundu, mumlar yakılıp ekmek ve şarap dağıtıldı.
Törenlere Karpaz’daki yaşayan Rumların yanısıra Güney’den yakınlarını ziyaret için KKTC’ye geçen yaklaşık 55 Rum da katıldı.
Dışişleri ve Savunma Bakanlığı da, Rumların bu bayramalarına kutlama mesajı, çiçek ve ikram edilmek üzere tatlı gönderdi. Sabahın ilk saatlerinde Dipkarpaz’da yaklaşık 200 Rum’un katılımıyla Aios Sinesyus Kilisesi’ndeki ayinde kutlama mesajı Dişişleri ve Savunma Bakanlığı yetkililerinin de hazır bulunduğu bir sırada İskele Kaymakamı Mustafa Tamer tarafından yazılı olarak Papaz Zahariyas Yorgo’ya iletildi. Papaz Yorgo, Dipkarpaz Rum Muhtarı Andreas Tanis ve Sipahi Muhtarı Savas Liyazi de bu jeste teşekkür ederek memnuniyetlerini dile getirdiler.

MESSAGE OF CONGRATULATIONS AND FLOWERS FROM THE MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS TO THE GREEKS IN KARPASIA

With the Greek Cypriot Sector pushing on every platform to subdue the Turkish Cypriots, the small number of Greek Cypriots living in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus live in full freedom, particularly with respect to religious worship.
The Greek Cypriots living in and around Rizokarpaso yesterday congregated on the occasion of Easter in the churches in Rizokarpaso and Agia Trias. At the services that were held prayers were read, candles were lit and wine was distributed.
Apart from the Greek Cypriots living in Karpasia, around 55 Greek Cypriots from the South participated in the ceremonies so that they might visit their relatives.
The Ministries of Foreign Affairs and Defence sent congratulatory messages, flowers and sweets to be distributed in connection with this religious festival of the Greek Cypriots. In the early hours of the morning at the service attended by 200 Greek Cypriots at the Agios Synesios Church, the messages of congratulation were conveyed to Father Zacharias Giorgos by the Trikomo sub-provincial governor Mustafa Tamer with officials from the Ministries of Foreign Affairs and Defence present. Father Giorgos, Rizokarpaso Greek Cypriot village head Andreas Tanis and Agia Trias village head Savas Liyazi expressed their thanks for this gesture and spoke of their pleasure.


Funny that. Runaway appears to be telling the Greek Cypriots of Rizokarpaso to f*** off - mind you that seems to be the only sentiment this foul-mouthed oath can express to anybody - while the partitionist TRNC regime of that time seems to be telling them they are welcome. Does this make Denktash an idiot, Runaway?


Who told them to fuck off? They are welcome as long as they respect the state they are living in: Kuzey Kıbrıs Türk Cumhuriyeti.
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Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:46 pm

runaway wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
runaway wrote:A few hundred gc s left in KKTC will eventually move south when they realize there will never be unification and that there won't be a south cypriot army to take the land back. Of course they can take KKTC citizenship and BECOME a Greek minority in KKTC and live in peace with their TC neighbours.


I have found the following in the archives of the TRNC Publicity Office, dating back from 6 May 2002, a time when your professed hero Denktash was still in charge. Spot a clash of ideologies with the above?

