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[Get Real!]

The Orams case is of course very significant to the aspirations of the ROC.....

Thanks for the free tour of your brain… it was one of the most psychopathic posts I’ have ever come across!

But, this bit was my favorite…

“Does he even remember the land that his family left in the North?”

I’m sure Apostolides remembers his house a lot more than you can remember who fucked your mother that led to your birth, yet you still call someone “daddy’ today!


Anyway, here’s an article to help your brain see right from wrong…

“A defeat for ethnic cleansing in Cyprus – and for the EU’s moral idiocy”

http://greatersurbiton.wordpress.com/20 ... al-idiocy/

[EU Ctzn]

Cypriot,
Thank your for your comments which are noted.

I very much take the line of Justice Jack in the UK Court of Appeal.
The orams case is a civil litigation case. The matter of resolution of the Cyprus problem is ill suited to this type of Court.

Of course the ROC has capitalised upon every opportunity to perpetuate the problems and issues of its homeland.
The attempts at settlement were illustrated by the refusal to accept Anan.

When does a refugee stop being a refugee. When he is dead? so how long until the refugee ticket dies completely.
I have seen many refugees in past years. In Africa and in war torn Bosnia. I am afraid that Mr Aposstolides does not come accross to me as such a desperate person.

Do you really want a solution or is vengence the primary goal. I am a firm believer in the age old adage that time is a great healer. Perhaps some ROC citizens accept this. Some clearly do not.
I think that the time for wrongs and rights has now long gone and people should look to the future for the sake of the next generation.
It is just not realistic to expect the demise of the TRNC. There is peace on the Island and the future prosperity of the Island is at stake.
As to interfering, I am sorry that you take this view. It is such a shame to see so many angry and destructive posts on this forum. These posters will, like the refugees die and fade away with time. History, politics and people change their colours like the seasons. In the absence of war and real conlict and with peace prevailing a solution will emerge. Just when and under what terms?

[Get Real!]

After the Ercan judgement I see a shift in the approach of the British Justice System and now they seem to be more in line with their continental counterparts. Thus, after Ercan judgement I am expecting the Orams decision at the Court of Appeal to go against the Orams.

You’re just plain daft for even thinking that there was ever a chance for a leading EU member, like the UK to start violating basic international agreements for the sake of a bunch of bankrupt piss-pots like yourself speared on by corrupt Turkey!

Such an outcome will not bring peace any closer to Cyprus.

Nobody ever said anything about it bringing “peace”, but it will as sure as hell bring reimbursement of some type for ONE refugee victim of Turkish & Turkish Cypriot atrocities and a well deserved punishment to a corrupt and immoral couple who thought they were smart.

As far as property ownership is concenrned by foreigners in TRNC and ROC, the issue of title deeds is a mess on both sides of the border. In many cases the builder sold the house, collected the money and also mortgaged it to the bank and collected more "easy" money. The builder does not intend to pay the mortgage and is quite happy to let the bank sell the property. This is the mess on both sides of the border, it must be a Cypriot thing.

That’s just your feeble attempt to confuse the ethnic cleansing of 185,000 odd Greek Cypriots in 1974 by the Turkish military and many Turkish Cypriots thugs who assisted them, with the RoC’s INTERNAL matter of her incompetent handling of title deeds which can and will be sorted out in time.

Cyprus is divided permanently now bar the shouting.

Wishful thinking always brings temporary comfort…

[YFred]

Cypriot,
Thank your for your comments which are noted.

I very much take the line of Justice Jack in the UK Court of Appeal.
The orams case is a civil litigation case. The matter of resolution of the Cyprus problem is ill suited to this type of Court.

Of course the ROC has capitalised upon every opportunity to perpetuate the problems and issues of its homeland.
The attempts at settlement were illustrated by the refusal to accept Anan.

When does a refugee stop being a refugee. When he is dead? so how long until the refugee ticket dies completely.
I have seen many refugees in past years. In Africa and in war torn Bosnia. I am afraid that Mr Aposstolides does not come accross to me as such a desperate person.

Do you really want a solution or is vengence the primary goal. I am a firm believer in the age old adage that time is a great healer. Perhaps some ROC citizens accept this. Some clearly do not.
I think that the time for wrongs and rights has now long gone and people should look to the future for the sake of the next generation.
It is just not realistic to expect the demise of the TRNC. There is peace on the Island and the future prosperity of the Island is at stake.
As to interfering, I am sorry that you take this view. It is such a shame to see so many angry and destructive posts on this forum. These posters will, like the refugees die and fade away with time. History, politics and people change their colours like the seasons. In the absence of war and real conlict and with peace prevailing a solution will emerge. Just when and under what terms?

