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[shahmaran]

As far as the rest of your baseless accusations, I will not bother to type anything again since I already did:

Now that's a surprise I would love to believe in!

I said you either don't or even if you do you make sure it is swept under the carpet with lame historical justifications, now don't tell me that is not true because all I have to do is fetch any of your posts, since that is ALL you say.

No mate, I simply remind you the rest of the truth you choose to forget, and I never denied that TCs suffered or had casualties as you falsely claimed. Since you want to appropriate blame for past actions then we have to appropriate blame correctly, looking at the whole story, and not just a small part of it.

So when you talk about your suffering and casualties (which I never denied) in an effort to put the blame on our side in order to excuse the illegalities and crimes you commit as we speak, then why shouldn't I remind you of the rest of the story that you choose to forget, and which shows that while GCs have some blame, most of the blame in fact lies with Turkey and TCs?

Apparently what I say ruins your effort of trying to excuse the crimes and illegalities you commit today, and having no way to refute the truths that I say, you get mad and you express your anger by personally attacking me with baseless accusations and lies.

You are the bastard who claimed my grandfather had died from "natural causes" and that he should "rot in hell", who then continues to call me the liar and the racist.

You absolute wanker, you are still here talking?

What the fuck can you possibly give me other than a crappy video and a document with false information, which I have showed in your face on so many occasions?

You can talk all day Piratis, won't change a thing...

[shahmaran]

All the years that I have read this forum, I must say that I have never come across anybody who talks more sense than Piratis. His posts are absolutely spot on almost every time.

You must be just as thick as he is then...

[Simon]

I must be because I don't agree with you...

Another thought-provoking comment. Keep up the good work.

Just as Piratis said, you cannot beat his arguments so you resut to name calling, as your last post to him proves.

[shahmaran]

I must be because I don't agree with you...

Another thought-provoking comment. Keep up the good work.

Sorry I did not realise being Piratis's little cheer leader was considered to be an argument nor "thought provoking".

If you keep it up he might even take you to the changing rooms after I'm done with him

[Simon]

I wasn't making an argument, nor was my comment aimed at you to provoke any thoughts in your tiny skull. It was a mere observation on Piratis' posts since I started reading this forum. Big difference.

There is also a big difference between agreeing with someone and being a cheer leader. I guess that must mean you're VP's cheer leader? But for someone who can't see legality from illegality, I wouldn't expect you to spot the difference.

I don't think I need to go anywhere with Piratis. He has consistently raped you on this forum. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that you're his bitch.

[shahmaran]

I wasn't making an argument, nor was my comment aimed at you to provoke any thoughts in your tiny skull. It was a mere observation on Piratis' posts since I started reading this forum. Big difference.

There is also a big difference between agreeing with someone and being a cheer leader. I guess that must mean you're VP's cheer leader? But for someone who can't see legality from illegality, I wouldn't expect you to spot the difference.

I don't think I need to go anywhere with Piratis. He has consistently raped you on this forum. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that you're his bitch.

For someone who has been here for 4 years and supposedly "reads" everything he says yet still only has just over 1200 posts, I would say you are either a moron who has nothing to contribute, or you are indeed another alias for this propagandist arsehole called Piratis, after all he is an admin and deserves all the "help" he can get

People don't "win" arguments by posting the same shit video and dubious document over and over again Simon, but then what would you know, you barely contribute.

Now kindly take your pompoms and go play elsewhere and let Pissartist reply for himself....

[Gabira]

I sure hope that at least one of those 'angels' in the photo was a relative of Piratis' ... that's enough justification to have executed any or all of them. Regardless, there is no proof that they were executed by the Turkish Army. They could have been killed by GC's for all we know.

[Simon]

Firstly, I never said I read "everything", this is your own silly assumption. I read the forum when I get the chance.

Probably unlike yourself, I have a life, so I don't get the chance to be a prolific poster. I drop in now and again, read what I can, and make comments when I can. There have been periods where I have been away from the forum for a long time. Not that I have to justify anything to you. I take it that you are now judging a person's argument by how much they post? Your arguments grow ever more ridiculous in your desperate squirming. Many of the issues on the forum simply get repeated over and over again. I do not have the time to keep repeating myself.

You call his arguments dubious, and yet you can't challenge them. All you do is keep banging on about this same video, which has not been shown in this thread. And you accuse Piratis of repeating himself. Like that last post to him, you did not address his actual argument, but just personally attacked him and started going on about your grandad. Now THAT is the sign of a moron with nothing to contribute. I could post another 500 posts calling you and VP wankers, would that mean I have someting to contribute, like yourself? Like I said, your comments are ridiculous to say the least.

Anyway I'm off. Don't know when I'll be back to read more of your nonsense. Like I said, I have a life.

