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MEMBERS OF A MARTYRS ASSOCIATION WANT TO APPLY TO ECHR FOR GC ATROCITY IN TC VILLAGES

Members of the Association for the Sustentation of Martyrs of Murataga, Atlilar and Sandallar are preparing to apply to the European Court of Human Rights for massacres carried out by Greek Cypriots.

Members visited the TRNC Prime Minister Dervis Eroglu today to ask for his support in the process.

Prime Minister Dervis Eroglu welcomed the delegation by expressing the desire that the bitter events of the past will be not be experienced ever again.

He said many Turkish Cypriots fell as martyrs, became war veterans and had to leave their homes as a result of the Greek Cypriot dream of annexing Cyprus to Greece.

The Premier emphasized that a possible solution to the Cyprus problem should be a lasting one which will not force us to look back for peace and security we have today.

“While sitting at the negotiations table, we have to think of the future, bearing in mind what to do in case Greek Cypriots decide to attack us again after 40 years” Eroglu said.

Prime Minister moved on by saying that the people of the TRNC should be at the negotiations table, not because the international community wants so, but because they want this themselves in order to protect their rights.

Mr Eroglu said “the land we own has no value for the international world but it’s a value to us”.

“We say ‘yes’ to the maintenance of negotiations in order to prevent the repetition of the bitter past. We are in the government to ensure that the Turkish Cypriots live in security within the TRNC land” he went on saying.

The President of the Association for the Sustentation of Martyrs of Murataga, Atlilar and Sandallar- Ahmet Asir for his part said these three villages witnessed one of the worst Greek Cypriot atrocities with the killing of many people, 80 % of them being women and children.

He said the Association wants to bring this tragic fact onto the ECHR’s agenda and asked for governmental support.


TALAT VISITS MURATAGA, SANDALLAR AND ATILITAR MARTYRDOM

The President of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus Mehmet Ali Talat paid a visit to the Atlilar, Murataga and Sandallar martyrdoms yesterday.

He placed a wreath at the martyrdom and then came together with martyr families at the Martyr Museum.

Speaking here the President noted that the TC'S had suffered greatly, and added that ‘we will never relive the bitter experiences of the past we are working towards a solution that safeguards Turkey’s Guarantees.’

Referring to the Martyr’s families application to the European Court of Human rights, the President said ‘we will give the necessary support’.
Reiterating that TC's who wanted to live equally on the island had suffered greatly in the past, President Talat said ‘so we do not relive those sufferings we are working towards finding a solution to the Cyprus problem that safeguards Turkey’s guarantees, an agreement that renders political equality as the fundamental principal.’

After touring the museum, the President signed the special book with the words ‘it is our duty to ease the pains that were left behind by our martyrs’.

[bigOz]

MEMBERS OF A MARTYRS ASSOCIATION WANT TO APPLY TO ECHR FOR GC ATROCITY IN TC VILLAGES

Members of the Association for the Sustentation of Martyrs of Murataga, Atlilar and Sandallar are preparing to apply to the European Court of Human Rights for massacres carried out by Greek Cypriots.

Members visited the TRNC Prime Minister Dervis Eroglu today to ask for his support in the process.

Prime Minister Dervis Eroglu welcomed the delegation by expressing the desire that the bitter events of the past will be not be experienced ever again.

He said many Turkish Cypriots fell as martyrs, became war veterans and had to leave their homes as a result of the Greek Cypriot dream of annexing Cyprus to Greece.

The Premier emphasized that a possible solution to the Cyprus problem should be a lasting one which will not force us to look back for peace and security we have today.

“While sitting at the negotiations table, we have to think of the future, bearing in mind what to do in case Greek Cypriots decide to attack us again after 40 years” Eroglu said.

Prime Minister moved on by saying that the people of the TRNC should be at the negotiations table, not because the international community wants so, but because they want this themselves in order to protect their rights.

Mr Eroglu said “the land we own has no value for the international world but it’s a value to us”.

“We say ‘yes’ to the maintenance of negotiations in order to prevent the repetition of the bitter past. We are in the government to ensure that the Turkish Cypriots live in security within the TRNC land” he went on saying.

The President of the Association for the Sustentation of Martyrs of Murataga, Atlilar and Sandallar- Ahmet Asir for his part said these three villages witnessed one of the worst Greek Cypriot atrocities with the killing of many people, 80 % of them being women and children.

He said the Association wants to bring this tragic fact onto the ECHR’s agenda and asked for governmental support.


TALAT VISITS MURATAGA, SANDALLAR AND ATILITAR MARTYRDOM

The President of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus Mehmet Ali Talat paid a visit to the Atlilar, Murataga and Sandallar martyrdoms yesterday.

