wyoming cowboy wrote:To be perfectly honest here, Living in a society where all different races and ethnic groups reside relatively peacefully, here in the USA.Both Gc and Tc need to go a long way before the two sides can really start to come together. When i visited Cyprus last December and walking around in the cafes in Nicosia i saw no intermingling of GC with TC. big disappointment. Nothing will come out of any settlement if the two ethnic groups and their leaders do not want to have anything to do with the other.
NikosGB23 wrote:wyoming cowboy wrote:To be perfectly honest here, Living in a society where all different races and ethnic groups reside relatively peacefully, here in the USA.Both Gc and Tc need to go a long way before the two sides can really start to come together. When i visited Cyprus last December and walking around in the cafes in Nicosia i saw no intermingling of GC with TC. big disappointment. Nothing will come out of any settlement if the two ethnic groups and their leaders do not want to have anything to do with the other.
I beg to differ. have you seen the gang violence, kkk, and other sorts of ethnical group violence going on here?! thats probably one of the top reasons why the US is so dangerous
wyoming cowboy wrote:you have a wrong interpretation of the society in the USA, first of all gang violence whether its latin, or asian they mostly kill each other..as for the KKK not many just a few rednecks with a lot of time on their hands bullshit...NikosGB23 wrote:wyoming cowboy wrote:To be perfectly honest here, Living in a society where all different races and ethnic groups reside relatively peacefully, here in the USA.Both Gc and Tc need to go a long way before the two sides can really start to come together. When i visited Cyprus last December and walking around in the cafes in Nicosia i saw no intermingling of GC with TC. big disappointment. Nothing will come out of any settlement if the two ethnic groups and their leaders do not want to have anything to do with the other.
I beg to differ. have you seen the gang violence, kkk, and other sorts of ethnical group violence going on here?! thats probably one of the top reasons why the US is so dangerous
shahmaran wrote:Piratis wrote:shahmaran wrote:Piratis wrote:Viewpoint wrote:waldorf wrote:Paphitis, a year before 1974, I attended a pool party hosted by the UN at the Ledra Palace Hotel.
At some point, I had to go to the loo, and mistakenly entered an Office. The exact same map that you describe, was on the wall. Only after the 2nd Invasion, did I put 2 and 2 together.......
What did you expect in the face of enosis? counter action was taken which was prompted by the desire of the GCs to gift Cyprus to Greece.
Are you talking about this:During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.
The Cypriot people are free to unite their own island with whomever they want. Like we united with European Union.
But we never asked to unite with any Ottoman Empire or any Turks. So why you came here? The answer: To oppress and exploit us.
And then you want to blame us because we, like all other Greeks, wanted our freedom from foreign oppressors?
Wrong again!
The Greek Cypriot people, you claim, have a "right" to unite with whom ever you want, which you don't, because the island is not a Greek island, we live here too...
So you want to drag us into Greece do you?!
So what if you live here to? You are just an 18% minority. What is needed is the 50% + 1 vote.
In Turkey do they have to take the separate approval of the Greek or Kurdish minority in order to do what they want? I don't think so.
And we didn't "drag you into Greece". You came here as invaders. If you don't like it, then go back from where you came from.
Who cares about what goes on in Turkey?
Get over your 500 year old grudge Piratis, it is the stupidest argument you have ever managed to pull out of your backside and that is saying something
How we came to be on this island 500 years ago is totally irrelevant today and you know that very well, but if you insist then we can always claim that we took this island from the Venetians and not you, because you did not own shit until we gave it to you
So just to recap, NO Enosis is not your right and never was
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