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[Milo]

Now, I don't know if ex-pats leaving Cyprus are abanding their pets or not, but most I know, who have dogs etc love them to pieces and would only 'abandon' them if they really had to.

Why are they being left behind? I suppose if people are leaving because they are in dire financial circumstances, the cost of transporting a pet at this time is a serious consideration.

And where are these people returning to? They are unlikely to have homes in the UK to go to. So they will be returning to stay with relatives, in hotels, or renting an apartment/house, while they get their lives in order again. In all these cases, having a pet may well be out of the question, So, I would suggest that most pet owners leaving their pets here only do so because there is little option.

Has anyone any numbers on these 'abandoned pets?

Lana

i know here in the north the rescue is at breaking point.
in the last week i have had calls from people needing a kennel to put their dog at until a flight is sorted, loads of people are leaving and taking their dogs but i guess the same amount will be leaving their dog behind.

i can't believe that anyone would allow themselves to get that broke that they couldn't afford to take their dog home with them. at least in the south you can use the pets scheme.
we have to do quarantine coming from the north. 6 months quarantine costs quite a bit.

In some ways that is surprising; the Property Market in the north is quite as bad as it is in Pafos, so how can people afford to return to the UK when they have not sold their property, where they will be faced with additional accommodation costs, which must outweigh the difference in cost between living in the UK and living in Cyprus? Unless they are renting of course.

Bit of a Catch 22 situation...


Lana (tired cliches a speciality!)

The shelters in the South are in the same position right now in fact not only are the ex-pats adding to the misery of neglected animals the annual august holiday brings with it more abandoned animals, we see dogs and puppies dumped here in the village regularly, when we try and find a shelter they are always full, the onus then becomes on the finder to keep or house the animal until THEY can find it a home as many of us are unable to walk away. This is a ridiculous situation, it needs govt help at least to the shelters who do a great job in extremely bad circumstances. I could,nt do it, it must be heartbreaking.

The least I do is take a donation to our local one Argos, but they need a regular income to keep going, the govt I think donates approx €500 per YEAR, how can we thank them.

Cydra helps relocate abandoned and neglected dogs to Germany or Sweden last year Germany took 400 to re-home, our local vet has a lady who re-homes dogs to Sweden. So as these charities are soaring in this country and not all run by expats either, they deserve at least some monetary help. The SBA lads also built and paid for new shelters at Argos, so many are trying to sortout this dreadful neglect.

Then of course we have the cat problem Many are tring to cope with the spaying plan, hundreds of thousands of cats to deal with tourists feed them and leave, then authorities move in and poisen them So never ending. It needs money and more effort all round, the expats and other EU immigrants cannot be expected to take in all the strays any longer, we all have too many, so thats why the 'do something about it now' arguement is rising.

I cannot believe how FULL the shelters get here, anyone dumping their pets whatever nationality imho has no excuse whatsoever

No numbers other than Cydra and Argos if you look on their websites Lana, but hey who in authority would wish to admit that!!

I repeat the laws put in place in 2004 are never enforced, niether has anyone been prosecuted for poisoning, even though approx 10,000 are killed this way per year. And there is a law against this too. Now a new poison has hit the shores, Carbufarin, even more deadly.

The Green Party in Cyprus are also active in wanting this stamped out, they would always get my vote, they were the party that got Lannate banned.

In one year we have had three kittens, four dogs one tiny pup thrown out near us, then before we got near them an alsation and a doberman killed on the road In a tiny development of four properties but out on the fringes of the village. We call the Police now, guess what, they don,t come.......Total indifference, soon we will be coping with abandoned hunting dogs when they don,t perform, they have to be the cruellest cases I have seen.

The answer is govt money lots of it and this would at least help all the neglected animals and laws enforced strictly where possible. Cruelty to animals will always be there I know, but at least having a decent animal welfare system would allievate the problem, surely?

I too have been to the north, and seen exactly the same as here with strays.

Emotion does,nt help, niether name calling or comparisons, it needs money and law enforcement. And maybe the Cyprus Animal rescue Organistion set up or similar.

i totaly agree.
the trouble is the more the expats do for the stray animals the less either goverment does. here they get the rescue to keep kyrenia tidy of strays but elsewhere they don't care. just as it looks good for the tourists.
i wonder what message tourists take home when they see the strays and cruelty to animals here in cyprus?
i do think it has got a lot worse over the last few years.
i know how hard it is to rehome an animal here, there was an old guy who had cancer who wanted to rehome his dalmation and asked us for help. we tried and tried with no joy, then by chance hubby met a tc at the beach and got talking. he made contact with the guy who was dying and took on the dalmation. so its not only the expats that do their bit.
everyone i know has taken in at least one dog, there is just no more room at the inn, and something needs to be done.

I really don,t think many tourists do know, although the dead dogs on the motorway from the airport are being shifted faster before the coaches come down Maybe a peaceful protest at the opening of the new airport

Link to a petition to end animal cruelty here, signed so far by many here in Cyprus and lots from other countries :- http://www.thepetitionsite.com/6/animal ... -in-cyprus

Milo, how are you today?

