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[yialousa1971]

S-500 coming in 2012

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MOSCOW - Russia will create a new generation of air and space defenses to counter any strikes against its territory by 2020 due to a potential foreign threat, the Air Force commander said on Tuesday.

"By 2030...foreign countries, particularly the United States, will be able to deliver coordinated high-precision strikes from air and space against any target on the whole territory of Russia," Col. Gen. Alexander Zelin said, referring to the potential for new hypersonic and space-based offensive weapons.

"That is why the main goal of the development of the Russian Air Force until 2020 is to create a new branch of the Armed Forces, which would form the core of the country's air and space defenses to provide a reliable deterrent during peacetime, and repel any military aggression with the use of conventional and nuclear arsenals in a time of war," the general said.

According to Zelin, all Russian Air Force units will be constantly combat-ready by 2020.

"We are planning to conduct a gradual transition of Air Force units to a constant combat-ready status...and accomplish this task by 2020," the commander said.

During this period, the Air Force will bring combat units to full strength, equip them with modernized and new weaponry, and significantly improve combat training of military pilots.

Zelin said under the new concept, air-space defense brigades will be created within Russia's Air Force, and they will be equipped with advanced S-400 and planned S-500 air defense systems.

"In line with the new air-space defense concept, we have already formed a number of brigades, which will be armed with S-400 and S-500 air defense systems," Zelin said at a news conference in Moscow.

The S-400 Triumf (SA-21 Growler) is designed to intercept and destroy airborne targets at a distance of up to 400 kilometers (250 miles), twice the range of the U.S. MIM-104 Patriot, and 2 1/2 times that of Russia's S-300PMU-2.

The S-500 is believed to be able to destroy stealth aircraft, cruise missiles and ballistic missiles, and is effective at ranges up to 3,500 kilometers (2,200 miles) and speeds up to 4.8 kilometers (3 miles) per second.
Russia's Defense Ministry considers the delivery of S-400 air defense missile systems to the Russian Armed Forces a priority, and wants the defense industry to increase the production of these systems despite the current economic crisis.

The fifth-generation S-500 air defense system, which is currently in the blueprint stage and is expected to be rolled out by 2012, would outperform the S-400 as well as the U.S. Patriot Advanced Capability-3 system.

"The S-500 system is being developed under a unique design...and will be capable of destroying hypersonic and ballistic targets," the general said.

Meanwhile, the Soviet-era MiG-31 Foxhound supersonic interceptor aircraft will most likely be used as part of the new air-space defense network, as was intended when it was designed.

"We are upgrading this system to be able to accomplish the same [air-space defense] tasks," Zelin said.

According to some sources, Russia has over 280 MiG-31 aircraft in active service and about 100 aircraft in reserve.

[Nikitas]

Acquiring advanced arms is a complicated process likened to an onion growing outwards. First you buy short range, then medium then long. If you opt for the most powerful you tend to step on toes, since your range extends deep into neighboring states' territory and we are not talking exclusively Turkey here.

Alternatively you can research and develop countermeasures on your own, but to do that you got to believe in yourself and your abilities. And I do not see much evidence of that in the GC military. It seems that they are happy to model the NG on Greek and American lines and very little else. Not the way to break out of the box and innovate.

[yialousa1971]

You have to be clever, the Russians will install it, lets see the Turks attack the Russians. In the meantime install the S400 system. Defence of Cyprus is the most important thing.

[Raymanoff]

F***ing wankers, thats what they are... whole economy based on oil/gas/arms export... the country rottens from inside out with no visible future improvements. They will sell S-500 and the next day they will sell S-600 to your enemy next door... all the care now is money. Turkey signed a document just a week ago to allow Russia to build undersea gas pipeline to Bulgaria which will be passing in Turkeys territorial waters. Again, because all they think is money and natural gas being much more profitable business they will do what Turkey asks them to...

Russia sucks dudes...

[CBBB]

Russia sucks dudes...

Who are these dudes that Russia is sucking?

[YFred]

You have to be clever, the Russians will install it, lets see the Turks attack the Russians. In the meantime install the S400 system. Defence of Cyprus is the most important thing.

You are as stupid as you sound. Install such weaponry and the Turks will take them out. It's you she will attack, not Russia. Have you learned nothing from past history? If you think EU will defend you come what may, you are in for a surprise.

[paliometoxo]

by 2030?!?! in 5000 years

[YFred]

by 2030?!?! in 5000 years

Palio, I know my maths is not that strong but you are squaring the circles and then converting them to pyramids.

[Nikitas]

Turkey will take out weapons bought by CYprus if Cyprus thinks and acts inside the conventional military mindset.

There are advances being tested now which cancel out the usefulness of systems like jets and tanks and these new weapons are low tech and purely defensive and not likely to be a problem.

Turkey objected to the S300 because their range extended deep into her territory. Turkey has not said a word about short and medium range missiles which cover the whole of Cyprus and which the National Guard has had for many years.

But to get back to the new systems like passive radar, undectable to HARM missiles, and which can "see" stealth planes, or "clever" antitanks munitions that can be fired from conventional artillery, these are the advances that Cyprus outght to be looking at but is not. Like I said above, we have attached ourselves to the traditional military thinking taught by Greece and the USA.

THe role of the NG is not to land on Turkish territory and such nonsense. The role of the NG is to be able to resist any Turkish advance from land, sea or air, and to be able to hold out for at least two weeks. The assumption is that during any such period there will be a blockade of Cyprus and no aid from any other country.

The blockade of Cyprus and the severing of links with other countries is a current scenario of Turkish exercises in the space between Rhodos and Paphos. As a counter to these scenarios Cyprus and Greece put up the "unitary defensive area" dogma which is total nonsense, since it presumes that there is the political will in Greece to turn any local clash into a conflict from Famagusta all the way to the Turkish-Greek-Bulgarian frontier and all points between. This scenario is credible in the case of a Greek_Turkish incident, but not in the case of a Cyprus-Turkish incident.

The one indicator that we are thinking out of the box would be the announcement of a military research organization in Cyprus. Till then we are stuck.

[cymart]

I can confirm what you wrote about Russia from personal experiences there but I still have some wonderful Russian friends and am sorry they live in such a corrupt and rotten country.....most of them admit it too,even if only in private...