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The Orams have reportedly been left without a lawyer

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby The Cypriot » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:46 pm

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roseandchan wrote:thanks for the info halil, but i honestly don't see they have any defence left, other than in some way to counter claim the person who sold them the land in the first place. pass the buck so to speak just like the uk goverment have done.
it is one big mess but i do feel the trnc gov shoud be made to sort it out, not the orams.( not that they are friends of mine and i think they could have handled things better.) but it does need resolving.

Rose, it takes two to tango. RoC and TRNC have sat on their arses for 35 years, could have come to an agreement and chose not to. I don't blame the Orams or the TC that sold it to them.


Do you blame the refugee for seeking justice, Yfred?
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Postby YFred » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:52 pm

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roseandchan wrote:thanks for the info halil, but i honestly don't see they have any defence left, other than in some way to counter claim the person who sold them the land in the first place. pass the buck so to speak just like the uk goverment have done.
it is one big mess but i do feel the trnc gov shoud be made to sort it out, not the orams.( not that they are friends of mine and i think they could have handled things better.) but it does need resolving.

Rose, it takes two to tango. RoC and TRNC have sat on their arses for 35 years, could have come to an agreement and chose not to. I don't blame the Orams or the TC that sold it to them.


Do you blame the refugee for seeking justice, Yfred?

No, if that’s what it was, but unfortunately this is not that. This case is a blatant attempt by the RoC to crash TRNC economy.
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:58 pm

YFred wrote:This case is a blatant attempt by the RoC to crash TRNC economy.

They do a fine job of that themselves! :lol:


Ever heard of the expression... "Don't build your house on sand" ?
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Postby YFred » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:59 pm

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YFred wrote:This case is a blatant attempt by the RoC to crash TRNC economy.

They do a fine job of that themselves! :lol:

You are right there, but that is not an excuse to help them is it?
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Postby The Cypriot » Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:01 pm

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roseandchan wrote:thanks for the info halil, but i honestly don't see they have any defence left, other than in some way to counter claim the person who sold them the land in the first place. pass the buck so to speak just like the uk goverment have done.
it is one big mess but i do feel the trnc gov shoud be made to sort it out, not the orams.( not that they are friends of mine and i think they could have handled things better.) but it does need resolving.

Rose, it takes two to tango. RoC and TRNC have sat on their arses for 35 years, could have come to an agreement and chose not to. I don't blame the Orams or the TC that sold it to them.


Do you blame the refugee for seeking justice, Yfred?

No, if that’s what it was, but unfortunately this is not that. This case is a blatant attempt by the RoC to crash TRNC economy.


An economy built on selling the justice seeking refugee's stolen home? It deserved to be crashed in that case. And he deserved legal aid.
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Postby YFred » Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:11 pm

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roseandchan wrote:thanks for the info halil, but i honestly don't see they have any defence left, other than in some way to counter claim the person who sold them the land in the first place. pass the buck so to speak just like the uk goverment have done.
it is one big mess but i do feel the trnc gov shoud be made to sort it out, not the orams.( not that they are friends of mine and i think they could have handled things better.) but it does need resolving.

Rose, it takes two to tango. RoC and TRNC have sat on their arses for 35 years, could have come to an agreement and chose not to. I don't blame the Orams or the TC that sold it to them.


Do you blame the refugee for seeking justice, Yfred?

No, if that’s what it was, but unfortunately this is not that. This case is a blatant attempt by the RoC to crash TRNC economy.


An economy built on selling the justice seeking refugee's stolen home? It deserved to be crashed in that case. And he deserved legal aid.

Even if for that piece of land, there is an equivelant piece of land in the south in the hands of the RoC for 35 years? There we disagree.
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Postby The Cypriot » Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:25 pm

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An economy built on selling the justice seeking refugee's stolen home? It deserved to be crashed in that case. And he deserved legal aid.

Even if for that piece of land, there is an equivelant piece of land in the south in the hands of the RoC for 35 years? There we disagree.


