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[YFred]

There will be further and far more ferocious attacks perpetrated by those entrusted by Turkey to subdue the voices of the T/Cs and to accentuate the ongoing process of annexation of the northern part of Cyprus and the "decimation" of the T/Cs . I,m surprised that Turkey's latest " annexation" process has not met with any significant reaction either by the T/Cs or the G/Cs.
It is as clear to me as day and night that Turkey has embarked on the road towards annexation and eradication of the Turkish Cypriots .

You are pre-judging the situation without the facts. It will soon be apparent if Turkey is behind these attempts or whether they approve of them.
Who was it that was saying that TCs are extinct in the north. If that is the case, why the attack?

[miltiades]

There will be further and far more ferocious attacks perpetrated by those entrusted by Turkey to subdue the voices of the T/Cs and to accentuate the ongoing process of annexation of the northern part of Cyprus and the "decimation" of the T/Cs . I,m surprised that Turkey's latest " annexation" process has not met with any significant reaction either by the T/Cs or the G/Cs.
It is as clear to me as day and night that Turkey has embarked on the road towards annexation and eradication of the Turkish Cypriots .

You are pre-judging the situation without the facts. It will soon be apparent if Turkey is behind these attempts or whether they approve of them.
Who was it that was saying that TCs are extinct in the north. If that is the case, why the attack?

Fred there comes a time when realities staring you in the face must be considered. Why do you think the term Turkish Cypriot has been repudiated by the " authorities" .
Why do you think that Turkeys introduction of Turkish school curriculum into T/C schools has happened and why is it that from now on there are Only Turks of Cyprus.
Wake up Fred , Turkey is swallowing you all up , it is her plan to overcome EU objections as a result of the Cyprus problem.
She has decided that one way to resolve the problem and remove European objections based on the Cyprus issue is to annex the occupied part.
Turkey is behind the attack , Turkey is the sole controlling body in the occupied parts and you must know this.
What next you may ask ? Wait and see .

[bigOz]

The Turkish Cypriots must resist the efforts to exterminate them .
It is a well known fact the the mainland Turks do not like T/Cs and visa verse..
The T/Cs are an integral part of this island where the mainland Turks are not.

The TCs have been resisiting such efforts by EOKA for many decades, now not only do we have the GC efforts, but the majority of the population in North Cyprus trying to exterminate the TC ID!

But why is this news to everyone? Have I not being saying time and time again over the past one year, if the GCs do not stop making impossible demands for a solution - soon thay will have no TCs left to negotiate with and will have to deal with the mainland Turks who have displaced the TCs and settled in the North...

As they say in our village: You harvest whatever you plant - meaning there is no point in crying for bananas when you decided to plant cactus trees in your garden!

Just carry on arguing about who Cyprus really belongs to for teh next decade, and I doubt there will be any TCs left even in this forum to argue with!

[miltiades]

The Turkish Cypriots must resist the efforts to exterminate them .
It is a well known fact the the mainland Turks do not like T/Cs and visa verse..
The T/Cs are an integral part of this island where the mainland Turks are not.

The TCs have been resisiting such efforts by EOKA for many decades, now not only do we have the GC efforts, but the majority of the population in North Cyprus trying to exterminate the TC ID!

But why is this news to everyone? Have I not being saying time and time again over the past one year, if the GCs do not stop making impossible demands for a solution - soon thay will have no TCs left to negotiate with and will have to deal with the mainland Turks who have displaced the TCs and settled in the North...

As they say in our village: You harvest whatever you plant - meaning there is no point in crying for bananas when you decided to plant cactus trees in your garden!

Just carry on arguing about who Cyprus really belongs to for teh next decade, and I doubt there will be any TCs left even in this forum to argue with!

Which in your opinion is the unreasonable demand that the G/Cs are making. As far as I can see Turkeys insistence in legalizing her presence in Cyprus is by far the biggest obstacle. She knows bloody well that no agreement will ever be accepted by the majority of the Cypriot people that bestows on her the right of intervention.
She is fully aware with this and yet she insists knowing full well that all that she wants is annexation , not partition but annexation. The partition has been tried and it has failed , she now wants to see what annexation can bring. What ever happens the future of the T/Cs is in jeopardy by the same people who reputedly came to Cyprus to preserve them !!

[bigOz]

The Turkish Cypriots must resist the efforts to exterminate them .
It is a well known fact the the mainland Turks do not like T/Cs and visa verse..
The T/Cs are an integral part of this island where the mainland Turks are not.