http://www.trncinfo.com/TANITMADAIRESI/ARSIV2002/TURKCEarsiv/MAYIS/060502.htm

DIŞİŞLERİ’NDEN KARPAZ’DAKİ RUMLARA KUTLAMA MESAJI VE ÇİÇEK
Kıbrıs Rum Kesimi Kıbrıs Türk Halkı’nı sindirmek için her platformda mücadele verirken, Kuzey Kıbrıs Türk Cumhuriyeti’nde yaşayan az sayıdaki Rumlar ise dini ibadetleri başta olmak üzere özgürlüklerini doyasıya yaşıyorlar.
Dipkarpaz ve çevresinde yaşayan Rumlar dün Paskalya dolayısıyla Dipkarpaz ve Sipahi’deki kiliselerde toplanarak törenler gerçekleştirdiler. Yapılan dini törenlerde dualar okundu, mumlar yakılıp ekmek ve şarap dağıtıldı.
Törenlere Karpaz’daki yaşayan Rumların yanısıra Güney’den yakınlarını ziyaret için KKTC’ye geçen yaklaşık 55 Rum da katıldı.
Dışişleri ve Savunma Bakanlığı da, Rumların bu bayramalarına kutlama mesajı, çiçek ve ikram edilmek üzere tatlı gönderdi. Sabahın ilk saatlerinde Dipkarpaz’da yaklaşık 200 Rum’un katılımıyla Aios Sinesyus Kilisesi’ndeki ayinde kutlama mesajı Dişişleri ve Savunma Bakanlığı yetkililerinin de hazır bulunduğu bir sırada İskele Kaymakamı Mustafa Tamer tarafından yazılı olarak Papaz Zahariyas Yorgo’ya iletildi. Papaz Yorgo, Dipkarpaz Rum Muhtarı Andreas Tanis ve Sipahi Muhtarı Savas Liyazi de bu jeste teşekkür ederek memnuniyetlerini dile getirdiler.

MESSAGE OF CONGRATULATIONS AND FLOWERS FROM THE MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS TO THE GREEKS IN KARPASIA

With the Greek Cypriot Sector pushing on every platform to subdue the Turkish Cypriots, the small number of Greek Cypriots living in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus live in full freedom, particularly with respect to religious worship.
The Greek Cypriots living in and around Rizokarpaso yesterday congregated on the occasion of Easter in the churches in Rizokarpaso and Agia Trias. At the services that were held prayers were read, candles were lit and wine was distributed.
Apart from the Greek Cypriots living in Karpasia, around 55 Greek Cypriots from the South participated in the ceremonies so that they might visit their relatives.
The Ministries of Foreign Affairs and Defence sent congratulatory messages, flowers and sweets to be distributed in connection with this religious festival of the Greek Cypriots. In the early hours of the morning at the service attended by 200 Greek Cypriots at the Agios Synesios Church, the messages of congratulation were conveyed to Father Zacharias Giorgos by the Trikomo sub-provincial governor Mustafa Tamer with officials from the Ministries of Foreign Affairs and Defence present. Father Giorgos, Rizokarpaso Greek Cypriot village head Andreas Tanis and Agia Trias village head Savas Liyazi expressed their thanks for this gesture and spoke of their pleasure.


Funny that. Runaway appears to be telling the Greek Cypriots of Rizokarpaso to f*** off - mind you that seems to be the only sentiment this foul-mouthed oath can express to anybody - while the partitionist TRNC regime of that time seems to be telling them they are welcome. Does this make Denktash an idiot, Runaway?


Who told them to fuck off? They are welcome as long as they respect the state they are living in: Kuzey Kıbrıs Türk Cumhuriyeti.


And, bearing in mind your pronouncement on page 6 of this thread (post number 5 on that page) "Idiot there is no Greek minority in KKTC", who are 'they'?
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Postby runaway » Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:56 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
runaway wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
runaway wrote:A few hundred gc s left in KKTC will eventually move south when they realize there will never be unification and that there won't be a south cypriot army to take the land back. Of course they can take KKTC citizenship and BECOME a Greek minority in KKTC and live in peace with their TC neighbours.


I have found the following in the archives of the TRNC Publicity Office, dating back from 6 May 2002, a time when your professed hero Denktash was still in charge. Spot a clash of ideologies with the above?

