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Sound of Silence By the RoC......not by Simon and Gurfunkel

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Postby YFred » Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:38 pm

shahmaran wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
shahmaran wrote:They are just his interpretations GR, everyone is entitled to one...

I admire Kikapu's meticulous analysis… it's a hell of a lot more than I'd ever be prepared to do for Y-Fronts! :lol:


"to do" or "could do", makes all the difference GR :lol: :lol:

I too admire Kikapu's long and coherent responses, however I also cannot help but often feel how they are sometimes been forced to fit into his personal views, taking the objectivity out from them.

Just my opinion :)

He is the only person I know to have squared the circle, and he is not even a mathematician, he is sailor like GR.
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Postby Kikapu » Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:47 pm

YFred wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
shahmaran wrote:They are just his interpretations GR, everyone is entitled to one...

I admire Kikapu's meticulous analysis… it's a hell of a lot more than I'd ever be prepared to do for Y-Fronts! :lol:


"to do" or "could do", makes all the difference GR :lol: :lol:

I too admire Kikapu's long and coherent responses, however I also cannot help but often feel how they are sometimes been forced to fit into his personal views, taking the objectivity out from them.

Just my opinion :)

He is the only person I know to have squared the circle, and he is not even a mathematician, he is sailor like GR.


GR is a sailor.?? :D

I did not know that.!

Now Einstein, explain what's this suppose to mean.! :?

He is the only person I know to have squared the circle, and he is not even a mathematician
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Postby YFred » Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:54 pm

Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
shahmaran wrote:They are just his interpretations GR, everyone is entitled to one...

I admire Kikapu's meticulous analysis… it's a hell of a lot more than I'd ever be prepared to do for Y-Fronts! :lol:


"to do" or "could do", makes all the difference GR :lol: :lol:

I too admire Kikapu's long and coherent responses, however I also cannot help but often feel how they are sometimes been forced to fit into his personal views, taking the objectivity out from them.

Just my opinion :)

He is the only person I know to have squared the circle, and he is not even a mathematician, he is sailor like GR.


GR is a sailor.?? :D

I did not know that.!

Now Einstein, explain what's this suppose to mean.! :?

He is the only person I know to have squared the circle, and he is not even a mathematician

Do you not understand English; perhaps one of the English forumers can explain to you what is meant by squaring the circle and what a mathematician is.
I am not teaching you English for free. The tills are ringing and the dollar sign is appearing in my vision.
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Postby Kikapu » Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:58 pm

YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
shahmaran wrote:They are just his interpretations GR, everyone is entitled to one...

I admire Kikapu's meticulous analysis… it's a hell of a lot more than I'd ever be prepared to do for Y-Fronts! :lol:


"to do" or "could do", makes all the difference GR :lol: :lol:

I too admire Kikapu's long and coherent responses, however I also cannot help but often feel how they are sometimes been forced to fit into his personal views, taking the objectivity out from them.

Just my opinion :)

He is the only person I know to have squared the circle, and he is not even a mathematician, he is sailor like GR.


GR is a sailor.?? :D

I did not know that.!

Now Einstein, explain what's this suppose to mean.! :?

He is the only person I know to have squared the circle, and he is not even a mathematician

Do you not understand English; perhaps one of the English forumers can explain to you what is meant by squaring the circle and what a mathematician is.
I am not teaching you English for free. The tills are ringing and the dollar sign is appearing in my vision.


In another words, you don't know what the hell you are talking about, other than just throwing phrases around for us to think that you are Einstein, even though you don't even know what it means. I caught you out as I always do.! :lol:

You are yet to teach me or anyone else on here anything, Einstein.! :lol:

I can see that labelling you Einstein has gotten to your head as a know-it-all.! :lol:
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Postby YFred » Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:43 pm

Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
shahmaran wrote:They are just his interpretations GR, everyone is entitled to one...

I admire Kikapu's meticulous analysis… it's a hell of a lot more than I'd ever be prepared to do for Y-Fronts! :lol:


"to do" or "could do", makes all the difference GR :lol: :lol:

I too admire Kikapu's long and coherent responses, however I also cannot help but often feel how they are sometimes been forced to fit into his personal views, taking the objectivity out from them.

Just my opinion :)

He is the only person I know to have squared the circle, and he is not even a mathematician, he is sailor like GR.


GR is a sailor.?? :D

I did not know that.!

Now Einstein, explain what's this suppose to mean.! :?

He is the only person I know to have squared the circle, and he is not even a mathematician

Do you not understand English; perhaps one of the English forumers can explain to you what is meant by squaring the circle and what a mathematician is.
I am not teaching you English for free. The tills are ringing and the dollar sign is appearing in my vision.