The TCs have been resisiting such efforts by EOKA for many decades, now not only do we have the GC efforts, but the majority of the population in North Cyprus trying to exterminate the TC ID!

But why is this news to everyone? Have I not being saying time and time again over the past one year, if the GCs do not stop making impossible demands for a solution - soon thay will have no TCs left to negotiate with and will have to deal with the mainland Turks who have displaced the TCs and settled in the North...

As they say in our village: You harvest whatever you plant - meaning there is no point in crying for bananas when you decided to plant cactus trees in your garden!

Just carry on arguing about who Cyprus really belongs to for teh next decade, and I doubt there will be any TCs left even in this forum to argue with!

Which in your opinion is the unreasonable demand that the G/Cs are making. As far as I can see Turkeys insistence in legalizing her presence in Cyprus is by far the biggest obstacle. She knows bloody well that no agreement will ever be accepted by the majority of the Cypriot people that bestows on her the right of intervention.
She is fully aware with this and yet she insists knowing full well that all that she wants is annexation , not partition but annexation. The partition has been tried and it has failed , she now wants to see what annexation can bring. What ever happens the future of the T/Cs is in jeopardy by the same people who reputedly came to Cyprus to preserve them !!

Why are the GCs so blind to see that the economic and poletical embargo we have been suffering over many decades has pushed us into the arms of Turkey! Why can't you see that because of the economic pressures there are now more TCs living abroad than in Cyprus!

And they have all been replaced by mainland manual workers whose children have now moved to the ranks of government members, or by clans who are buying / building hotels, casinos, businesses in N. Cyprus!

If I was a GC poletician, realising this, I would withdraw all embargoes against the TCs in the north to allow them to gain their economic independence until we are both EU members - after which there will be no real borders or restrictions between the two anyway - instead of sensation seeeking court cases in Europe about the Greek land left in the North...

However I have a strong feeling it is even too late for that now!

[YFred]

The Turkish Cypriots must resist the efforts to exterminate them .
It is a well known fact the the mainland Turks do not like T/Cs and visa verse..
The T/Cs are an integral part of this island where the mainland Turks are not.

The TCs have been resisiting such efforts by EOKA for many decades, now not only do we have the GC efforts, but the majority of the population in North Cyprus trying to exterminate the TC ID!

But why is this news to everyone? Have I not being saying time and time again over the past one year, if the GCs do not stop making impossible demands for a solution - soon thay will have no TCs left to negotiate with and will have to deal with the mainland Turks who have displaced the TCs and settled in the North...

As they say in our village: You harvest whatever you plant - meaning there is no point in crying for bananas when you decided to plant cactus trees in your garden!

Just carry on arguing about who Cyprus really belongs to for teh next decade, and I doubt there will be any TCs left even in this forum to argue with!

Which in your opinion is the unreasonable demand that the G/Cs are making. As far as I can see Turkeys insistence in legalizing her presence in Cyprus is by far the biggest obstacle. She knows bloody well that no agreement will ever be accepted by the majority of the Cypriot people that bestows on her the right of intervention.
She is fully aware with this and yet she insists knowing full well that all that she wants is annexation , not partition but annexation. The partition has been tried and it has failed , she now wants to see what annexation can bring. What ever happens the future of the T/Cs is in jeopardy by the same people who reputedly came to Cyprus to preserve them !!

Why are the GCs so blind to see that the economic and poletical embargo we have been suffering over many decades has pushed us into the arms of Turkey! Why can't you see that because of the economic pressures there are now more TCs living abroad than in Cyprus!

And they have all been replaced by mainland manual workers whose children have now moved to the ranks of government members, or by clans who are buying / building hotels, casinos, businesses in N. Cyprus!

If I was a GC poletician, realising this, I would withdraw all embargoes against the TCs in the north to allow them to gain their economic independence until we are both EU members - after which there will be no real borders or restrictions between the two anyway - instead of sensation seeeking court cases in Europe about the Greek land left in the North...

However I have a strong feeling it is even too late for that now!

I am afraid your pleadings will fall on deaf ears with our GC friends. Not only that, but they are forcing the TCs to trade with Turkey. The GCs are the best recruiting agents for Annexation.

[miltiades]

The Turkish Cypriots must resist the efforts to exterminate them .
It is a well known fact the the mainland Turks do not like T/Cs and visa verse..
The T/Cs are an integral part of this island where the mainland Turks are not.

The TCs have been resisiting such efforts by EOKA for many decades, now not only do we have the GC efforts, but the majority of the population in North Cyprus trying to exterminate the TC ID!

