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[shahmaran]

They were selfish!

They were just as right as the Taksim guys were...

The GCs were not selfish in wanting what was right for them, from thousands of years heritage.

As for your Turk-Taksim having any rights .... if you believe that, then you also believe they were as entitled as Hitler was to exterminate Jews.

Just the fact that you so easily resort to Godwin's Law is enough proof of what a false argument you actually have, Oracle.

First of all, when I said "selfish" I meant the Greek's not the GC's.

It is hard to believe that they put your "Greekness" before your lands, in other words they are selfish, selfish enough to slaughter you for it.

If you claim that you have a right for Enosis that would mean we have a right for Taksim, it is plain and simple, because this is our country as well.

You do not own this country any more or any less than we do and you cannot claim Enosis by "bypassing" us, just because you are too racist to see the above mentioned truth.

Thank you for not allowing yourselves to be "bypassed" but instead joining in with the "slaughter" of GCs in ten-fold measure, so that you can grab maximum gains whilst GCs fought against a coup!

Funny how the Turks constantly refer to "owning" this land ... as though still trying to prove they belong here. We do not contest "ownership" but an inheritance of the island as a whole and the right to pass it on to morally honest generations ... traits the Turk-TCs have yet to exhibit amidst the real racist and segregationist ethnic cleansing they preside over...

As for Godwin's Law ... it is the only law you Turks seem to understand!

I have not "gained" anything on anyones loss, just like the many TC's who also fought the coop and did not "join in" with the slaughter while many GC's were claiming that Enosis was their "right" !

So again your generalisation is unrealistic and imaginary, which is the only real argument you seem to have and that happens to be pretty meaningless

I'm telling you Oracle, racism will not get you anywhere, not even on a simple Internet discussion, let alone in politics

Well you are the expert on practicing racism ... (being your most frequently used word) ... hoping that blindly accusing others would excuse you from living in the last racially segregated and ethnically cleansed territory in the world.

Actually there are many more, but no need to scrutinize your knowledge of global politics as it seems to start in Limassol and end at Nicosia

You should also remember that the only times I really use the word "racist" is when talking to you and Piratis.

Ever wondered why?

Awfully similar you 2 are...

[Oracle]

You should also remember that the only times I really use the word "racist" is when talking to you and Piratis.

Ever wondered why?

Yes it's your tactic when you fail to provide an effective counter-argument!

[shahmaran]

You should also remember that the only times I really use the word "racist" is when talking to you and Piratis.

Ever wondered why?

Yes it's your tactic when you fail to provide an effective counter-argument!

Being blindly racist can hardly be considered as an "argument" Oracle

[Oracle]

You should also remember that the only times I really use the word "racist" is when talking to you and Piratis.

Ever wondered why?

Yes it's your tactic when you fail to provide an effective counter-argument!

Being blindly racist can hardly be considered as an "argument" Oracle

Yup ... there you go again ... falling back on your tried and tested tactic!

[shahmaran]

You should also remember that the only times I really use the word "racist" is when talking to you and Piratis.

Ever wondered why?

Yes it's your tactic when you fail to provide an effective counter-argument!

Being blindly racist can hardly be considered as an "argument" Oracle

Yup ... there you go again ... falling back on your tried and tested tactic!

Oh shoot, you really got me there!

Oracle, pointing out the racism in someones words is hardly a "tactic".

Racist views cannot be the basis of any argument simply because they are irrational.

Maybe it is time you take on another perspective, you never know what you might find

You might even end up liking me

[yialousa1971]

. More than 80% of the Cypriot people wanted ENOSIS.
Wrong with hindsight but quite right at the time. .

You backward apologist!

Why were 80% of the Cypriots who wanted Enosis wrong according to your superior hindsight?

It may be unnecessary for survival NOW ... but how can you be so confident it was wrong of them to seek it then?

We were wrong because we did not know what scum bugs the Kalamaras were , and we were mentally raped at school so as not to be proud of being Greek Cypriots but forced into believing that we were Greeks.
Enosis with Greece was , mitera Ellada , paramithai tis halimas , nonsense that we fell for because my dear we knew nothing better.
I told you before , I know the Greeks far better than you ever will , and I dont consider them worthy of us Cypriots ( Ta kipriaka gaidouria) to be part of them.
While I'm at it let me get something else of my chest.
I watch Greek TV as well as Cyprus TV.
My favourite Greek tv show is " STIN IYIA SAS RE PEDIA.
I like it because at times it features some of the greatest Greek singers of our times.
What I hate is how utterly unsophisticated the guests can at times be. They smoke like bloody chimneys , they do not have the fucking sense to know that their disgusting dated third world habit can influence the young in thinking that it is cool to smoke.

