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Postby CBBB » Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:53 pm

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CBBB wrote:Much as I hate to admit this, I agree with YFronts. The woman was not imposing her views on anyone, just exercising her right to wear what she likes. I disagree entirely when dress code is imposed by the state, it should be up to the individual.

That's just it. She was not exercising her right to wear what she felt like at all. She was following a warped interpretation that says women must be covered from head to toe . Where do you see her " right to wear what she likes" On the contrary , she was wearing what has been drummed into her as her religious duty , nothing to do with freedom of choice or following fashion.


It is the same as you or me wearing a wedding ring. It is a custom that has been drummed into us, it doesn't mean we should be prohibited from doing it.
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Postby miltiades » Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:08 pm

CBBB wrote:
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CBBB wrote:Much as I hate to admit this, I agree with YFronts. The woman was not imposing her views on anyone, just exercising her right to wear what she likes. I disagree entirely when dress code is imposed by the state, it should be up to the individual.

That's just it. She was not exercising her right to wear what she felt like at all. She was following a warped interpretation that says women must be covered from head to toe . Where do you see her " right to wear what she likes" On the contrary , she was wearing what has been drummed into her as her religious duty , nothing to do with freedom of choice or following fashion.


It is the same as you or me wearing a wedding ring. It is a custom that has been drummed into us, it doesn't mean we should be prohibited from doing it.

Sorry mate but your analogy doesnt stand up at all !
Its like saying that these women are dressing to please themselves just as my wife and yours do !!
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Wearing a ring has no religious connotations , I do not wear one anyway , the essence of wearing clothing covering your body from head to toe its not a matter of choice it is a matter of HAVING TOO !!
In Afghanistan a woman will face the death penalty for wearing a ...mini skirt for god sake !!
The rudiments for the French banning this woman are straight forward. This a pool and has a code of dress. Men may not enter wearing shorts and women may not enter fully clothed.
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Postby Bravecat » Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:23 pm

I have just returned from the Middle East, and as much as I would like to claim I am a liberal (as in live and let live), I think I agree with Miltiades on this one. Those women are not free to wear what they like, even though that's what they claim. They are not free to wear anything other than what they think is Islamically correct, despite the fact that nowhere in Qur'an does it say that a woman should cover head to toe. As for the French pool - rules are rules. No baggy clothes, no burqinis, no bermuda shorts - so why should the woman in burqini get special treatment? I am with the authorities on that one.
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:32 am

Another good news from the French!

The other day I saw an Arab ninja walking down Taksim square, under intense heat, covered from head to toe except her eyes and was trying to eat an ice cream.

I caught her in one of the funniest moments when she was stuck in between licking this melting dripping ice-cream and trying to keep her face covered at the same time.

That moment alone explains it ALL and I wish I had a camera, what a contradiction and what an absolute idiot, I thought to myself :lol:

Why would God want to put anyone through such torture, don't they ever wonder? :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:40 am

Vive La France ... :)
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Postby kafenes » Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:45 am

Re Milti, I hear they're going to ban swimmers wearing socks on Cyprus beaches. Pass this on to you know who. :)
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Postby yialousa1971 » Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:24 am

Maybe shes trying to go for a swim/bath at the same time.
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Postby umit07 » Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:21 am


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Postby Raymanoff » Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:31 am

try opening a bottle of Beer on the streets of QATAR or OMAN :D
BUt, Europeans obey their rules but when it comes Muslims in Europe - such an "incident" becomes so widespread.
Democracy sucks, please bring back some communism and dictatorship...is not that bad after all :D
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Postby Milo » Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:59 am

Such a dismissive response seems to make these women and their opinions every bit as invisible as the burka or in this case the burkini does.

The much-demonised garb is seen as a symbol of oppression, but oppression comes in many forms. Lots of British women say that they resent being gawped at just because they're wearing a miniskirt or a low-cut top.

Some Muslim women clearly feel oppressed by it, but then some clearly don't. To ban it is to remove women's choice, using oppression to combat oppression.

Rigid rules that make no allowance for personal choice are more suited to the Taleban than to one of Europe's great democracies.

I too don,t follow religion in any form BUT in many cases have respect for those that wish to.

In the end its down to choice, take away the muslim womens choice or necessity to wear the 'uniform' of her religion and she is then forever a prisoner in her home. That cannot be right either. Do we all think that the 21st centuries choice of 'the lets wear as little as possible' is always good? Maybe or maybe not, but it is their choice and no-one stops them, niether should they.

If the thought of Islam is what is bothering most and in the end what makes these women dress as they do by choice or not, to be hounded/killed in their own countries or not, then instead of going for the weak part of this oppressive religion go after the very MEN that make it.

Cause it certainly is,nt the women :shock: Give the women a break.
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