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Postby Kifeas » Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:00 am

gabaston wrote:m2

yup i remember reports that T did sink one of her ships.

but what is the american comment about........

"nobody will mind if they sink one of her own ships"?

what?


On the 22 of July 1974, the Americans (I think it was phone conversation between kissinger and Ecevit) were trying to get the Turks to agree on a cease-fire. The Turks insisted that it was not possible because there were Greek ships in the Northwest of Pafos, carrying Turkish flags for deception reasons, full of Greek troops and coming to Cyprus. The Americans insisted that they were not Greek Ships but Turkish ones. The Turks said that they would sink them first and then discuss a cease-fire. The Americans answered that the US will not mind if the Turks sink their own ships.

So it happened. Battle ship Kotcatepe was sunk and another Turkish battle ship seriously damaged with some 90 Turkish sailors killed by Turkish fighter jets
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Postby pantelis » Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:32 am

I do not consider the flags to be the biggest problem, but I will give you my two cents on the "subject".
The Greek flags have no place in Cyprus, except at the Greek embassy and the Greek army contingent.
The Turkish Cypriot flags do not mean anything, because they represent something that does not exist.
The Turkish flags, on the other hand, represent the Turkish occupation. They come with the Turkish troops in the north. The Turkish flags belong there, as much as the Turkish troops belong there.
Whether the Greek or Turkish Cypriots like to see the Turkish flags or not, there is nothing they can do about it. Turkey and the Turkish army are responsible for their flags, as they have full control of the occupied part of Cyprus.
The EU flag does not exist in the north. Turkey is not a member of the union yet and I doubt if she ever becomes one.
The Turkish Cypriots should decide whether they belong to Anatolia or to Europe, with the rest of Cyprus.
Just my two cents... and some change.
Otherwise, in nine days I will be Cyprus… to enjoy the “heat” of the Cyprus problem….
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Postby demetriou_74 » Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:55 pm

pantelis wrote:I do not consider the flags to be the biggest problem, but I will give you my two cents on the "subject".
The Greek flags have no place in Cyprus, except at the Greek embassy and the Greek army contingent.
The Turkish Cypriot flags do not mean anything, because they represent something that does not exist.
The Turkish flags, on the other hand, represent the Turkish occupation. They come with the Turkish troops in the north. The Turkish flags belong there, as much as the Turkish troops belong there.
Whether the Greek or Turkish Cypriots like to see the Turkish flags or not, there is nothing they can do about it. Turkey and the Turkish army are responsible for their flags, as they have full control of the occupied part of Cyprus.
The EU flag does not exist in the north. Turkey is not a member of the union yet and I doubt if she ever becomes one.
The Turkish Cypriots should decide whether they belong to Anatolia or to Europe, with the rest of Cyprus.
Just my two cents... and some change.
Otherwise, in nine days I will be Cyprus… to enjoy the “heat” of the Cyprus problem….



so very true. the current cyprus flag should reamian as that of the island. it has the outline of the island and the leaves that are found on the island. simple yet very effective
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Postby JustAnAmerican » Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:14 pm

Kifeas wrote:
On the 22 of July 1974,


Kifeas, that is intresting about the date. Most of the dates on the graves in the cemetary were all from a few days apart.
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Postby cannedmoose » Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:00 pm

JustAnAmerican wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
On the 22 of July 1974,


Kifeas, that is intresting about the date. Most of the dates on the graves in the cemetary were all from a few days apart.


Probably most within the period 20th July to 23rd July. Then you've got those who died during the August second-phase invasion.
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Postby Kifeas » Thu Jun 30, 2005 4:15 pm

JustAnAmerican wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
On the 22 of July 1974,


Kifeas, that is intresting about the date. Most of the dates on the graves in the cemetary were all from a few days apart.


JAA, it seems you didn't understand what I was talking about.
I am talking about the sinking of a Turkish battleship (Kotcatepe) by Turkish fighter jets. Which dates and on which graves are you talking about?
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Postby suetoniuspaulinus » Fri Jul 01, 2005 5:19 pm

cannedmoose wrote:
JustAnAmerican wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
On the 22 of July 1974,


Kifeas, that is intresting about the date. Most of the dates on the graves in the cemetary were all from a few days apart.


Probably most within the period 20th July to 23rd July. Then you've got those who died during the August second-phase invasion.


Mr cannedmoose

I'm afraid I have another question for you.

It's about the second phase of the invasion/intervention.military excercise.

Why did it happen? What discussions took place in the intervening period?

Thanks
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Postby MicAtCyp » Fri Jul 01, 2005 8:09 pm

Kifeas wrote: JAA, it seems you didn't understand what I was talking about.
I am talking about the sinking of a Turkish battleship (Kotcatepe) by Turkish fighter jets. Which dates and on which graves are you talking about?


He insinuates that the ship was not Turkish but Greek. So the dates on the graves are very close to the date of the sinking of that ship.
Typical American idiot jumping into false conclusions faster than a thunderstrike.

Hey JAA you said the RoC hired you to work for them for 3 years and then report back to them??? Aman mana mou, I pitty those who will read your report.
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