[Piratis]

As far as the rest of your baseless accusations, I will not bother to type anything again since I already did:

Now that's a surprise I would love to believe in!

I said you either don't or even if you do you make sure it is swept under the carpet with lame historical justifications, now don't tell me that is not true because all I have to do is fetch any of your posts, since that is ALL you say.

No mate, I simply remind you the rest of the truth you choose to forget, and I never denied that TCs suffered or had casualties as you falsely claimed. Since you want to appropriate blame for past actions then we have to appropriate blame correctly, looking at the whole story, and not just a small part of it.

So when you talk about your suffering and casualties (which I never denied) in an effort to put the blame on our side in order to excuse the illegalities and crimes you commit as we speak, then why shouldn't I remind you of the rest of the story that you choose to forget, and which shows that while GCs have some blame, most of the blame in fact lies with Turkey and TCs?

Apparently what I say ruins your effort of trying to excuse the crimes and illegalities you commit today, and having no way to refute the truths that I say, you get mad and you express your anger by personally attacking me with baseless accusations and lies.

You are the bastard who claimed my grandfather had died from "natural causes" and that he should "rot in hell", who then continues to call me the liar and the racist.

You absolute wanker, you are still here talking?

You first said to me to "rot in hell" mate. Now, just like with the history of Cyprus, you seem to be mixing the order of things. And for your grandfather I said he should rot in hell only if he was a partition supported. And he did die from natural causes, but of course you want to blame GCs for everything. You even blamed us for the emigration of TCs in the early 50s, during British rule and before any conflict

What the fuck can you possibly give me other than a crappy video and a document with false information, which I have showed in your face on so many occasions?

You can talk all day Piratis, won't change a thing...

The video is a British one (your friends) and the document is a report made by EU. I choose always sources that are either Independent or hostile to us, so nobody can claim that what they say is GC propaganda.

And what did you "show on my face"? Give me a link where you managed to refute with evidence anything said in the video and the report.

But if you want to give you even more sources that confirm those things then I will. The video shows how the TCs started the inter-communal conflict. Here is from a British anti-GC site:

Not trusting Foot, Grivas' EOKA resumed its campaign in late March. Fifty bombs exploded in the first ten days of April. Foot sent a letter to Grivas on 16th April, in which he appealed for a ceasefire and although Grivas acquiesced he did not reply fearing a British attempt to track the latter back. The Turkish community was whipped into a frenzy by broadcasts from Turkey calling for the partition of Cyprus. Violence between the turks and Cypriots broke out in early June and climaxed when eight Greeks were massacred in a cornfield near the Turkish village of Geunyeli. Again, the British were forced into partitioning the two communities. At this stage, the British Army in Cyprus reached it highest number as more units arrived from mid-June. There were now twenty-six fighting units in Cyprus. In desperation, Fott ordered an island wide swoop and they arrested fifty turks and 1,500 Greeks. In under two months ninety-five civilians had been killed in the inter communal violence and many more injured.

http://www.britains-smallwars.com/cyprus/war.html

The rioting shown in the video was on the 7th of June 1958. The massacre of the 8 GCs on the 12th of June 1958. 100 of people died in the conflicts that followed. But of course you don't know about this, right? You have been taught that it is the "evil GCs" that started the conflict, and they "forgot" to mention to you the begging of the conflict. (which is the most important thing when you want to know how something started).

[shahmaran]

Firstly, I never said I read "everything", this is your own silly assumption. I read the forum when I get the chance.

Probably unlike yourself, I have a life, so I don't get the chance to be a prolific poster. I drop in now and again, read what I can, and make comments when I can. There have been periods where I have been away from the forum for a long time. Not that I have to justify anything to you. I take it that you are now judging a person's argument by how much they post? Your arguments grow ever more ridiculous in your desperate squirming. Many of the issues on the forum simply get repeated over and over again. I do not have the time to keep repeating myself.

You call his arguments dubious, and yet you can't challenge them. All you do is keep banging on about this same video, which has not been shown in this thread. And you accuse Piratis of repeating himself. Like that last post to him, you did not address his actual argument, but just personally attacked him and started going on about your grandad. Now THAT is the sign of a moron with nothing to contribute. I could post another 500 posts calling you and VP wankers, would that mean I have someting to contribute, like yourself? Like I said, your comments are ridiculous to say the least.

Anyway I'm off. Don't know when I'll be back to read more of your nonsense. Like I said, I have a life.

If you are not around much then don't comment on disputes that have bee on going for ages as you clearly have no idea.

Piratis has 1 argument, 1 video and 1 document, each one has been repeatedly bashed open over and over yet he seems to love to come back for more, obviously you were not around or might have "missed" it during on of your casual glances through the forum. Not that your opinion matters the slightest bit, you should at least know what the hell you are talking about, so go on then, fuck off and live your "life"