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BANNED FROM SWIMMING FULLY CLOTHED !!!

Postby miltiades » Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:56 pm

As one who does not have much time for religious windbags I entirely agree with the the ban. In the heart of Europe in the 21st century some misguided individual wants to introduce her own rules in a public pool . Tough luck. Such religious exhibitionism makes a mockery of "GOD" , another proof of peoples brains indoctrinated and brutally raped.
Harsh , I dont think so !
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 793574.ece
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Re: BANNED FROM SWIMMING FULLY CLOTHED !!!

Postby YFred » Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:00 pm

miltiades wrote:As one who does not have much time for religious windbags I entirely agree with the the ban. In the heart of Europe in the 21st century some misguided individual wants to introduce her own rules in a public pool . Tough luck. Such religious exhibitionism makes a mockery of "GOD" , another proof of peoples brains indoctrinated and brutally raped.
Harsh , I dont think so !
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 793574.ece

Surely, if people wish do do that, they can be afforded that luxury, even if its controlled, either by location or time. You will not change people's minds by forcing them, particularly the muslim lot.
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Re: BANNED FROM SWIMMING FULLY CLOTHED !!!

Postby miltiades » Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:04 pm

YFred wrote:
miltiades wrote:As one who does not have much time for religious windbags I entirely agree with the the ban. In the heart of Europe in the 21st century some misguided individual wants to introduce her own rules in a public pool . Tough luck. Such religious exhibitionism makes a mockery of "GOD" , another proof of peoples brains indoctrinated and brutally raped.
Harsh , I dont think so !
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 793574.ece

Surely, if people wish do do that, they can be afforded that luxury, even if its controlled, either by location or time. You will not change people's minds by forcing them, particularly the muslim lot.

No one is forcing them Fred , just enforcing rules governing people entering swimming pools. Tough luck if they dont agree , go and do in Somalia , or the Middle East , not in Turkey though as its against the law !!
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Re: BANNED FROM SWIMMING FULLY CLOTHED !!!

Postby YFred » Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:07 pm

miltiades wrote:
YFred wrote:
miltiades wrote:As one who does not have much time for religious windbags I entirely agree with the the ban. In the heart of Europe in the 21st century some misguided individual wants to introduce her own rules in a public pool . Tough luck. Such religious exhibitionism makes a mockery of "GOD" , another proof of peoples brains indoctrinated and brutally raped.
Harsh , I dont think so !
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 793574.ece

Surely, if people wish do do that, they can be afforded that luxury, even if its controlled, either by location or time. You will not change people's minds by forcing them, particularly the muslim lot.

No one is forcing them Fred , just enforcing rules governing people entering swimming pools. Tough luck if they dont agree , go and do in Somalia , or the Middle East , not in Turkey though as its against the law !!

No old boy. This is in the EU. Customer is always right. If there are 100 swimming pools in Paris, what is wrong with allowing such a thing in say 2. I see no problem with that. By forcing people, you will not change their minds. I get this feeling that Cyprus Problem forum has lost you your compromising ability. :lol:
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Postby miltiades » Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:18 pm

Fred I will compromise with ideas and actions that one can logically compromise with.
Stupid and utterly archaic behaviour is not withing "my" realms of my understanding.
I happen to consider ALL religions malignant , the effects of such malignancy are evident all around us.
I find such exhibitionism in the name of religion as contemptuous and unnecessary.
Do bear in mind that in the "cradle" of Islam , Saudi Arabia , no other religion is tolerated , I see no reason why the French should put aside a couple of pools to accommodate fully clothed swimmers , naked swimmers , clad in boots only or wearing their vrakas and boines.
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Postby YFred » Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:23 pm

miltiades wrote:Fred I will compromise with ideas and actions that one can logically compromise with.
Stupid and utterly archaic behaviour is not withing "my" realms of my understanding.
I happen to consider ALL religions malignant , the effects of such malignancy are evident all around us.
I find such exhibitionism in the name of religion as contemptuous and unnecessary.
Do bear in mind that in the "cradle" of Islam , Saudi Arabia , no other religion is tolerated , I see no reason why the French should put aside a couple of pools to accommodate fully clothed swimmers , naked swimmers , clad in boots only or wearing their vrakas and boines.

I used to be agnostic atheist, but more recently I have mellowed down. I realise that no matter how ridicules the religious practice may be, if it gives comfort to those who believe in it, then its ok by me.
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Postby YFred » Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:24 pm

miltiades wrote:Fred I will compromise with ideas and actions that one can logically compromise with.
Stupid and utterly archaic behaviour is not withing "my" realms of my understanding.
I happen to consider ALL religions malignant , the effects of such malignancy are evident all around us.
I find such exhibitionism in the name of religion as contemptuous and unnecessary.
Do bear in mind that in the "cradle" of Islam , Saudi Arabia , no other religion is tolerated , I see no reason why the French should put aside a couple of pools to accommodate fully clothed swimmers , naked swimmers , clad in boots only or wearing their vrakas and boines.

So where will the Cypriot swim then? :lol: :lol:
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Postby CBBB » Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:25 pm

Much as I hate to admit this, I agree with YFronts. The woman was not imposing her views on anyone, just exercising her right to wear what she likes. I disagree entirely when dress code is imposed by the state, it should be up to the individual.
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Postby YFred » Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:36 pm

CBBB wrote:Much as I hate to admit this, I agree with YFronts. The woman was not imposing her views on anyone, just exercising her right to wear what she likes. I disagree entirely when dress code is imposed by the state, it should be up to the individual.

I am so glad you are up front with your thoughts, old boy.
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Postby miltiades » Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:49 pm

CBBB wrote:Much as I hate to admit this, I agree with YFronts. The woman was not imposing her views on anyone, just exercising her right to wear what she likes. I disagree entirely when dress code is imposed by the state, it should be up to the individual.

That's just it. She was not exercising her right to wear what she felt like at all. She was following a warped interpretation that says women must be covered from head to toe . Where do you see her " right to wear what she likes" On the contrary , she was wearing what has been drummed into her as her religious duty , nothing to do with freedom of choice or following fashion.
ps. I also condemn the acceptance in UK schools of a dress mode based on religion. I think its divisive , intrusive and does nothing to promote cohesion amongst the people of this country . Its " them and us " pronouncement that has no place in the UK in the 21st century.
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