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[Lit]

Talat attended the commemoration ceremony in occupied Kokkina
Illegal Bayrak television (09.08.09) broadcast the following:

“Martyrs who fell during the Erenkoy [occupied Kokkina] Resistance, following the Greek Cypriot onslaught in 1974, were commemorated with the 45th anniversary yesterday. A commemoration ceremony was held at the Erenkoy Martyrdom in Erenkoy where the TRNC President Mehmet Ali Talat also attended.

Government and military officials, representatives of civil society organizations also attended the memorial service alongside many members of the public. Around 2,000 people travelled by buses to Erenkoy yesterday morning via the soon-to-be opened Yesilirmak [Limnitis] crossing point in line with an agreement reached earlier between President Talat and the Greek Cypriot Leader Dimitris Christofias.

Addressing the audience there, President Talat said that the Erenkoy resistance was a turning point in the history of the struggle of existence waged by the Turks of Cyprus. He stressed that the Erenkoy resistance had demonstrated the solidarity of the Turks of Cyprus.

Talat also said that the Erenkoy resistance had also shown Turkey’s capacity for tolerance and at which point it could use military force to protect the Turks of Cyprus.

The President also underlined the importance of passing on the spirit of the Erenkoy struggle to future generations.

Also speaking at the ceremony, the Commander of the Cyprus Turkish Peace Forces Lieutenant General Hilmi Akin Zorlu said that martyrs who lost their lives for the existence of Turks of Cyprus are the spiritual symbols of the everlasting existence of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.

The Commander of the Cyprus Turkish Security Forces Major General Abdullah Recep, for his part, said that the current phase that Turks of Cyprus has reached is the result of unlimited self-sacrifice of martyrs.”

[Nikitas]

And with one single stroke of the pen the Stalinist regime has changed the name of its people, no longer will they be called Turkish Cypriots, but Turks of Cyprus. Left winger Talat has no problem adopting the terminology decreed by the generals.

And if you are not getting the drift and intent behind it, look around, your gaze is bound to fall on some genuine Cypriot landmark like a huge turkish flag or a bust of Kemal.

This is the regime that will be an equal partner after a settlement.

[miltiades]

Turkey seems to be succeeding in eradicating the Turkish Cypriots from Cyprus .
The term Turkish Cypriot has existed for hundreds of years , are we to negotiate now with Turks of Cyprus ?

[YFred]

Turkey seems to be succeeding in eradicating the Turkish Cypriots from Cyprus .
The term Turkish Cypriot has existed for hundreds of years , are we to negotiate now with Turks of Cyprus ?

For years, the GCs did not negotiate or sit in the same room as the TCs, because that would put the TCs on equal footing. 35 years on where did that lead to? I see we are still looking for excuses not to talk.

You will negotiate with who ever is put in front of you by TC community. He will have the mandate of the TCs and can call himself what he likes so long as it includes "Turk" and "Cyprus" in it he is free to arrange them any way he likes. Like it or not, he has won the elections fairly. I wonder though, have the GC community got any message from the last TC elections or are they doing the usual, turn a deaf ear.
Either way time is running out and the options are getting more and more limited.

[The Cypriot]

You will negotiate with who ever is put in front of you by TC community. He will have the mandate of the TCs and can call himself what he likes so long as it includes "Turk" and "Cyprus".

If Cyprus is going to have to do deals with a gangster calling himself Turk send this guy.



The meeting can take place in a quiet restaurant and he'll be made him an offer he can't refuse.

[YFred]

You will negotiate with who ever is put in front of you by TC community. He will have the mandate of the TCs and can call himself what he likes so long as it includes "Turk" and "Cyprus".

If Cyprus is going to have to do deals with a gangster calling himself Turk send this guy.



The meeting can take place in a quiet restaurant and he'll be made him an offer he can't refuse.

Re gumbare, this fellow as honourable as he is (Killing of Don Corleone was business not personal), unfortunately he has no Cyprus in his name.
Disqualified. Sorry.

[The Cypriot]

Shame 'cos we'd have invited the British military commander who runs the sovereign bases on Cyprus along too. That way we'd be able to kill two birds with one stone.



The restaurant serves the best veal in the city...

[miltiades]

Turkey seems to be succeeding in eradicating the Turkish Cypriots from Cyprus .
The term Turkish Cypriot has existed for hundreds of years , are we to negotiate now with Turks of Cyprus ?

For years, the GCs did not negotiate or sit in the same room as the TCs, because that would put the TCs on equal footing. 35 years on where did that lead to? I see we are still looking for excuses not to talk.

