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[-mikkie2-]

So it's very easy to hand it over, there's no TCs/Turks to relocate and all that whereas in other places like Morphou, it's mostly TCs who migrated from Paphos area and they really don't have nowhere else to go and they have no intention to go back to Pafos.

I wouldn't be so sure Metecyp. One individual I spoke to who currently resides in Morphou said he would go back to Paphos.

[metecyp]

I wouldn't be so sure Metecyp. One individual I spoke to who currently resides in Morphou said he would go back to Paphos.

I'm sure there are some who would like to go back. Especially the ones who left a lot in Pafos and who got so little in Morphou.

[demetriou_74]

varosha could easily become like Monacco. the beaches are perfect however evey hotel you see is trashed. i know somebody who owns a large strip of land on the beach and him and his family have been saving for 30 years to regain their land. the money will be spent on legal fees.

[cannedmoose]

If it ever becomes like Monaco I'll never go there... one of the brashest, nouveau-riche filled places I've ever been... worse even than St. Tropez and that's saying something.

[Main_Source]

Its ethically wrong to dangle the homes of refugees, who were forced to leave, for some kind of trade off.

If the land means nothing, then give it back.

MODERATOR: Insult removed.

[RAFAELLA]

In summary, Talat says they offered to the GCs Varosha, in return for the lifting of the ambargos and opening of the ports at the meetings in Brussels and the GC side very strongly rejected this. He says GC side always demands the return of Varosha but they are not sincere about it. Among other things, he also said that their vision is the vision of solution. He added that they don't have a separatist agenda, but unfortunately the GC leadership lately has been behaving in a separatist manner..
Sorry, only in Turkish:
http://www.hurriyetim.com.tr/haber/0,,s ... 544,00.asp

The following article reveals the truth behind Talat's accusations that Gcs rejected the return of Varosha. He clearly said that they didn't propose the proprietorship of Varosha BUT only the control of Varosha under the Gc "administration"! ....in exchange of "everything except recognition" as he stated. The man is insane and we are waiting from such kind of people to find a solution

Talat says that Turkey knew but did not approve the proposal for returning Varosha to the Greek Cypriots in return for the lifting of the so-called embargo on the Turkish Cypriots
Turkish Cypriot daily YENI DUZEN newspaper (12.07.05) reports that the Turkish Cypriot leader, Mr Mehmet Ali Talat, said yesterday that Turkey knew but did not approve the proposal made by the Turkish Cypriots in Brussels for returning the fenced area of Varosha to the Greek Cypriots in exchange for the lifting of the so-called embargoes.

In exclusive statements to the paper, Mr Talat noted that it was not the first time that the issue had been discussed, that it came onto the agenda during meetings the Greek ambassador in Luxembourg had and that the minutes of these meetings have been shared with Turkey. Mr Talat said that some openings by the Turkish Cypriot side came onto the agenda during these meetings, aiming at forcing the Greek Cypriot side to get into action.

Mr Talat added: “We have proposed to give Varosha to the Greek Cypriot administration and in return we asked for ‘everything except recognition’. We asked for the decision regarding the Famagusta port and the Tymbou airport being closed to be withdrawn for ever. We asked for the lifting of the isolations and the cultural and sport embargoes. Turkey was informed about these proposals, but it is true that we did not have its approval. It was not said ‘it can be done’, but at the same time it was not said ‘it cannot be done’. In any case, if our proposal had been accepted, there would be a negotiations process before putting it into practice. The details would be discussed.

It is not right to accept as ‘lie’ or ‘wrong’ everything that former President Denktas said. It is true that the great majority of the land of Varosha belongs to the Evkaf (religious foundation). We have investigated this and saw it. The registries of the title deeds of Varosha, which had been stolen from the Famagusta Department of Land and Surveys, were found in 1974 in the store of a hotel in Varosha. Furthermore, during the Ottoman period three separate papers were kept for all the properties, one of which is in Turkey. As it is understood from this, more than 95 % of Varosha is Evkaf property. Now, you could say ‘how can you propose to give to the Greek Cypriot administration a property that belongs to Evkaf? We have not proposed to give the proprietorship of Varosha. We only proposed to give its control to the Greek Cypriot administration. And in return we asked for the end of the isolations. …”.
http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/pio/pio.nsf/A ... enDocument

PS. In Addition, Talat cannot even go to toilet without asking TR's permission

[detailer]

I wouldn't be so sure Metecyp. One individual I spoke to who currently resides in Morphou said he would go back to Paphos.

I'm sure there are some who would like to go back. Especially the ones who left a lot in Pafos and who got so little in Morphou.

Not in large numbers . There are many reasons for that. What about the education for school children for example?

To be honest, I don't think that there are so many people who left that much in paphos. People tend to exagerate that and most people are actually not from paphos town, but the villages which ar isolated since they are very far from city and there is no investment in those areas by "RoC" before and after 74.

[Alexandros Lordos]

MODERATOR: This was a promising thread until it got side-tracked. I've deleted various irrelevant one-liners in the hope that the thread can be rejuvenated somehow.