Welcome to the forum and take no notice of the toothless pit bulls here. They are very good at growling but have a bite of a mosquito. Come end of the year, they will jump up and down and round and round in circles claiming that their president has sold them cheaply.

As to the Orams, it aint over till the fat lady sings and I haven’t heard her yet. The real reason for the case is politically motivated and its purpose is to cause complete collapse of the TRNC economy.

Regarding refugees, unfortunately in South Cyprus, children of the refugees are able to apply for and get awarded refugee status. So 300 years down the line and you will still have GC claiming to be refugees.

[Get Real!]

Do you really want a solution or is vengence the primary goal.

Gee… I don’t know!

Do you suspect that Greek Cypriots might be angry that you killed some 5,000 people, ethnically cleansed 185,000 more, raped about 100 women, took about 1500 prisoner to Turkish prisons, and stole their homes, furniture, cars, businesses, and everything else they possessed?

[Get Real!]

I am a firm believer in the age old adage that time is a great healer.

I’m a firm believer of an even better adage…

“An eye for an eye and THEN… time is a great healer!”

You like?

[The Cypriot]

Cypriot,
Thank your for your comments which are noted.

I very much take the line of Justice Jack in the UK Court of Appeal.
The orams case is a civil litigation case. The matter of resolution of the Cyprus problem is ill suited to this type of Court.

Where else is a refugee to go for justice?

Of course the ROC has capitalised upon every opportunity to perpetuate the problems and issues of its homeland.

What else can it do? And why is seeking and securing justice perpetuating a problem? If every Cypriot refugee was to secure justice this would help solve the problem.

The attempts at settlement were illustrated by the refusal to accept Anan.

The reasons for refusal are well documented. A settlement has to be acceptable or it isn't a settlement.

When does a refugee stop being a refugee. When he is dead?

When he can return home or accepts compensation for his loss.

so how long until the refugee ticket dies completely.

Never, for their next of kin will be able to claim the land. And their next of kin.

I have seen many refugees in past years. In Africa and in war torn Bosnia. I am afraid that Mr Aposstolides does not come accross to me as such a desperate person.

Desperate or not, he is a refugee. After 35 years he rebuilt his life. Good luck to him and all Cypriots for doing so. Good luck to them all, as EU citizens like you, in securing justice.

Do you really want a solution or is vengence the primary goal.

Justice and freedom are the primary goals.

I am a firm believer in the age old adage that time is a great healer. Perhaps some ROC citizens accept this. Some clearly do not.

Perhaps if you were forced to flee your home in fear of your life you'd think differently.

I think that the time for wrongs and rights has now long gone and people should look to the future for the sake of the next generation.

There are still 40,000 wrongs preventing the next generation from looking to the future.

It is just not realistic to expect the demise of the TRNC. There is peace on the Island and the future prosperity of the Island is at stake.

It's not realistic to expect those who have been wronged not to seek and secure justice.

As to interfering, I am sorry that you take this view. It is such a shame to see so many angry and destructive posts on this forum. These posters will, like the refugees die and fade away with time. History, politics and people change their colours like the seasons. In the absence of war and real conlict and with peace prevailing a solution will emerge. Just when and under what terms?

The war continues and is waged in the only way it can be, given the circumstances. And it will continue, until Cyprus is free.

Just as if Britain's northern towns had been occupied by Germany, with statues of Hitler and swastikas everywhere, the British wouldn't give up the struggle until their country was free.

[YFred]

I am a firm believer in the age old adage that time is a great healer.

I’m a firm believer of an even better adage…

“An eye for an eye and THEN… time is a great healer!”

You like?

Eye for an eye leaves everybody blind old boy, what?

[kurupetos]

I am a firm believer in the age old adage that time is a great healer.

I’m a firm believer of an even better adage…

“An eye for an eye and THEN… time is a great healer!”

You like?

Eye for an eye leaves everybody blind old boy, what?

Enna gopso taftia sou je'nada gamo zalatina!

[shahmaran]

The GC's are confusing "justice" with "revenge", it is a classic mistake with a very fine line in between.

It is even more so important not to confuse the 2 if you are planning to live with the same people for the next, well, for ever