http://www.trncinfo.com/TANITMADAIRESI/ARSIV2002/TURKCEarsiv/MAYIS/060502.htm

DIŞİŞLERİ’NDEN KARPAZ’DAKİ RUMLARA KUTLAMA MESAJI VE ÇİÇEK
Kıbrıs Rum Kesimi Kıbrıs Türk Halkı’nı sindirmek için her platformda mücadele verirken, Kuzey Kıbrıs Türk Cumhuriyeti’nde yaşayan az sayıdaki Rumlar ise dini ibadetleri başta olmak üzere özgürlüklerini doyasıya yaşıyorlar.
Dipkarpaz ve çevresinde yaşayan Rumlar dün Paskalya dolayısıyla Dipkarpaz ve Sipahi’deki kiliselerde toplanarak törenler gerçekleştirdiler. Yapılan dini törenlerde dualar okundu, mumlar yakılıp ekmek ve şarap dağıtıldı.
Törenlere Karpaz’daki yaşayan Rumların yanısıra Güney’den yakınlarını ziyaret için KKTC’ye geçen yaklaşık 55 Rum da katıldı.
Dışişleri ve Savunma Bakanlığı da, Rumların bu bayramalarına kutlama mesajı, çiçek ve ikram edilmek üzere tatlı gönderdi. Sabahın ilk saatlerinde Dipkarpaz’da yaklaşık 200 Rum’un katılımıyla Aios Sinesyus Kilisesi’ndeki ayinde kutlama mesajı Dişişleri ve Savunma Bakanlığı yetkililerinin de hazır bulunduğu bir sırada İskele Kaymakamı Mustafa Tamer tarafından yazılı olarak Papaz Zahariyas Yorgo’ya iletildi. Papaz Yorgo, Dipkarpaz Rum Muhtarı Andreas Tanis ve Sipahi Muhtarı Savas Liyazi de bu jeste teşekkür ederek memnuniyetlerini dile getirdiler.

MESSAGE OF CONGRATULATIONS AND FLOWERS FROM THE MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS TO THE GREEKS IN KARPASIA

With the Greek Cypriot Sector pushing on every platform to subdue the Turkish Cypriots, the small number of Greek Cypriots living in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus live in full freedom, particularly with respect to religious worship.
The Greek Cypriots living in and around Rizokarpaso yesterday congregated on the occasion of Easter in the churches in Rizokarpaso and Agia Trias. At the services that were held prayers were read, candles were lit and wine was distributed.
Apart from the Greek Cypriots living in Karpasia, around 55 Greek Cypriots from the South participated in the ceremonies so that they might visit their relatives.
The Ministries of Foreign Affairs and Defence sent congratulatory messages, flowers and sweets to be distributed in connection with this religious festival of the Greek Cypriots. In the early hours of the morning at the service attended by 200 Greek Cypriots at the Agios Synesios Church, the messages of congratulation were conveyed to Father Zacharias Giorgos by the Trikomo sub-provincial governor Mustafa Tamer with officials from the Ministries of Foreign Affairs and Defence present. Father Giorgos, Rizokarpaso Greek Cypriot village head Andreas Tanis and Agia Trias village head Savas Liyazi expressed their thanks for this gesture and spoke of their pleasure.


Funny that. Runaway appears to be telling the Greek Cypriots of Rizokarpaso to f*** off - mind you that seems to be the only sentiment this foul-mouthed oath can express to anybody - while the partitionist TRNC regime of that time seems to be telling them they are welcome. Does this make Denktash an idiot, Runaway?


Who told them to fuck off? They are welcome as long as they respect the state they are living in: Kuzey Kıbrıs Türk Cumhuriyeti.


And, bearing in mind your pronouncement on page 6 of this thread (post number 5 on that page) "Idiot there is no Greek minority in KKTC", who are 'they'?


Do they have KKTC identity cards? Do they get married in KKTC municipalities?
What's your stand on non-recognition of Turkish minority in Greece? What do you think on the ban on "Turkish Union of Xanthi" because of the name "Turk"?
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:13 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
runaway wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
runaway wrote:A few hundred gc s left in KKTC will eventually move south when they realize there will never be unification and that there won't be a south cypriot army to take the land back. Of course they can take KKTC citizenship and BECOME a Greek minority in KKTC and live in peace with their TC neighbours.