In another words, you don't know what the hell you are talking about, other than just throwing phrases around for us to think that you are Einstein, even though you don't even know what it means. I caught you out as I always do.! :lol:

You are yet to teach me or anyone else on here anything, Einstein.! :lol:

I can see that labelling you Einstein has gotten to your head as a know-it-all.! :lol:

My name is Manuel, I am from Barcelona, and I know nothing.
But if you really really really really reeeeeaaaaaaly want to know I will explain it old boy!
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Thanks BOF!

Postby cymart » Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:26 pm

It's hardly rocket science is it?Just look at Russias history and see how it has treated other countries or ask people in the Baltic States and other east european countries for some advice about dealing with Russia from their experiences!
Even the mayor of Famagusta admitted recently that a real chance was lost in 1978 for the G.C's to get the town back without any other commitments when Kyprianous government rejected the so-called Western Initiative,largely because Moscow told the AKEL that it was 'a very bad plan' which should not be accepted etc!As Ghalanos says,we were a victim of the Cold War!
Cyprus is far too small to play Big power politics,as many commentators have said,including Nicos Rolandis,the former foreign minister who cited examples of fatal mistakes made by naive and inexperienced politicians here who think Cyprus is the centre of the universe!
As an E.U. and Commonwealth member with close ties to Britain in so many fields and a country which has significant military bases here,it is surely obvious which side of the fence Cyprus belongs on...
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Re: Thanks BOF!

Postby YFred » Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:44 pm

cymart wrote:It's hardly rocket science is it?Just look at Russias history and see how it has treated other countries or ask people in the Baltic States and other east european countries for some advice about dealing with Russia from their experiences!
Even the mayor of Famagusta admitted recently that a real chance was lost in 1978 for the G.C's to get the town back without any other commitments when Kyprianous government rejected the so-called Western Initiative,largely because Moscow told the AKEL that it was 'a very bad plan' which should not be accepted etc!As Ghalanos says,we were a victim of the Cold War!
Cyprus is far too small to play Big power politics,as many commentators have said,including Nicos Rolandis,the former foreign minister who cited examples of fatal mistakes made by naive and inexperienced politicians here who think Cyprus is the centre of the universe!
As an E.U. and Commonwealth member with close ties to Britain in so many fields and a country which has significant military bases here,it is surely obvious which side of the fence Cyprus belongs on...

Don't even mention the name Nicos Rolandis, you are liable to face the firing squad of Eoka-c.
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Postby CBBB » Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:53 pm

Are we worried what one Putin said to another putin (ask somone who speaks Kypriaka).
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Postby Nikitas » Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:06 am

Russian commentator interviewed on BBC yesterday (August 11 2009) observed that the pipeline under discussion passed along the seabed of the BLACK SEA. Last time I looked at a map that is a fair distance from Cyprus.

Secondly- the same commentator noted that the cost of the projected pipeline is 25 billion dollars and added that it would be much cheaper to patch up the relationship with Ukraine and stop these grandiose pipe dreams.

And please wait for the American reaction before wetting your panties. The Americans are dead against any expansion of Russian energy influence and have made it clear to all, including Italy who is the final stop for the pipeline.

As for the silence YFred is talking about the news was front page in the leading GC papers and on of the main items on CYBC newscasts for two days. So what silence is he referring to?
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Re: Take this from someone who knows....

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:11 am

cymart wrote:Unlike many people who post on this site,I have lived and worked in Russia quite recently and probably know far more about the place and the regime which runs it than many foreigners.Putin was -and still is, a KGB(now called FSB) man and even said himself that nobody ever retires from that organisation!Expecting these kind of people to understand the kind of values like democracy,human rights etc that we value in the West is at best naive....his concerns are Russias hegemony and economic interests and if that includes baiting and upsetting those of the West,which he doe not trust anyway,so much the better!So he is doing his job perfectly,playing the card with Turkey and knowing damn well that the West also wants Turkey under its wing!Cyprus is not even a minor concern for him when big stakes are involved but try convincing Greek-Cypriot supporters and brown-nosers of Russia about this......If any high-level official from another major power had dared to make such a deal with Turkey accompanied with statements about Cyprus like Putin did,the Gree-Cypriots would have erupted like a volcano in protest!...
I have often tried to tell people here who hold illusions that Russia will do anything practical to pressure Turkey,to wake-up to reality because they have not done so and are not likely to either for the forseeable future!They should also ask themselves whether Russia even thinks it would be in their interest for the Cyprus problem to be solved when that would strenghten Nato and Greco-Turkish relations in an area where they know the West has bases and what it considers to be vital strategic interests?
Putin also avoided meeting Christophias during his visit to Moscow last year and this is always glossed-over with excuses here whenever the subject is raised...Or is it simply because more than a small number of the political establishment here have law offices and accountancy businesses which handle enormous sums of transient Russian money of dubious origin and this is enough to excuse any other wrong-doings by Moscow by not actively supporting the Greek-Cypriot cause???


Agree with you there. By the same token, I do not believe that the Anglo-American alliance is waging war in parts of the Middle East all in the noble interest of bringing democracy to benighted parts of the world!
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