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Now, I don't know if ex-pats leaving Cyprus are abanding their pets or not, but most I know, who have dogs etc love them to pieces and would only 'abandon' them if they really had to.

Why are they being left behind? I suppose if people are leaving because they are in dire financial circumstances, the cost of transporting a pet at this time is a serious consideration.

And where are these people returning to? They are unlikely to have homes in the UK to go to. So they will be returning to stay with relatives, in hotels, or renting an apartment/house, while they get their lives in order again. In all these cases, having a pet may well be out of the question, So, I would suggest that most pet owners leaving their pets here only do so because there is little option.

Has anyone any numbers on these 'abandoned pets?

Lana

i know here in the north the rescue is at breaking point.
in the last week i have had calls from people needing a kennel to put their dog at until a flight is sorted, loads of people are leaving and taking their dogs but i guess the same amount will be leaving their dog behind.

i can't believe that anyone would allow themselves to get that broke that they couldn't afford to take their dog home with them. at least in the south you can use the pets scheme.
we have to do quarantine coming from the north. 6 months quarantine costs quite a bit.

In some ways that is surprising; the Property Market in the north is quite as bad as it is in Pafos, so how can people afford to return to the UK when they have not sold their property, where they will be faced with additional accommodation costs, which must outweigh the difference in cost between living in the UK and living in Cyprus? Unless they are renting of course.

Bit of a Catch 22 situation...


Lana (tired cliches a speciality!)

The shelters in the South are in the same position right now in fact not only are the ex-pats adding to the misery of neglected animals the annual august holiday brings with it more abandoned animals, we see dogs and puppies dumped here in the village regularly, when we try and find a shelter they are always full, the onus then becomes on the finder to keep or house the animal until THEY can find it a home as many of us are unable to walk away. This is a ridiculous situation, it needs govt help at least to the shelters who do a great job in extremely bad circumstances. I could,nt do it, it must be heartbreaking.

The least I do is take a donation to our local one Argos, but they need a regular income to keep going, the govt I think donates approx €500 per YEAR, how can we thank them.

Cydra helps relocate abandoned and neglected dogs to Germany or Sweden last year Germany took 400 to re-home, our local vet has a lady who re-homes dogs to Sweden. So as these charities are soaring in this country and not all run by expats either, they deserve at least some monetary help. The SBA lads also built and paid for new shelters at Argos, so many are trying to sortout this dreadful neglect.

Then of course we have the cat problem Many are tring to cope with the spaying plan, hundreds of thousands of cats to deal with tourists feed them and leave, then authorities move in and poisen them So never ending. It needs money and more effort all round, the expats and other EU immigrants cannot be expected to take in all the strays any longer, we all have too many, so thats why the 'do something about it now' arguement is rising.

I cannot believe how FULL the shelters get here, anyone dumping their pets whatever nationality imho has no excuse whatsoever

No numbers other than Cydra and Argos if you look on their websites Lana, but hey who in authority would wish to admit that!!

I repeat the laws put in place in 2004 are never enforced, niether has anyone been prosecuted for poisoning, even though approx 10,000 are killed this way per year. And there is a law against this too. Now a new poison has hit the shores, Carbufarin, even more deadly.

The Green Party in Cyprus are also active in wanting this stamped out, they would always get my vote, they were the party that got Lannate banned.

In one year we have had three kittens, four dogs one tiny pup thrown out near us, then before we got near them an alsation and a doberman killed on the road In a tiny development of four properties but out on the fringes of the village. We call the Police now, guess what, they don,t come.......Total indifference, soon we will be coping with abandoned hunting dogs when they don,t perform, they have to be the cruellest cases I have seen.

The answer is govt money lots of it and this would at least help all the neglected animals and laws enforced strictly where possible. Cruelty to animals will always be there I know, but at least having a decent animal welfare system would allievate the problem, surely?

I too have been to the north, and seen exactly the same as here with strays.

Emotion does,nt help, niether name calling or comparisons, it needs money and law enforcement. And maybe the Cyprus Animal rescue Organistion set up or similar.

i totaly agree.
the trouble is the more the expats do for the stray animals the less either goverment does. here they get the rescue to keep kyrenia tidy of strays but elsewhere they don't care. just as it looks good for the tourists.
i wonder what message tourists take home when they see the strays and cruelty to animals here in cyprus?
i do think it has got a lot worse over the last few years.
i know how hard it is to rehome an animal here, there was an old guy who had cancer who wanted to rehome his dalmation and asked us for help. we tried and tried with no joy, then by chance hubby met a tc at the beach and got talking. he made contact with the guy who was dying and took on the dalmation. so its not only the expats that do their bit.
everyone i know has taken in at least one dog, there is just no more room at the inn, and something needs to be done.

I really don,t think many tourists do know, although the dead dogs on the motorway from the airport are being shifted faster before the coaches come down Maybe a peaceful protest at the opening of the new airport

Link to a petition to end animal cruelty here, signed so far by many here in Cyprus and lots from other countries :- http://www.thepetitionsite.com/6/animal ... -in-cyprus

Milo, how are you today?

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Glad to hear it!

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