I have found the following in the archives of the TRNC Publicity Office, dating back from 6 May 2002, a time when your professed hero Denktash was still in charge. Spot a clash of ideologies with the above?

http://www.trncinfo.com/TANITMADAIRESI/ARSIV2002/TURKCEarsiv/MAYIS/060502.htm

DIŞİŞLERİ’NDEN KARPAZ’DAKİ RUMLARA KUTLAMA MESAJI VE ÇİÇEK
Kıbrıs Rum Kesimi Kıbrıs Türk Halkı’nı sindirmek için her platformda mücadele verirken, Kuzey Kıbrıs Türk Cumhuriyeti’nde yaşayan az sayıdaki Rumlar ise dini ibadetleri başta olmak üzere özgürlüklerini doyasıya yaşıyorlar.
Dipkarpaz ve çevresinde yaşayan Rumlar dün Paskalya dolayısıyla Dipkarpaz ve Sipahi’deki kiliselerde toplanarak törenler gerçekleştirdiler. Yapılan dini törenlerde dualar okundu, mumlar yakılıp ekmek ve şarap dağıtıldı.
Törenlere Karpaz’daki yaşayan Rumların yanısıra Güney’den yakınlarını ziyaret için KKTC’ye geçen yaklaşık 55 Rum da katıldı.
Dışişleri ve Savunma Bakanlığı da, Rumların bu bayramalarına kutlama mesajı, çiçek ve ikram edilmek üzere tatlı gönderdi. Sabahın ilk saatlerinde Dipkarpaz’da yaklaşık 200 Rum’un katılımıyla Aios Sinesyus Kilisesi’ndeki ayinde kutlama mesajı Dişişleri ve Savunma Bakanlığı yetkililerinin de hazır bulunduğu bir sırada İskele Kaymakamı Mustafa Tamer tarafından yazılı olarak Papaz Zahariyas Yorgo’ya iletildi. Papaz Yorgo, Dipkarpaz Rum Muhtarı Andreas Tanis ve Sipahi Muhtarı Savas Liyazi de bu jeste teşekkür ederek memnuniyetlerini dile getirdiler.

MESSAGE OF CONGRATULATIONS AND FLOWERS FROM THE MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS TO THE GREEKS IN KARPASIA

With the Greek Cypriot Sector pushing on every platform to subdue the Turkish Cypriots, the small number of Greek Cypriots living in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus live in full freedom, particularly with respect to religious worship.
The Greek Cypriots living in and around Rizokarpaso yesterday congregated on the occasion of Easter in the churches in Rizokarpaso and Agia Trias. At the services that were held prayers were read, candles were lit and wine was distributed.
Apart from the Greek Cypriots living in Karpasia, around 55 Greek Cypriots from the South participated in the ceremonies so that they might visit their relatives.
The Ministries of Foreign Affairs and Defence sent congratulatory messages, flowers and sweets to be distributed in connection with this religious festival of the Greek Cypriots. In the early hours of the morning at the service attended by 200 Greek Cypriots at the Agios Synesios Church, the messages of congratulation were conveyed to Father Zacharias Giorgos by the Trikomo sub-provincial governor Mustafa Tamer with officials from the Ministries of Foreign Affairs and Defence present. Father Giorgos, Rizokarpaso Greek Cypriot village head Andreas Tanis and Agia Trias village head Savas Liyazi expressed their thanks for this gesture and spoke of their pleasure.


Funny that. Runaway appears to be telling the Greek Cypriots of Rizokarpaso to f*** off - mind you that seems to be the only sentiment this foul-mouthed oath can express to anybody - while the partitionist TRNC regime of that time seems to be telling them they are welcome. Does this make Denktash an idiot, Runaway?


Who told them to fuck off? They are welcome as long as they respect the state they are living in: Kuzey Kıbrıs Türk Cumhuriyeti.


And, bearing in mind your pronouncement on page 6 of this thread (post number 5 on that page) "Idiot there is no Greek minority in KKTC", who are 'they'?



He is not worth wasting your time on Tim. At least he has admitted that a number of Greek Cypriot DO live in Rizo-Karpazo which contradicts his earlier assertion. He seems to know much about my heritage but has failed to admit that the Greek Cypriot population of the northern territories were ethnically cleansed. It would be too much to swallow. He will only throw in a red herring which has nothing to do with the Cyprob.
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