He placed a wreath at the martyrdom and then came together with martyr families at the Martyr Museum.

Speaking here the President noted that the TC'S had suffered greatly, and added that ‘we will never relive the bitter experiences of the past we are working towards a solution that safeguards Turkey’s Guarantees.’

Referring to the Martyr’s families application to the European Court of Human rights, the President said ‘we will give the necessary support’.
Reiterating that TC's who wanted to live equally on the island had suffered greatly in the past, President Talat said ‘so we do not relive those sufferings we are working towards finding a solution to the Cyprus problem that safeguards Turkey’s guarantees, an agreement that renders political equality as the fundamental principal.’

After touring the museum, the President signed the special book with the words ‘it is our duty to ease the pains that were left behind by our martyrs’.

About time and all...

The only way our fellow Cypriots will get off their high horses is when TCs become more active in the European courts not only starting counter claims for their illegelly occupied land and homes in the South but asking for the punishment/compensation for the war crimes between1964 and 1974.

The GCs will lose out badly because their crimes concerning the intentional destruction of civilian lives (mainly women and children) as well as whole villages far exceeds anything the TCs had ever done to them.

Yes! I also believe there were probably some Greek prisoners of war that were unfortunate enough to be in custody at the wrong time - i.e when these mass graves of Turkish civilians were discovered. And I believe quite a few also got executed as a reprisal - who is to say how I or any of the GCs in this forum would have acted under the same circumstances...

The fact remains - these people and many others before them were murdered by EOKA-B just for being TCs and for no other reason what so ever. AND THAT MAKES IT A WAR CRIME OF FIRST DEGREE!

[miltiades]

Big Oz , the ECHR , a worldwide respected organization gives judgments against infringements on human rights .
It does not become involved in acrimonious propaganda issues. The G/C extremists were not representative of the Cypriot people. Turkey on the other hand IS responsible for its continued violation of human rights.
The case , if it ever reached the ECHR , will be be dismissed. The aggressor right now is the occupying army , not my words but the words of the entire international community.

[DT.]

MEMBERS OF A MARTYRS ASSOCIATION WANT TO APPLY TO ECHR FOR GC ATROCITY IN TC VILLAGES

Members of the Association for the Sustentation of Martyrs of Murataga, Atlilar and Sandallar are preparing to apply to the European Court of Human Rights for massacres carried out by Greek Cypriots.

Members visited the TRNC Prime Minister Dervis Eroglu today to ask for his support in the process.

Prime Minister Dervis Eroglu welcomed the delegation by expressing the desire that the bitter events of the past will be not be experienced ever again.

He said many Turkish Cypriots fell as martyrs, became war veterans and had to leave their homes as a result of the Greek Cypriot dream of annexing Cyprus to Greece.

The Premier emphasized that a possible solution to the Cyprus problem should be a lasting one which will not force us to look back for peace and security we have today.

“While sitting at the negotiations table, we have to think of the future, bearing in mind what to do in case Greek Cypriots decide to attack us again after 40 years” Eroglu said.

Prime Minister moved on by saying that the people of the TRNC should be at the negotiations table, not because the international community wants so, but because they want this themselves in order to protect their rights.

Mr Eroglu said “the land we own has no value for the international world but it’s a value to us”.

“We say ‘yes’ to the maintenance of negotiations in order to prevent the repetition of the bitter past. We are in the government to ensure that the Turkish Cypriots live in security within the TRNC land” he went on saying.

The President of the Association for the Sustentation of Martyrs of Murataga, Atlilar and Sandallar- Ahmet Asir for his part said these three villages witnessed one of the worst Greek Cypriot atrocities with the killing of many people, 80 % of them being women and children.

He said the Association wants to bring this tragic fact onto the ECHR’s agenda and asked for governmental support.


TALAT VISITS MURATAGA, SANDALLAR AND ATILITAR MARTYRDOM

The President of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus Mehmet Ali Talat paid a visit to the Atlilar, Murataga and Sandallar martyrdoms yesterday.

He placed a wreath at the martyrdom and then came together with martyr families at the Martyr Museum.

Speaking here the President noted that the TC'S had suffered greatly, and added that ‘we will never relive the bitter experiences of the past we are working towards a solution that safeguards Turkey’s Guarantees.’

Referring to the Martyr’s families application to the European Court of Human rights, the President said ‘we will give the necessary support’.
Reiterating that TC's who wanted to live equally on the island had suffered greatly in the past, President Talat said ‘so we do not relive those sufferings we are working towards finding a solution to the Cyprus problem that safeguards Turkey’s guarantees, an agreement that renders political equality as the fundamental principal.’