But why is this news to everyone? Have I not being saying time and time again over the past one year, if the GCs do not stop making impossible demands for a solution - soon thay will have no TCs left to negotiate with and will have to deal with the mainland Turks who have displaced the TCs and settled in the North...

As they say in our village: You harvest whatever you plant - meaning there is no point in crying for bananas when you decided to plant cactus trees in your garden!

Just carry on arguing about who Cyprus really belongs to for teh next decade, and I doubt there will be any TCs left even in this forum to argue with!

Which in your opinion is the unreasonable demand that the G/Cs are making. As far as I can see Turkeys insistence in legalizing her presence in Cyprus is by far the biggest obstacle. She knows bloody well that no agreement will ever be accepted by the majority of the Cypriot people that bestows on her the right of intervention.
She is fully aware with this and yet she insists knowing full well that all that she wants is annexation , not partition but annexation. The partition has been tried and it has failed , she now wants to see what annexation can bring. What ever happens the future of the T/Cs is in jeopardy by the same people who reputedly came to Cyprus to preserve them !!

Why are the GCs so blind to see that the economic and poletical embargo we have been suffering over many decades has pushed us into the arms of Turkey! Why can't you see that because of the economic pressures there are now more TCs living abroad than in Cyprus!

And they have all been replaced by mainland manual workers whose children have now moved to the ranks of government members, or by clans who are buying / building hotels, casinos, businesses in N. Cyprus!

If I was a GC poletician, realising this, I would withdraw all embargoes against the TCs in the north to allow them to gain their economic independence until we are both EU members - after which there will be no real borders or restrictions between the two anyway - instead of sensation seeeking court cases in Europe about the Greek land left in the North...

However I have a strong feeling it is even too late for that now!

In other words the G/Cs ought to have recognized the "trnc" , accept that their ancestral homes , cities and villages were no longer theirs , assist the northern occupied part to become economically viable and accept that Turkeys invasion was one of a peaceful intervention !!!
My dear Oz , you have to have empathy for the 170 or thousands of G/Cs whose homes have been seized with force and a substantial number of their properties sold to greedy , unsophisticated British yobs.
I dont think so. The entire world agrees with the reality of the northern part of Cyprus being under Turkish occupation. T/Cs , a large number also agree and more will do so as they begin to feel the constrains on their freedom imposed by Turkey. Religious lessons now , no more T/Cs , do you think the T/Cs will accept their forced demise without a challenge? I dont.

[humanist]

YFred

GCs are increasingly open and tolerant. Now that is funny

!

the number of TC's crossing each day to work in the free areas, the number of TC number plates seen around the Free area of Cyprus, the number of TCs seeking health care in the free area of Cyprus speak for themselves about the tolerance and acceptance of TC's.

it would appear to me that TC's would better off in a BBF with the GC"s and maintain what's left of their numbers and cultural identity than signing over Cyprus to Turkey.

But you go on a delude yourselves and support Turkey till your end arrives

[YFred]

YFred

GCs are increasingly open and tolerant. Now that is funny

!

the number of TC's crossing each day to work in the free areas, the number of TC number plates seen around the Free area of Cyprus, the number of TCs seeking health care in the free area of Cyprus speak for themselves about the tolerance and acceptance of TC's.

it would appear to me that TC's would better off in a BBF with the GC"s and maintain what's left of their numbers and cultural identity than signing over Cyprus to Turkey.

But you go on a delude yourselves and support Turkey till your end arrives

You are mistaking tolerance with obligation under the EU. The two are not the same. If the GC side were tolerant instead of all or nothing mentality, we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place. The three choices were always there for the TCs and after December they will make it. We are prepared for all eventualities, what ever they may be.

[The Cypriot]

Why are the GCs so blind to see that the economic and poletical embargo we have been suffering over many decades has pushed us into the arms of Turkey! Why can't you see that because of the economic pressures there are now more TCs living abroad than in Cyprus!

And they have all been replaced by mainland manual workers whose children have now moved to the ranks of government members, or by clans who are buying / building hotels, casinos, businesses in N. Cyprus!

If I was a GC poletician, realising this, I would withdraw all embargoes against the TCs in the north to allow them to gain their economic independence until we are both EU members - after which there will be no real borders or restrictions between the two anyway - instead of sensation seeeking court cases in Europe about the Greek land left in the North...

Legitimise the division of the island to prevent the illegal annexation of the north by Turkey. Hmmm... Let's give that one some thought.