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“Alevi -Sunni conflict” in Cyprus...LOL

Postby Lit » Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:56 pm

“Alevi -Sunni conflict”

Under the above title Turkish Cypriot daily KIBRIS newspaper (10.08.09) reports that the chairman of the Cyprus Master Sultan Abdal Culture Association, Selver Kaya, called on the head of the “Religious Affairs Directorate”, Yusuf Suicmez either to apologize or to resign, for some recent statements he made as regards the Alevi Houses, the places of worship and traditions of the Alevi-Bektashi population. Mr Suicmez has said in a written statement, inter alia, that these houses where Alevi gather for their praying do not exist in the history of Cyprus.
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Postby shahmaran » Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:08 pm

Alevi's have been struggling for their rights ever since that piece of shit Tayip has come to power.

It is a shame because much as I oppose any belief of this sort, if it had to be one, I would still prefer the Alevi's over the Sunni or the Shia bastards.
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Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:16 pm

shahmaran wrote:Alevi's have been struggling for their rights ever since that piece of shit Tayip has come to power.

It is a shame because much as I oppose any belief of this sort, if it had to be one, I would still prefer the Alevi's over the Sunni or the Shia bastards.


I have known a lot of Alevis in Turkey and find them to be very broad minded people. There is a theory that a great many Alevis were exiled to Cyprus in the years immediately following the Ottoman conquest and that they have made a strong contribution towards shaping the character of the Turkish Cypriot people.
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Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:18 pm

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Postby shahmaran » Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:25 pm

It sounds about right Tim.

Alevi belief is very tolerant, open minded and less about dogmas.

For example, women have no obligation to cover themselves up as they believe that it is all about the inside of a person rather than the exterior look.

Here;

Key Alevi characteristics include:

* Love and respect for all people (“The important thing is not religion, but being a human being”)
* Tolerance towards other religions and ethnic groups (“If you hurt another person, the ritual prayers you have done are counted as worthless”)
* Respect for working people ("The greatest act of worship is to work”)
* Equality of men and women, who pray side by side. Monogamy is practiced.


Might explain why the TC's as a people are so distant from all religious ties and consider themselves to be very secular.

Even more than Turkey can ever be, especially with such morons in charge...
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Postby The Cypriot » Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:32 pm

They sound like an eminently sensible community...

Key Alevi characteristics include:

* Love and respect for all people (“The important thing is not religion, but being a human being”)
* Tolerance towards other religions and ethnic groups (“If you hurt another person, the ritual prayers you have done are counted as worthless”)
* Respect for working people ("The greatest act of worship is to work”)
* Equality of men and women, who pray side by side. Monogamy is practiced.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alevi
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Postby halil » Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:51 pm

Tim ,
I would like u to read below article and make your comments about it .

http://www.kibrispostasi.com/index.php/ ... ame/KIBRIS

It looks like big war also started by the Turkish Cypriots side about ROC what has happened the islamic heritages which has been left in south Cyprus .

It looks like both sides will have hard times about claims.
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Postby shahmaran » Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:56 pm

halil wrote:Tim ,
I would like u to read below article and make your comments about it .

http://www.kibrispostasi.com/index.php/ ... ame/KIBRIS

It looks like big war also started by the Turkish Cypriots side about ROC what has happened the islamic heritages which has been left in south Cyprus .

It looks like both sides will have hard times about claims.


How does that song go?

"Two can play that gamee, oohh yeeee, two can play that gameee" :lol:

Anyways shit song...
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Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:36 pm

halil wrote:Tim ,
I would like u to read below article and make your comments about it .

http://www.kibrispostasi.com/index.php/ ... ame/KIBRIS

It looks like big war also started by the Turkish Cypriots side about ROC what has happened the islamic heritages which has been left in south Cyprus .

It looks like both sides will have hard times about claims.


It is very sad and I condemn all such attacks on people's cultural heritage. On the other hand, the Grand Mosque in the centre of Limassol is in good condition and is open for worship on a daily basis with a Syrian Imam. There is a second mosque that has a TC imam and is used for worship for Friday and Bayram prayers. I know of a number of other mosques in and around Limassol that are in good condition. So, on this side, not all the news is bad.
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Postby shahmaran » Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:38 pm

I'm pretty sure we also have Church's in use on our side, and some in good condition.

I have 2 Church waiting to be fixed in Lefke if anyone is interested :D

I also remember a Chapel on the way to Lefke which was around for many years and one day it became a roundabout :lol:

Shame really, it was a cute one...
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