After touring the museum, the President signed the special book with the words ‘it is our duty to ease the pains that were left behind by our martyrs’.

About time and all...

The only way our fellow Cypriots will get off their high horses is when TCs become more active in the European courts not only starting counter claims for their illegelly occupied land and homes in the South but asking for the punishment/compensation for the war crimes between1964 and 1974.

The GCs will lose out badly because their crimes concerning the intentional destruction of civilian lives (mainly women and children) as well as whole villages far exceeds anything the TCs had ever done to them.

Yes! I also believe there were probably some Greek prisoners of war that were unfortunate enough to be in custody at the wrong time - i.e when these mass graves of Turkish civilians were discovered. And I believe quite a few also got executed as a reprisal - who is to say how I or any of the GCs in this forum would have acted under the same circumstances...

The fact remains - these people and many others before them were murdered by EOKA-B just for being TCs and for no other reason what so ever. AND THAT MAKES IT A WAR CRIME OF FIRST DEGREE!

Are you denying GC women and children being slaughtered and found in mass graves BigOz?

[Get Real!]

...but asking for the punishment/compensation for the war crimes between1964 and 1974.

Like the 1967 war crimes when among other things, Turkish Cypriots manhandled and killed senior UN peacekeepers?

http://www.unficyp.org/nqcontent.cfm?a_ ... ic&lang=L1

The GCs will lose out badly because their crimes concerning the intentional destruction of civilian lives (mainly women and children) as well as whole villages far exceeds anything the TCs had ever done to them.

Are you suggesting that TCs take on the TMT for "war crimes" because they uprooted TCs from their properties? That's not a "war crime", but sheer TC stupidity.

Yes! I also believe there were probably some Greek prisoners of war that were unfortunate enough to be in custody at the wrong time - i.e when these mass graves of Turkish civilians were discovered. And I believe quite a few also got executed as a reprisal - who is to say how I or any of the GCs in this forum would have acted under the same circumstances...

The pure unadulterated genius of yet another TC! Keep 'em coming!

The fact remains - these people and many others before them were murdered by EOKA-B just for being TCs and for no other reason what so ever. AND THAT MAKES IT A WAR CRIME OF FIRST DEGREE!

So you have 200 odd victims... lucky you ain't got 5,000!

[Oracle]

This should be raised at the ECHR.

The date of these alleged incidents should make a stark contrast with what the Turkish Army and their allies, the TCs, did to GCs before and during these events. What is more, it will highlight how no TCs were harmed for some several years preceding these unfortunate casualties.

Also, it will finally show the falsehood by which Turkey claims it came to bring peace ... since it served only to inflame the situation and without doubt nothing like this would have happened if the Turks had not invaded, killing thousands of GCs.

[Dr J]

Good lets do it! Finally we might be able to some of the truth in the midst of the mass bullshit the Turks claim against the Cypriots.

I find it hard to take serious Turkish because they tell SO MANY lies, but if the ECHR makes a verdict i'll believe it.

[Piratis]

He said many Turkish Cypriots fell as martyrs, became war veterans and had to leave their homes as a result of the Greek Cypriot dream of annexing Cyprus to Greece.

Very wrong. What required killing and ethnic cleansing was the Turkish dream of partition. The north part of Cyprus, just like every other part, had a majority of GCs for 1000s of years. Creating a "Turkish State" on territory where the GC population is 5 times more than TCs is obviously not possible, so the partition dream of Turks required the annihilation of the majority of Cypriots from half of their homeland.

On the other hand, to unite Cyprus with Greece (or any other country for that matter) the only thing needed was a peaceful and democratic referendum where all Cypriots would cast their one vote each, and if the majority wanted union with Greece then that would happen and the rest Cypriots would have to respect this democratic decision.

The Cypriots would continue to live where they have always lived, but this time instead of Cyprus being part of some foreign empire imposed on Cypriots by force and with Cypriots mere subjects of that empire, Cyprus would be part of the Republic they choose, as equal citizens. No conflicts and no human rights violations of anybody were required or even desired.

The inter-communal conflict and the war of 1974 were both started by Turks and TCs, in their effort to put their criminal plan of partition into action, a plan they created in the 1950s and which they are still trying to fully implement. It is during the conflicts and wars which the Turks started that many 1000s of GCs and far less TCs were killed.

This is true in the case of Murataga, Atlilar and Sandallar as well. In 1974 no TC was killed before the Turkish invasion. The Turks with the help of TCs started the war on 20th of July 1974, started to kill Cypriots by the 1000s and commiting many other atrocities, and only after the TCs had a couple of 100s of casualties as well.

So the cause of the death of those couple of 100s of TCs (and many 1000s of GCs) was the Turkish dream of partition and the Turkish invasion that was made in order to put the partition plan into action.