You will negotiate with who ever is put in front of you by TC community. He will have the mandate of the TCs and can call himself what he likes so long as it includes "Turk" and "Cyprus" in it he is free to arrange them any way he likes. Like it or not, he has won the elections fairly. I wonder though, have the GC community got any message from the last TC elections or are they doing the usual, turn a deaf ear.
Either way time is running out and the options are getting more and more limited.

Wrong Fred . The T/Cs have as much right to be in our homeland as I and other G/Cs have.
The Turks of Turkey DO NOT HAVE THIS RIGHT.
The seetlers were brought in by the occupation regime to alter the demographics of Cyprus.
The T/C ought to resist and not succumb to Turkeys extermonation policies.
We must never accept that Turkey has any legitimate rights in CYPRUS , ANY MORE THAN GREECE HAS.
In truth Turkey has dug its own grave in Cyprus for it will have to maintain feed and cloth 35 thousand plus troops for ever because we shall never accept that a part of OUR island is annexed by Turkey.
Make no mistake , when moderates such as me rebel against the organised destruction of the T/C identity the T/Cs will rebel too.
Who the fuck does she think she is , a bloody third world nation and one that detests the T/Cs , and you know the T/Cs are detested in Turkey.
Get rid of this third world occupier and taste freedom , democracy and prosperity. Turkey has decided that the T/C isnt worth saving so they ahve ditched you , cant you see this ?

[YFred]

Turkey seems to be succeeding in eradicating the Turkish Cypriots from Cyprus .
The term Turkish Cypriot has existed for hundreds of years , are we to negotiate now with Turks of Cyprus ?

For years, the GCs did not negotiate or sit in the same room as the TCs, because that would put the TCs on equal footing. 35 years on where did that lead to? I see we are still looking for excuses not to talk.

You will negotiate with who ever is put in front of you by TC community. He will have the mandate of the TCs and can call himself what he likes so long as it includes "Turk" and "Cyprus" in it he is free to arrange them any way he likes. Like it or not, he has won the elections fairly. I wonder though, have the GC community got any message from the last TC elections or are they doing the usual, turn a deaf ear.
Either way time is running out and the options are getting more and more limited.

Wrong Fred . The T/Cs have as much right to be in our homeland as I and other G/Cs have.
The Turks of Turkey DO NOT HAVE THIS RIGHT.
The seetlers were brought in by the occupation regime to alter the demographics of Cyprus.
The T/C ought to resist and not succumb to Turkeys extermonation policies.
We must never accept that Turkey has any legitimate rights in CYPRUS , ANY MORE THAN GREECE HAS.
In truth Turkey has dug its own grave in Cyprus for it will have to maintain feed and cloth 35 thousand plus troops for ever because we shall never accept that a part of OUR island is annexed by Turkey.
Make no mistake , when moderates such as me rebel against the organised destruction of the T/C identity the T/Cs will rebel too.
Who the fuck does she think she is , a bloody third world nation and one that detests the T/Cs , and you know the T/Cs are detested in Turkey.
Get rid of this third world occupier and taste freedom , democracy and prosperity. Turkey has decided that the T/C isnt worth saving so they ahve ditched you , cant you see this ?

Milt, it is so easy to put spin on things to suit whatever propaganda you wish. The policy of ethnically cleansing the TCs from Cyprus, started in 1960, when The Monk and his gang hatched the akritas plan. The rest of it is history. Up to 1974, TCs left Cyprus because there were no security and no hope of living there due to suffocation of the TCs who were just enclaved due to the direct actions of the RoC and the Monk. You go on about how many were killed before 74, as if it makes a difference. I’ll give you an example; my older brother completed his degree in London in 72 and returned to find a job in Cyprus in the GC side. My Fathers advice was very simple, sooner or later the GCs will start another war, and they will kill you. Go back to England. Not only that but he sent me over at the age of 14 for the same reason.

Then you say, but what about since 74. Well show me a single TC who left Cyprus since 74 on security grounds. TCs have been leaving Cyprus due to the suffocation of the TC economy and we all know why?

Then you say it’s the Turkish Army’s fault. It sounds slightly weird that you are suffocating the TCs because of what Turkey has been doing since 74. Instead of helping TCs to survive and begin the process that one day they may tell Turkey where to go, you suffocate them even further and wonder why they vote for Eroglu.

[cymart]

Celebrating anyones death and glorifying the massacre of innocent people,no matter who or where,is a sign of hatred,not reconciliation!
For God or Allahs sake,please,please just stop it!!
Try following Sevgul Uludags example so we can all look each other direct in the eye again and then get on with living together on this island,even if we can't love each other yet......