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[bluelagoon33]

I THINK ITS DISCUSTING!! UN HHYGENIC!! INDESPICABLE!!!!

How can you waer you dirty , filty, shit staind cloths in the same pool you fmily is swimming in!!

Get a life or go back to your country you filthy mouslims.

[miltiades]

Such a dismissive response seems to make these women and their opinions every bit as invisible as the burka or in this case the burkini does.

The much-demonised garb is seen as a symbol of oppression, but oppression comes in many forms. Lots of British women say that they resent being gawped at just because they're wearing a miniskirt or a low-cut top.

Some Muslim women clearly feel oppressed by it, but then some clearly don't. To ban it is to remove women's choice, using oppression to combat oppression.

Rigid rules that make no allowance for personal choice are more suited to the Taleban than to one of Europe's great democracies.

I too don,t follow religion in any form BUT in many cases have respect for those that wish to.

In the end its down to choice, take away the muslim womens choice or necessity to wear the 'uniform' of her religion and she is then forever a prisoner in her home. That cannot be right either. Do we all think that the 21st centuries choice of 'the lets wear as little as possible' is always good? Maybe or maybe not, but it is their choice and no-one stops them, niether should they.

If the thought of Islam is what is bothering most and in the end what makes these women dress as they do by choice or not, to be hounded/killed in their own countries or not, then instead of going for the weak part of this oppressive religion go after the very MEN that make it.

Cause it certainly is,nt the women Give the women a break.

Milo the question here was whether the French pool administrators were correct in insisting on their code of dress being followed.
The fact that Muslim women are "forced" to dress they way that they do is not being questioned. I say forced because frankly who would be having breakfast while wearing the veil and having to lift over her mouth to feed herself , an event I witnessed bemused a few years back. Their dress sense is dictated by archaic dated religious nonsense , I respect their right to dress as they like its their business but I reserve my right to be amused at the absurdity of such medieval paraphernalia .

[Bravecat]

I THINK ITS DISCUSTING!! UN HHYGENIC!! INDESPICABLE!!!!

How can you waer you dirty , filty, shit staind cloths in the same pool you fmily is swimming in!!

Get a life or go back to your country you filthy mouslims.

Wow that is beyond rude.

[Milo]

Such a dismissive response seems to make these women and their opinions every bit as invisible as the burka or in this case the burkini does.

The much-demonised garb is seen as a symbol of oppression, but oppression comes in many forms. Lots of British women say that they resent being gawped at just because they're wearing a miniskirt or a low-cut top.

Some Muslim women clearly feel oppressed by it, but then some clearly don't. To ban it is to remove women's choice, using oppression to combat oppression.

Rigid rules that make no allowance for personal choice are more suited to the Taleban than to one of Europe's great democracies.

I too don,t follow religion in any form BUT in many cases have respect for those that wish to.

In the end its down to choice, take away the muslim womens choice or necessity to wear the 'uniform' of her religion and she is then forever a prisoner in her home. That cannot be right either. Do we all think that the 21st centuries choice of 'the lets wear as little as possible' is always good? Maybe or maybe not, but it is their choice and no-one stops them, niether should they.

If the thought of Islam is what is bothering most and in the end what makes these women dress as they do by choice or not, to be hounded/killed in their own countries or not, then instead of going for the weak part of this oppressive religion go after the very MEN that make it.

Cause it certainly is,nt the women Give the women a break.

Milo the question here was whether the French pool administrators were correct in insisting on their code of dress being followed.
The fact that Muslim women are "forced" to dress they way that they do is not being questioned. I say forced because frankly who would be having breakfast while wearing the veil and having to lift over her mouth to feed herself , an event I witnessed bemused a few years back. Their dress sense is dictated by archaic dated religious nonsense , I respect their right to dress as they like its their business but I reserve my right to be amused at the absurdity of such medieval paraphernalia .

Maybe correct in the laws of the Pool, but this was her third visit before she was banned, France has decided its 5 million muslim population is to be ostracized and although I suspected that one day this would happen (France has the biggest population of Muslims in Europe) my arguement is why pick on the women of this religion, its the mullahs and the men who make the laws, not the women, so leave the women out of it and ban the religion itself. Islamic women are the weakest part of the whole religion they if any should be supported BUT many women mostly converts will take a stance and push boundaries on what they wish to wear, mind you her cries on 'this is segregation' would be a lot dimmer if she where living in Saudi, in fact she would,nt be heard for long.

I believe that women who follow Islam by choice without the oppression of men, and I know some that do, will always want to cover up as they feel actually freer. I know this is only a minority and the rest are oppressed or fearful not to cover up. But some Islamic woman wear the Burqa/Hijab etc with pride.

The actual Burkhini is a islamic swimsuit designed for swimming only and not street clothes as some believe, its designer a Lebanese Aurstalian women is selling thousands. It is now quite commonly seen on the beaches in Oz. As for hygiene well an open sore is not covered in trad swimming costumes nor is a cough and a spit in the water, all these things in a communal Pool are taken care of by chemicals daily. Its all political imho and little to do with Pool rules.

Actually making men wear speedos would keep me away from that swimming Pool cause they are 'orrible Much prefer the flowered surf shorts.

[bluelagoon33]

WHATS MORE RUDE??

ME protecting myself and family from germs or those people who come to the pool wearing there cloths they had just slept inn??

BrAVECAT....what planet you live on???

[baby-come-fly-with-me]

Forget hygiene and what it is they actualy believe they have to wear.
If they want to live in a country then they have to respect the laws of the country and if it means they cant go swimming fully clothed then thats it they cant.
however in their own country if its allowed, then run along.
otherwise, say yes to the lot after all its a RELIGION THING, let them take over where ever they want...mmmmm!!! i dont think so

[Robin Hood]

Taking up the cudgel in defence of the right of fundamental freedom and individual human right to dress as they wish.......