I condemn the killing of innocent people, and I hope that one day the Turks will realize that democracy is the way to take decisions for Cyprus and not brute force, because starting conflicts and wars inevitably results in the loss of many innocent people.

[Viewpoint]

He said many Turkish Cypriots fell as martyrs, became war veterans and had to leave their homes as a result of the Greek Cypriot dream of annexing Cyprus to Greece.

Very wrong. What required killing and ethnic cleansing was the Turkish dream of partition. The north part of Cyprus, just like every other part, had a majority of GCs for 1000s of years. Creating a "Turkish State" on territory where the GC population is 5 times more than TCs is obviously not possible, so the partition dream of Turks required the annihilation of the majority of Cypriots from half of their homeland.

On the other hand, to unite Cyprus with Greece (or any other country for that matter) the only thing needed was a peaceful and democratic referendum where all Cypriots would cast their one vote each, and if the majority wanted union with Greece then that would happen and the rest Cypriots would have to respect this democratic decision.

The Cypriots would continue to live where they have always lived, but this time instead of Cyprus being part of some foreign empire imposed on Cypriots by force and with Cypriots mere subjects of that empire, Cyprus would be part of the Republic they choose, as equal citizens. No conflicts and no human rights violations of anybody were required or even desired.

The inter-communal conflict and the war of 1974 were both started by Turks and TCs, in their effort to put their criminal plan of partition into action, a plan they created in the 1950s and which they are still trying to fully implement. It is during the conflicts and wars which the Turks started that many 1000s of GCs and far less TCs were killed.

This is true in the case of Murataga, Atlilar and Sandallar as well. In 1974 no TC was killed before the Turkish invasion. The Turks with the help of TCs started the war on 20th of July 1974, started to kill Cypriots by the 1000s and commiting many other atrocities, and only after the TCs had a couple of 100s of casualties as well.

So the cause of the death of those couple of 100s of TCs (and many 1000s of GCs) was the Turkish dream of partition and the Turkish invasion that was made in order to put the partition plan into action.

I condemn the killing of innocent people, and I hope that one day the Turks will realize that democracy is the way to take decisions for Cyprus and not brute force, because starting conflicts and wars inevitably results in the loss of many innocent people.

What is this guy on? can you believe the mindset nothing has changed in 46 years we should be extra extra careful the hidden agenda is clear for all to read.

[Piratis]

He said many Turkish Cypriots fell as martyrs, became war veterans and had to leave their homes as a result of the Greek Cypriot dream of annexing Cyprus to Greece.

Very wrong. What required killing and ethnic cleansing was the Turkish dream of partition. The north part of Cyprus, just like every other part, had a majority of GCs for 1000s of years. Creating a "Turkish State" on territory where the GC population is 5 times more than TCs is obviously not possible, so the partition dream of Turks required the annihilation of the majority of Cypriots from half of their homeland.

On the other hand, to unite Cyprus with Greece (or any other country for that matter) the only thing needed was a peaceful and democratic referendum where all Cypriots would cast their one vote each, and if the majority wanted union with Greece then that would happen and the rest Cypriots would have to respect this democratic decision.

The Cypriots would continue to live where they have always lived, but this time instead of Cyprus being part of some foreign empire imposed on Cypriots by force and with Cypriots mere subjects of that empire, Cyprus would be part of the Republic they choose, as equal citizens. No conflicts and no human rights violations of anybody were required or even desired.

The inter-communal conflict and the war of 1974 were both started by Turks and TCs, in their effort to put their criminal plan of partition into action, a plan they created in the 1950s and which they are still trying to fully implement. It is during the conflicts and wars which the Turks started that many 1000s of GCs and far less TCs were killed.

This is true in the case of Murataga, Atlilar and Sandallar as well. In 1974 no TC was killed before the Turkish invasion. The Turks with the help of TCs started the war on 20th of July 1974, started to kill Cypriots by the 1000s and commiting many other atrocities, and only after the TCs had a couple of 100s of casualties as well.

So the cause of the death of those couple of 100s of TCs (and many 1000s of GCs) was the Turkish dream of partition and the Turkish invasion that was made in order to put the partition plan into action.

I condemn the killing of innocent people, and I hope that one day the Turks will realize that democracy is the way to take decisions for Cyprus and not brute force, because starting conflicts and wars inevitably results in the loss of many innocent people.

What is this guy on? can you believe the mindset nothing has changed in 46 years we should be extra extra careful the hidden agenda is clear for all to read.

Nothing is "hidden". We want the same today as we always wanted: Freedom from foreign invaders so we can freely and democratically decide about our island. No matter how many wars against us you start, what we want will never change.