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[Viewpoint]

growup avoiding reality is not gonna get you anywhere close to resolving the Cyprys problem.

What is your reality that you sound so equipped?

The TRNC and the fact that you do not have the influence over Turkey you think you do.

growup we just want to live in peace without bring dominated or discrminated against by GCs, we will never allow you to convert this island into a GC state run by GCs.

[growuptcs]

growup avoiding reality is not gonna get you anywhere close to resolving the Cyprys problem.

What is your reality that you sound so equipped?

The TRNC and the fact that you do not have the influence over Turkey you think you do.

growup we just want to live in peace without bring dominated or discrminated against by GCs, we will never allow you to convert this island into a GC state run by GCs.

Correction vp, you want to live in peace without being dominated by the GC's that you stole their homes from. Somehow, I dont think thats going to happen unless the whole world turns Turkish by December.

[Viewpoint]

growup avoiding reality is not gonna get you anywhere close to resolving the Cyprys problem.

What is your reality that you sound so equipped?

The TRNC and the fact that you do not have the influence over Turkey you think you do.

growup we just want to live in peace without bring dominated or discrminated against by GCs, we will never allow you to convert this island into a GC state run by GCs.

Correction vp, you want to live in peace without being dominated by the GC's that you stole their homes from. Somehow, I dont think thats going to happen unless the whole world turns Turkish by December.

BBF and power sharing is more important to me than GC refugees returning to live in a TC state. Do you accept my state as a political equal?

[growuptcs]

growup avoiding reality is not gonna get you anywhere close to resolving the Cyprys problem.

What is your reality that you sound so equipped?

The TRNC and the fact that you do not have the influence over Turkey you think you do.

growup we just want to live in peace without bring dominated or discrminated against by GCs, we will never allow you to convert this island into a GC state run by GCs.

Correction vp, you want to live in peace without being dominated by the GC's that you stole their homes from. Somehow, I dont think thats going to happen unless the whole world turns Turkish by December.

BBF and power sharing is more important to me than GC refugees returning to live in a TC state. Do you accept my state as a political equal?

I only except you equal to the gum on the bottom of my shoes. Politically equal means that you give us back what you stole first and enough of this extortionist attitude with empty pockets.

[Nikitas]

First turn the north into a TC state, from what it is now, and then you can talk about living under GC domination and all that nonsense you habitually spout in here.

[Viewpoint]

growup avoiding reality is not gonna get you anywhere close to resolving the Cyprys problem.

What is your reality that you sound so equipped?

The TRNC and the fact that you do not have the influence over Turkey you think you do.

growup we just want to live in peace without bring dominated or discrminated against by GCs, we will never allow you to convert this island into a GC state run by GCs.

Correction vp, you want to live in peace without being dominated by the GC's that you stole their homes from. Somehow, I dont think thats going to happen unless the whole world turns Turkish by December.

BBF and power sharing is more important to me than GC refugees returning to live in a TC state. Do you accept my state as a political equal?

I only except you equal to the gum on the bottom of my shoes. Politically equal means that you give us back what you stole first and enough of this extortionist attitude with empty pockets.

Do you think your degrading attitude is encouraging the desire for us to unite and work together? You response is the reason why we will never unite, you and people like you are the problem.

[Viewpoint]

First turn the north into a TC state, from what it is now, and then you can talk about living under GC domination and all that nonsense you habitually spout in here.

Run me through the process what happens after we turn into a TC state?

[Nikitas]

You live as free people, without the ridiculous demands of settlers on you and taking orders from the commandant ot the army or the amabassador. I know, I know, you are just fine now and the usual nonsense you spout in here and meanwhile you are getting fewer and fewer every year.

[Medman]

Taken from Opinions Section- Cyprus Mail.

A lesson in grown-up diplomacy

WE HAVE often written about the irresponsible way in which the nationalist media on both sides of the dividing line cultivate hostility and mistrust between the two sides. Statements are taken out of contexts, calculatingly misinterpreted or exaggerated while a negative spin is invariably put on the most innocuous of events. Fostering confrontation and hatred has become very much part of the local media culture.

But this is nothing compared to the actions of the media in Turkey and Greece which seem intent on causing maximum tension between the two countries and, if possible, putting them on a warpath.

