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Postby shahmaran » Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:59 pm

Thanks... :roll:
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Postby umit07 » Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:20 pm

Gabira wrote:
umit07 wrote:@Gabira

What the fuck is wrong with you? Only a person with Psychotic tendencies would make such comments.


Olan Umit, what comments are you referring to ?


Olan Peksemet

Gabira wrote:All we need is for the Turkish Army to finish off the half assed job they did in 74'


WTF is that supposed to mean? Can you elaborate?

Gabira wrote:I hope the army did eliminate these 'cocksuckers'.


Now, what do you know about the people in the photo? All I know is that they were killed after being taken hostage. How can you judge that they "deserved" their fate?
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Postby shahmaran » Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:37 pm

Arkadaşlar biribirmizi yemeyelim lütfen :lol:
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Postby Piratis » Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:02 pm

So, since you condemn and accept the crimes committed towards the TC community, as opposed to the most of the extremists on this forum such as Piratis, Oracle, Sotos, who never EVER admit such crimes took place


Yet more lies from a well know liar of the forum.

I also condemn any criminal actions against innocent TCs, I condemn the actions of EOKA B and the actions of the cupists.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 211#477211

I do know about and fully recognize your suffering during that time.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 840#478840

Our side has clearly and officially condemned the coup and everything that resulted in the death or suffering of TCs

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 536#457536

Did I ever deny that TCs suffered or had casualties? Never.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 503#477503

These are just some examples. You can find 100s of posts where I condemn the crimes against innocent TCs in a very direct and specific way. (unlike you)

If we are equally guilty on this island...


First of all we are not equally guilty. You have committed far more crimes against us, killing far more innocent people than we did, and causing suffering to us for far longer periods of time. Most importantly it is TCs and Turkey who initiated the conflict and war during which innocent people from both sides died. Therefore if we are going to find who is more guilty then the answer is clearly the TCs and Turkey.

Still, we do not demand the punishment of TCs and Turks for past and current crimes. What we want is for our island to finally be allowed to be free and democratic, with the human rights of ALL Cypriots respected, without any innocent people being "punished" for crimes committed in the past by members of their community or "motherland".

However this does not mean I am just going to forget everything and be a minority under a GC government, in my own country.


And here lies the root of the problem. Nobody asked from you to be under a "GC government", but under a Cypriot government where your community will be proportionately represented, and every TC would be an equal citizen just like every GC and every other Cypriot citizen.

What you demand, to divide Cypriot citizens based on their religion and language and create some form of Apartheid in Cyprus so that your community can have a lot more power than their proportion, on the expense of every other Cypriot, is something racist. Unfortunately you support things that are even more racist than South Africa of Apartheid. You want to ethnically cleanse the majority of Cypriots from half of their island in order to artificially create some "Turkish State" on the stolen land and fully divide and segregate the Cypriot people. This kind of racism was not even seen in South African of Apartheid.

If what you demanded for the TC community in Cyprus was something fair then why doesn't Turkey give the same to the Greeks there? Or maybe it is fine for them to be a "minority in their own country" (just like every other minority), and only your minority should have the right to overwrite democracy and have Ottoman style gains on the expense of everybody else?

With each one of your posts you provide evidence of how racist you are and this is something everybody in this forum can see.
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Postby Piratis » Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:03 pm

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Postby YFred » Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:06 pm

shahmaran wrote:Arkadaşlar biribirmizi yemeyelim lütfen :lol:

Shah, we can't condemn all the wrongs that the RoC had perpetrated against the TCs and condone the actions of some fanatic Turks. Turkey is responsible for their actions as is RoC and Greece for their fanatic’s actions. However, they can't use that against Turkey because they committed exact same crimes and are in the EU. So obviously the standards of countries joining the EU is not as high as everybody pretends. Didn't the Germans do the same before, and The French in Algeria, the Spanish against the Basque people, Italians in North Africa and the Brits?. Which one of the EU countries' hands have no blood on them?
So, when its wrong it is plainly wrong, it does not matter who did it.
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Postby Nikitas » Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:21 pm

Let recall the self description of this operation- "Peace Operation".

And look at the photo. Five soldiers surrendered, their weapons taken from them and are being treated as if it is all over, for them anyway. A friendly cigarette being offered by one of the captors. Minutes later they were executed with a bullet in the head each.

Now do you know of many European armies that pride themselves for their military tradition who behave as above? The Nazis had prisoner of war camps where they allowed access to the Red Cross. Our former president Clerides was a prisoner of war in those camps.

SO do not fall back on this Turkish cynical approach that everyone is doing it etc. No, not everyone is doing it.

When the bigger mass graves, the ones in the east of the island are uncovered I hope some TCs will demand an explanation and disclosure about who planned this deliberate policy of ethnic cleansing. Because some nameable people did plan it and some others put it into action.
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:13 pm

Nikitas wrote:And look at the photo. Five soldiers surrendered, their weapons taken from them...

We don't know if they had any weapons and strangely enough not a single photo from the whole set show any. As you may recall, weapons were very hard to come by due to most being “lost” as a result of the coup.

When my 46 year old father was sent to the “front”, close to the Tymbou airport, he was given a stick along with three others to “guard” the road leading to the village so they only lasted 24 hours while it was quiet, and the moment things changed they fled! What could they possibly do with sticks?
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Postby YFred » Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:08 am

Get Real! wrote:
Nikitas wrote:And look at the photo. Five soldiers surrendered, their weapons taken from them...

We don't know if they had any weapons and strangely enough not a single photo from the whole set show any. As you may recall, weapons were very hard to come by due to most being “lost” as a result of the coup.

When my 46 year old father was sent to the “front”, close to the Tymbou airport, he was given a stick along with three others to “guard” the road leading to the village so they only lasted 24 hours while it was quiet, and the moment things changed they fled! What could they possibly do with sticks?

The irony is, thats the image I have of the elders gathering with sticks and metal poles and one shotgunn to defend the village from the GCs in 63. The only difference was they had nowhere to run to.
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Postby shahmaran » Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:09 am

Nikitas wrote:Let recall the self description of this operation- "Peace Operation".

And look at the photo. Five soldiers surrendered, their weapons taken from them and are being treated as if it is all over, for them anyway. A friendly cigarette being offered by one of the captors. Minutes later they were executed with a bullet in the head each.

Now do you know of many European armies that pride themselves for their military tradition who behave as above? The Nazis had prisoner of war camps where they allowed access to the Red Cross. Our former president Clerides was a prisoner of war in those camps.

SO do not fall back on this Turkish cynical approach that everyone is doing it etc. No, not everyone is doing it.

When the bigger mass graves, the ones in the east of the island are uncovered I hope some TCs will demand an explanation and disclosure about who planned this deliberate policy of ethnic cleansing. Because some nameable people did plan it and some others put it into action.


Come on Nikitas, are you saying the murderer of 6 million people was not as bad as the Turkish soldiers, because they let the Red Cross in?

The Nazi torture went on for many years as opposed to the war here that was only weeks.

Shall I post the photos of the executed TC soldiers and civilians Nikitas?

Every single one shot in the head! Why?!

Almost every European country has just as much or much more blood on their hands. There is no doubt!

But we are still asked to look up to the so called "civilised West" god dam hypocrites!
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