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Re: Sorry but NO!!!!

Postby lioness 2 » Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:15 pm

cymart wrote:Two wrongs never made a right...don't tell me you would be willing to open the trap door and be the executioner too,would you????
No exceptions-killing people is wrong and NOBODY has the right to do it and take away life from someone else!


For certain crimes (i.e. murder) - Yes I would be willing to open the trapdoor and be the executioner - Why keep the these things alive most living in comfort, while the victims family have to live the rest of their lives with the knowledge that the person who done this is still breathing. Thats my opinion and you have yours.
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So you would be prepared to commit murder?

Postby cymart » Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:48 pm

What gives you the right to think you have been born in this life to play the role of God???
Maybe your desire for revenge is due to bad karma from a previous life?
Sorry if I offended you but think about it!
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Re: So you would be prepared to commit murder?

Postby Get Real! » Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:23 pm

cymart wrote:Maybe your desire for revenge is due to bad karma from a previous life?

If you believe in reincarnation, then why are you so worried about a life being taken if it’s going to come back? :?
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Re: So you would be prepared to commit murder?

Postby lioness 2 » Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:34 pm

Get Real! wrote:
cymart wrote:Maybe your desire for revenge is due to bad karma from a previous life?

If you believe in reincarnation, then why are you so worried about a life being taken if it’s going to come back? :?


Good answer Get Real - Answer that then Cymart. Also don't believe in all that crap (previous life) you are born then you die and if more people believed this then perhaps they would do more good in the life they have instead of thinking they can put it right next time.
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Re: So you would be prepared to commit murder?

Postby lioness 2 » Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:35 pm

Get Real! wrote:
cymart wrote:Maybe your desire for revenge is due to bad karma from a previous life?

If you believe in reincarnation, then why are you so worried about a life being taken if it’s going to come back? :?


Good answer Get Real - Answer that then Cymart. Also don't believe in all that crap (previous life) you are born then you die and if more people believed this then perhaps they would do more good in the life they have instead of thinking they can put it right next time.
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Postby Talisker » Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:56 pm

cyprusgeoff wrote:Image

These objects of shit only deserve the most painful and lingering death that man has ever invented.

I am in no way excusing the dreadful actions of these individuals, but they themselves have grown up within the lowest levels of society, and it could be argued are the consequences (I daren't use the word 'victims') of the hugely unequal society that exists today. They probably have never been properly taught the difference between right or wrong, or good or evil, their minds were probably addled with drink or drugs, and the social expectations within this underclass (with which few of us have any real knowledge, familiarity or understanding) are entirely different to the rest of us.

I am not in favour of capital punishment. In our western societies we have the money and knowledge to improve opportunities and education, and improve the standard of living for the underclasses - we just choose not to do this, and use our prosperity in different ways (military spending, shoring up our financial insitutions, etc). They should serve their jail terms - I'm sure it will not be a pleasant experience for them. I don't believe they will be given new identities in another country. I hope efforts are made to educate and rehabilitate them, and make them aware of the evil nature of their actions, although I fear our prison service in the UK doesn't place this as a high priority.
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Postby cyprusgrump » Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:05 pm

Talisker wrote:
cyprusgeoff wrote:Image

These objects of shit only deserve the most painful and lingering death that man has ever invented.

I am in no way excusing the dreadful actions of these individuals, but they themselves have grown up within the lowest levels of society, and it could be argued are the consequences (I daren't use the word 'victims') of the hugely unequal society that exists today. They probably have never been properly taught the difference between right or wrong, or good or evil, their minds were probably addled with drink or drugs, and the social expectations within this underclass (with which few of us have any real knowledge, familiarity or understanding) are entirely different to the rest of us.

I am not in favour of capital punishment. In our western societies we have the money and knowledge to improve opportunities and education, and improve the standard of living for the underclasses - we just choose not to do this, and use our prosperity in different ways (military spending, shoring up our financial insitutions, etc). They should serve their jail terms - I'm sure it will not be a pleasant experience for them. I don't believe they will be given new identities in another country. I hope efforts are made to educate and rehabilitate them, and make them aware of the evil nature of their actions, although I fear our prison service in the UK doesn't place this as a high priority.

Oh please! :x

Don't give me the old 'don't know the difference between right and wrong' argument!

Hang them. :evil:
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Postby lioness 2 » Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:40 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Talisker wrote:
cyprusgeoff wrote:Image

These objects of shit only deserve the most painful and lingering death that man has ever invented.

I am in no way excusing the dreadful actions of these individuals, but they themselves have grown up within the lowest levels of society, and it could be argued are the consequences (I daren't use the word 'victims') of the hugely unequal society that exists today. They probably have never been properly taught the difference between right or wrong, or good or evil, their minds were probably addled with drink or drugs, and the social expectations within this underclass (with which few of us have any real knowledge, familiarity or understanding) are entirely different to the rest of us.