In 1996 Greece and Turkey came close war when newspapers and television stations in both countries created a dispute over Imia, a tiny uninhabited island in the Aegean. The US government needed to intervene to avert a war over Imia which Turkish and Greek media groups were fighting over.

A similar incident, provoked by irresponsible newspaper reporting, appeared to be on the cards again, earlier this week. Two weeks ago, Greek paper Proto Thema reported that one thousand commandos had been deployed on islands in the Aegean the sovereignty of which was being disputed by Turkey. The main island it was referring to was Ro, an uninhabited piece of rock, off Turkey’s coast, the area of which is one square kilometer.

Although the command of the Greek Armed Forces immediately denied the report, this did not stop the Turkish papers from presenting this myth as a threat to Turkey’s security in need of a response. Turkish journalists, holding Turkish flags, subsequently hired a boat and tried to get to Ro but were stopped by the Greek coastguard and turned back. They claimed to have been arrested, while the media of both countries started reporting the artificial build-up of tension.

Fortunately, the governments of Greece and Turkey refused to play the media orchestrated tension game. The issue was resolved after a consultation between a senior Turkish foreign ministry official and Greece’s ambassador to Turkey, who explained that the journalists had not been arrested but had been subjected to a routine check. During the check the Greek Coastguard had contacted the Turkish coastguard in order to resolve the issue.

The media, which had done their best to build up artificial tension, failed spectacularly because Athens and Ankara refused to be drawn into this mindless and irresponsible game. This was a very encouraging development which highlighted the significant improvement of relations between the two governments in the last few years. In these conditions irresponsible newsmen will find it much more difficult to whip up nationalist hysteria and create tension.

If the leaders of the two communities in Cyprus could behave in the same way they would eventually defeat the media that trade in hatred, suspicion and mistrust.




Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2009

[Kifeas]

11:15

(dip) Turkish Cypriot President Says Feels Weak and Angry But Still Hopeful

http://haber.turk.net/ENG/2311910/-dip- ... ll-Hopeful



LEFKOSA (A.A) - 08.08.2009 - Turkish Cypriot "President" Mehmet Ali Talat said on Friday he was feeling weak and angry in peace talks with Greek Cypriot leader following European Court of Justice (ECJ) ruling on Orams case and a British court ruling that dismissed an application to overturn a ban on direct flights between Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC) and Britain.

In a case known as "Orams case", the ECJ ruled in favor of a Greek Cypriot, Meletis Apostolides, who sued in 2004 in a Greek Cyprus court for the return of land his family abandoned after Turkey's military intervention in 1974.

However, Talat said he was more hopeful when compared to one year ago when Cyprus peace talks were re-launched to settle the Cyprus problem.

Talat and Greek Cypriot leader Demetris Christofias have held 40 meetings since September 3, 2008 to reunify the island. They will start second round of talks on September 3, 2009. Turkish Cypriots aim to complete negotiations by the end of this year and hold a referendum at the beginning of 2010.

"The most relieving thing for us is Turkey's support. Turkey is the only country that backs us," he told Turkey's state-run broacaster TRT in an interview.

Talat said a deadlock could emerge in negotiations with Greek Cypriots on property issue, adding that Greek Cypriots refuse the UN parameter of bi-communal solution. (TÇ-BRC)

Does anybody know why Talat feels weak and angry because of the two court decisions? Why and under what circumstances would someone feel agree with court decisions and legal findings? Is it because he knows he had acted illegally and was hoping to get away with it, in one way or another, but then realizes that this cannot or will not be the likelihood? Is it because he realized that his side is no longer able to blackmail and extort the Greek Cypriot side, dictating its own terms and understanding of a solution? Is it because he was spoiled so much, that he was made to believe in his own self-righteous claims and rhetoric? Is it due to a cognitive dissonance syndrome?

Talat says that Turkey is the only country on this planet that backs the Turkish Cypriot cause. Does he ever wonder why only a single country -in his own words which are not far from the truth- rallies behind his side’s theories and claims in Cyprus? Is it because the entire planet is stupid or corrupted, and thus unable or unwilling to see the truth and the righteousness of the Turkish cause in Cyprus, and only occupying Turkey is so wise and magnanimous to see and recognize it? Is it because GCs and Greeks in general are so big, strong and powerful in the world scène, that they are able to squeeze the arms of the entire international community to the extent of forcing them to “ignore” justice and logic, in favor of the Greek Cypriot cause?