Ban the Burka and introduce Sharia law?

I think it is an infringement of a Muslim woman’s fundamental civil rights to try to ban the Burka. After all, it is only an item of clothing and is no more offensive than ‘hoodies’, kilts, nun’s habit etc.

However, being a staunch supporter of ‘elf and safety, we should introduce HSE rules to protect the general public, as the Burka wearer presents a hazard, particularly at night. Therefore, I would suggest that:

• The person wearing the Burka should be ‘microchipped’ so that they can be identified without causing offence by police officers actually having to look at the wearer to check identity.
• The Burka should be covered on the top half of the body with a high visibility reflective jacket.
• The microchip would store a registration number, which in turn should be displayed at shoulder height, over the reflective jacket, as number plates, black on white at the front and black on yellow at the rear. The colour would enable the observer to tell whether the wearer was coming or going.
• At night, the Burka wearer should display two white lights to the front and two red lights to the rear when moving on a pedestrian walkway or when crossing a road.
• Orange directional flashing indicators should be compulsory on both left and right sides.
• An audible device saying ‘excuse me’ in English, Arabic, Urdo, Somalli, Afghanistani, Pakistani, Polish, Chinese, Vietnamese and Greek etc. should be used to avoid collisions with other pavement users.

I feel this would remove any suggestion that the any western non-muslim government is not serious about civil liberty and human rights of ethnic minority groups.

I also support fully the call for the introduction of Sharia Law into western society............

When the law of the Land is broken and the offender taken to Court, they should be able to take the oath either on The Bible or The Koran. When passing sentence the choice of Holy book should determine the punishment. For example, shop lifting could have a sentence of 40 hours community service or the removal of one hand and one foot on opposite sides, depending upon your choice of Holy Book for the Oath!!!

[Oracle]

Taking up the cudgel in defence of the right of fundamental freedom and individual human right to dress as they wish.......

Ban the Burka and introduce Sharia law?

I think it is an infringement of a Muslim woman’s fundamental civil rights to try to ban the Burka. After all, it is only an item of clothing and is no more offensive than ‘hoodies’, kilts, nun’s habit etc.

However, being a staunch supporter of ‘elf and safety, we should introduce HSE rules to protect the general public, as the Burka wearer presents a hazard, particularly at night. Therefore, I would suggest that:

• The person wearing the Burka should be ‘microchipped’ so that they can be identified without causing offence by police officers actually having to look at the wearer to check identity.
• The Burka should be covered on the top half of the body with a high visibility reflective jacket.
• The microchip would store a registration number, which in turn should be displayed at shoulder height, over the reflective jacket, as number plates, black on white at the front and black on yellow at the rear. The colour would enable the observer to tell whether the wearer was coming or going.
• At night, the Burka wearer should display two white lights to the front and two red lights to the rear when moving on a pedestrian walkway or when crossing a road.
• Orange directional flashing indicators should be compulsory on both left and right sides.
• An audible device saying ‘excuse me’ in English, Arabic, Urdo, Somalli, Afghanistani, Pakistani, Polish, Chinese, Vietnamese and Greek etc. should be used to avoid collisions with other pavement users.

I feel this would remove any suggestion that the any western non-muslim government is not serious about civil liberty and human rights of ethnic minority groups.

I also support fully the call for the introduction of Sharia Law into western society............

When the law of the Land is broken and the offender taken to Court, they should be able to take the oath either on The Bible or The Koran. When passing sentence the choice of Holy book should determine the punishment. For example, shop lifting could have a sentence of 40 hours community service or the removal of one hand and one foot on opposite sides, depending upon your choice of Holy Book for the Oath!!!

Brilliant post ...

[Free Spirit]

Milo the question here was whether the French pool administrators were correct in insisting on their code of dress being followed.
The fact that Muslim women are "forced" to dress they way that they do is not being questioned. I say forced because frankly who would be having breakfast while wearing the veil and having to lift over her mouth to feed herself , an event I witnessed bemused a few years back. Their dress sense is dictated by archaic dated religious nonsense , I respect their right to dress as they like its their business but I reserve my right to be amused at the absurdity of such medieval paraphernalia .

Maybe correct in the laws of the Pool, but this was her third visit before she was banned, France has decided its 5 million muslim population is to be ostracized and although I suspected that one day this would happen (France has the biggest population of Muslims in Europe) my arguement is why pick on the women of this religion, its the mullahs and the men who make the laws, not the women, so leave the women out of it and ban the religion itself. Islamic women are the weakest part of the whole religion they if any should be supported BUT many women mostly converts will take a stance and push boundaries on what they wish to wear, mind you her cries on 'this is segregation' would be a lot dimmer if she where living in Saudi, in fact she would,nt be heard for long.

I believe that women who follow Islam by choice without the oppression of men, and I know some that do, will always want to cover up as they feel actually freer. I know this is only a minority and the rest are oppressed or fearful not to cover up. But some Islamic woman wear the Burqa/Hijab etc with pride.:[/quote

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And this just goes to show what a load of medaeval garbage islam is; women being forced to wear what the Paedophile husband of a 9 year old child dictated.
I've no sympathy with muslim women if they allow smelly old perverts to dictate how they dress.

[Talisker]

Visiting a public open air swimming pool in France a couple of years ago I was not allowed to wear my normal 'shorts-style' swimming trunks, but had to squeeze into a pair of miniscule speedo trunks (think dental floss) kindly donated by the attendants. So, the French do have their standards, particularly associated with swimming etiquette, and normally associated with requirement to reveal as much flesh as possible. Not a problem with a body like mine!

Therefore, IMHO, the French are not being hypocritical in their banning of this Muslim swimwear.