Last night it was taken off and replaced by a religious programme that bored the pants of me within 10 seconds.
Hell woman , you join the Greeks we are fine as we are , proud Cypriots , better mannered , better ...lovers and , apart from Plonker G.Michael better socialites !!!

ps. I do like the Greeks really , love taking the piss when I'm around them !!

Do you get 30 argyra for saying your not Greek?

[miltiades]

. More than 80% of the Cypriot people wanted ENOSIS.
Wrong with hindsight but quite right at the time. .

You backward apologist!

Why were 80% of the Cypriots who wanted Enosis wrong according to your superior hindsight?

It may be unnecessary for survival NOW ... but how can you be so confident it was wrong of them to seek it then?

We were wrong because we did not know what scum bugs the Kalamaras were , and we were mentally raped at school so as not to be proud of being Greek Cypriots but forced into believing that we were Greeks.
Enosis with Greece was , mitera Ellada , paramithai tis halimas , nonsense that we fell for because my dear we knew nothing better.
I told you before , I know the Greeks far better than you ever will , and I dont consider them worthy of us Cypriots ( Ta kipriaka gaidouria) to be part of them.
While I'm at it let me get something else of my chest.
I watch Greek TV as well as Cyprus TV.
My favourite Greek tv show is " STIN IYIA SAS RE PEDIA.
I like it because at times it features some of the greatest Greek singers of our times.
What I hate is how utterly unsophisticated the guests can at times be. They smoke like bloody chimneys , they do not have the fucking sense to know that their disgusting dated third world habit can influence the young in thinking that it is cool to smoke.

Last night it was taken off and replaced by a religious programme that bored the pants of me within 10 seconds.
Hell woman , you join the Greeks we are fine as we are , proud Cypriots , better mannered , better ...lovers and , apart from Plonker G.Michael better socialites !!!

ps. I do like the Greeks really , love taking the piss when I'm around them !!

Do you get 30 argyra for saying your not Greek?

I'm a Greek Cypriot , not a Greek of Cyprus , and certainly not a Greek , the same as all other G/Cs , tremendous difference mate.
We are referred to officially on IDs and Passports as CYPRIOT NATIONALS
and in differentiating between the T/Cs , Armenian and other Cypriots we are commonly referred to as ELLINOKIPREI .Greek Cypriots.
I'm consistently a supporter of Cyprus's independence and vehemently oppose the demotion of the Cypriots as nothing more than either Greeks or Turks.
Cypriot is what Im and Kalamaras is what I'm not . Greek Cypriot yes but not a Greek .

[EPSILON]

Epsilo is definitely a Greek ...hero !!! Shame he supports Turkey !!!

Supprting Turkey is when aa.you do not know who you are bb.not showing that invasion was an agreement between Junta of Athens and Turkey cc.not try to understand your mistakes dd.you do not know your enemy.

Generally you are supporting Turkey when you are just blind.

[EPSILON]

Enough of this Greek bashing. Greece today would throw all its might in defending Cyprus against the Turks. Realistically if you guys remember the reason the junta fell in Greece in 74 was because of the debacle created by it in Cyprus. Being handcuffed by a revolution and by its erosion in military power from 67-74 Greece at that time could not be effective..We Greek cypriots must let go of the bitterness we feel against the "Kalamarades" which they hate to hear. Prior to the junta taking over in 67 the Greek military under Papandreou had a fully armed Greek division on Cyprus, the Junta's first order of business was to remove this division. The Turks would have thought long and hard and in the end not invaded in 74 if the division was in place.. What i saw pre 74 while in school were fascistic propaganda from the junta school curiculum....Outsiders used the trickeries we taught them against us ....

This exactly are many Greek Cypriots problem. Because of internal propaganta they can not understand any difference between Greece/Greek Democracy and a Junta regime.This success of the certain propaganta will finally have worst results for ROC than the Turkish invasion.When i described what EOKA B "heroes" were actually doing during the invasion my target was to show exactly this difference.
And stop comparing EOKA with EOKA B. First was fighting against a foreigner second was fighting just against Greeks of Cyprus.

[miltiades]

Epsilo is definitely a Greek ...hero !!! Shame he supports Turkey !!!

Supprting Turkey is when aa.you do not know who you are bb.not showing that invasion was an agreement between Junta of Athens and Turkey cc.not try to understand your mistakes dd.you do not know your enemy.

Generally you are supporting Turkey when you are just blind.

Invasion was what ?
Man you do talk a load of scata .