I am not in favour of capital punishment. In our western societies we have the money and knowledge to improve opportunities and education, and improve the standard of living for the underclasses - we just choose not to do this, and use our prosperity in different ways (military spending, shoring up our financial insitutions, etc). They should serve their jail terms - I'm sure it will not be a pleasant experience for them. I don't believe they will be given new identities in another country. I hope efforts are made to educate and rehabilitate them, and make them aware of the evil nature of their actions, although I fear our prison service in the UK doesn't place this as a high priority.

Oh please! :x

Don't give me the old 'don't know the difference between right and wrong' argument!

Hang them. :evil:


Thank Goodness - Someone with some sense at last.
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Postby Talisker » Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:40 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Talisker wrote:
cyprusgeoff wrote:Image

These objects of shit only deserve the most painful and lingering death that man has ever invented.

I am in no way excusing the dreadful actions of these individuals, but they themselves have grown up within the lowest levels of society, and it could be argued are the consequences (I daren't use the word 'victims') of the hugely unequal society that exists today. They probably have never been properly taught the difference between right or wrong, or good or evil, their minds were probably addled with drink or drugs, and the social expectations within this underclass (with which few of us have any real knowledge, familiarity or understanding) are entirely different to the rest of us.

I am not in favour of capital punishment. In our western societies we have the money and knowledge to improve opportunities and education, and improve the standard of living for the underclasses - we just choose not to do this, and use our prosperity in different ways (military spending, shoring up our financial insitutions, etc). They should serve their jail terms - I'm sure it will not be a pleasant experience for them. I don't believe they will be given new identities in another country. I hope efforts are made to educate and rehabilitate them, and make them aware of the evil nature of their actions, although I fear our prison service in the UK doesn't place this as a high priority.

Oh please! :x

Don't give me the old 'don't know the difference between right and wrong' argument!

Hang them. :evil:

I'm guessing you're a Daily Mail reader. :roll: I'd imagine you have no idea of social underclass, drug-fuelled societies, common practice of child abuse. To deny it exists is irresponsible in my view, perpetuates the problem, and therefore contributes to the next Baby P-like death. Will a few hangings cure societies ills, of which this one tragic death is but a single symptom? I think not.

This poor baby died as the result of prolonged abuse. Which was worse, the first time the baby was slammed against the wall, or kicked or whatever, or the one that finally killed? It has been acknowledged the social services system was at fault, the signs of abuse were there and the baby should have been taken into care. They were allowed to behave in this barbaric manner too long, hence the death. They progressed from being abusers to murderers. This could, and should, have been prevented.
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Postby lioness 2 » Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:46 pm

Talisker wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Talisker wrote:
cyprusgeoff wrote:Image

These objects of shit only deserve the most painful and lingering death that man has ever invented.

I am in no way excusing the dreadful actions of these individuals, but they themselves have grown up within the lowest levels of society, and it could be argued are the consequences (I daren't use the word 'victims') of the hugely unequal society that exists today. They probably have never been properly taught the difference between right or wrong, or good or evil, their minds were probably addled with drink or drugs, and the social expectations within this underclass (with which few of us have any real knowledge, familiarity or understanding) are entirely different to the rest of us.

I am not in favour of capital punishment. In our western societies we have the money and knowledge to improve opportunities and education, and improve the standard of living for the underclasses - we just choose not to do this, and use our prosperity in different ways (military spending, shoring up our financial insitutions, etc). They should serve their jail terms - I'm sure it will not be a pleasant experience for them. I don't believe they will be given new identities in another country. I hope efforts are made to educate and rehabilitate them, and make them aware of the evil nature of their actions, although I fear our prison service in the UK doesn't place this as a high priority.

Oh please! :x

Don't give me the old 'don't know the difference between right and wrong' argument!

Hang them. :evil:

I'm guessing you're a Daily Mail reader. :roll: I'd imagine you have no idea of social underclass, drug-fuelled societies, common practice of child abuse. To deny it exists is irresponsible in my view, perpetuates the problem, and therefore contributes to the next Baby P-like death. Will a few hangings cure societies ills, of which this one tragic death is but a single symptom? I think not.

This poor baby died as the result of prolonged abuse. Which was worse, the first time the baby was slammed against the wall, or kicked or whatever, or the one that finally killed? It has been acknowledged the social system was at fault, the signs of abuse were there and the baby should have been taken into care. They were allowed to behave in this barbaric manner too long, hence the death. They progressed from being abusers to murderers. This could, and should, have been prevented.


I understand all about poverty etc. having been born and bred in the middle of London (Elephant & Castle) but my mum and dad had nothing but they didn't use me as a punchbag. Its just excuse after excuse for these kind of people. Yes the authorities let baby Peter down thats no excuse, but how can anyone stand by and watch was happening to that poor child and do nothing (his mother for one) - just hang them all. You won't change my mind I'm afraid.
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