He has a right to his land, Freddie. No one can take that away. And the regime in the north had no right to let it be sold and to build an economy on his loss. Any land in the south, belonging to a displaced TC, should have also been protected. And, if it hasn't, then there is legal recource. The refugee's victory should be celebrated by all displaced Cypriots.
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Postby Kifeas » Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:29 pm

YFred wrote:
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YFred wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
YFred wrote:
roseandchan wrote:thanks for the info halil, but i honestly don't see they have any defence left, other than in some way to counter claim the person who sold them the land in the first place. pass the buck so to speak just like the uk goverment have done.
it is one big mess but i do feel the trnc gov shoud be made to sort it out, not the orams.( not that they are friends of mine and i think they could have handled things better.) but it does need resolving.

Rose, it takes two to tango. RoC and TRNC have sat on their arses for 35 years, could have come to an agreement and chose not to. I don't blame the Orams or the TC that sold it to them.


Do you blame the refugee for seeking justice, Yfred?

No, if that’s what it was, but unfortunately this is not that. This case is a blatant attempt by the RoC to crash TRNC economy.


An economy built on selling the justice seeking refugee's stolen home? It deserved to be crashed in that case. And he deserved legal aid.

Even if for that piece of land, there is an equivelant piece of land in the south in the hands of the RoC for 35 years? There we disagree.


Really YFred, really??? "...there is an equivalent piece of land in the south in the hands of the RoC for 35 years?" Is it so?? Better check your facts and figures right, because the value of usurped GC properties in the north is by all accounts at least eightfold ( x8 ) the value of TC properties abandoned in the south!!!
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Postby YFred » Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:38 pm

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An economy built on selling the justice seeking refugee's stolen home? It deserved to be crashed in that case. And he deserved legal aid.

Even if for that piece of land, there is an equivelant piece of land in the south in the hands of the RoC for 35 years? There we disagree.


He has a right to his land, Freddie. No one can take that away. And the regime in the north had no right to let it be sold and to build an economy on his loss. Any land in the south, belonging to a displaced TC, should have also been protected. And, if it hasn't, then there is legal recource. The refugee's victory should be celebrated by all displaced Cypriots.

Thats the whole point. On paper yes he has. In reality no he has not even to this day, EU Citizens have applied to get their land back and 3 years on and no such thing. RoC is very good at fooling everyone in how good they are. What you guys don't want to understand is that it makes no difference who has the land in their posesion. When it comes to the peace agreement, it will be reconciled against the land being held in the south. If money is owed than it will be paid in either direction.
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Postby YFred » Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:42 pm

Kifeas wrote:
YFred wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
YFred wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
YFred wrote:
roseandchan wrote:thanks for the info halil, but i honestly don't see they have any defence left, other than in some way to counter claim the person who sold them the land in the first place. pass the buck so to speak just like the uk goverment have done.
it is one big mess but i do feel the trnc gov shoud be made to sort it out, not the orams.( not that they are friends of mine and i think they could have handled things better.) but it does need resolving.

Rose, it takes two to tango. RoC and TRNC have sat on their arses for 35 years, could have come to an agreement and chose not to. I don't blame the Orams or the TC that sold it to them.


Do you blame the refugee for seeking justice, Yfred?

No, if that’s what it was, but unfortunately this is not that. This case is a blatant attempt by the RoC to crash TRNC economy.


An economy built on selling the justice seeking refugee's stolen home? It deserved to be crashed in that case. And he deserved legal aid.

Even if for that piece of land, there is an equivelant piece of land in the south in the hands of the RoC for 35 years? There we disagree.


Really YFred, really??? "...there is an equivalent piece of land in the south in the hands of the RoC for 35 years?" Is it so?? Better check your facts and figures right, because the value of usurped GC properties in the north is by all accounts at least eightfold ( x8 ) the value of TC properties abandoned in the south!!!

Kifeas, do you know the particular case? Was this TC given 8X what he has in the south? If you take the case of this TC, I suspect that his land in the south is worth much more than the land he has in the north. Are you kidding?
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