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[Viewpoint]

"I understand that you fear her due to our dark past, but thats what it is our past you have learnn to share equally with us"

you're telling me you want Cyprus to share your past...why?

We dont fear her you do, either your English is real bad or you are not being serious here.

okay first of all it is YOUR english thats bad. I was born and raised in America, I'm pretty sure my english is fine.

Second of all, what you said made no sense. I never said you did fear her... YOU said "what it is our past you have learnn to share equally with us" which made NO sense, and learn was spelt wrong.

Don't criticisize when you need criticisizm.

our=Cypriots....make sense now?

[NikosGB23]

"I understand that you fear her due to our dark past, but thats what it is our past you have learnn to share equally with us"

you're telling me you want Cyprus to share your past...why?

We dont fear her you do, either your English is real bad or you are not being serious here.

okay first of all it is YOUR english thats bad. I was born and raised in America, I'm pretty sure my english is fine.

Second of all, what you said made no sense. I never said you did fear her... YOU said "what it is our past you have learnn to share equally with us" which made NO sense, and learn was spelt wrong.

Don't criticisize when you need criticisizm.

our=Cypriots....make sense now?

Which is why I said "WHY WOULD WE (Cyprus) WANT TO SHARE YOUR (Turkey) PAST"...

[The Cypriot]

Nothing has changed, keep collecting your little pieces of paper it will not bring a solution.

It's clear no solution will be forthcoming unless Cypriots are prepared to gift part of their island to Turkey's military, which was, of course, the condition the British set for their withdrawal back in 1959.

Back then Cypriots had not tasted freedom for centuries, and had little or no choice but to accept whatever form of independence, however inadequate, they were offered.

Different circumstances apply today. Cypriots in the free part of the island have enjoyed real freedom since joining the European family in 2004. They will not compromise on this freedom nor endorse the gifting of any more of their land to a foreign power. Why should they? Would any other people, in any other part of the EU?

Is that what a BBF with political equality means?

It's what it means to Turkey's military, I'm afraid.

This is where you have mixed things up its called sharing but of course this is not what you want to do.

Sharing with other Cypriots, who share the same values and love for the island is entirely acceptable; desired even. Sharing with a foreign military, with its own interests, which may diverge from the interests of the island's people, isn't. A mistake was made once, by gifting territory to the British military. Cypriots need guarantees and safeguards that they are not being forced to fall into the same trap again.

[Viewpoint]

Nothing has changed, keep collecting your little pieces of paper it will not bring a solution.

It's clear no solution will be forthcoming unless Cypriots are prepared to gift part of their island to Turkey's military, which was, of course, the condition the British set for their withdrawal back in 1959.

Back then Cypriots had not tasted freedom for centuries, and had little or no choice but to accept whatever form of independence, however inadequate, they were offered.

Different circumstances apply today. Cypriots in the free part of the island have enjoyed real freedom since joining the European family in 2004. They will not compromise on this freedom nor endorse the gifting of any more of their land to a foreign power. Why should they? Would any other people, in any other part of the EU?

Is that what a BBF with political equality means?

It's what it means to Turkey's military, I'm afraid.

This is where you have mixed things up its called sharing but of course this is not what you want to do.

Sharing with other Cypriots, who share the same values and love for the island is entirely acceptable; desired even. Sharing with a foreign military, with its own interests, which may diverge from the interests of the island's people, isn't. A mistake was made once, by gifting territory to the British military. Cypriots need guarantees and safeguards that they are not being forced to fall into the same trap again.

I agree safeguards and guarantees are an intergral part of a solution, yo to need them if you want to get rid of the TA and settlers but we also need them with regards to security and political balance.

[NikosGB23]

ignore this post...

[NikosGB23]

Sharing with other Cypriots, who share the same values and love for the island is entirely acceptable; desired even. Sharing with a foreign military, with its own interests, which may diverge from the interests of the island's people, isn't. A mistake was made once, by gifting territory to the British military. Cypriots need guarantees and safeguards that they are not being forced to fall into the same trap again.

With Turkey's military, non the less.

[NikosGB23]

ignore this post too......

[The Cypriot]

Sharing with other Cypriots, who share the same values and love for the island is entirely acceptable; desired even. Sharing with a foreign military, with its own interests, which may diverge from the interests of the island's people, isn't. A mistake was made once, by gifting territory to the British military. Cypriots need guarantees and safeguards that they are not being forced to fall into the same trap again.

I agree safeguards and guarantees are an intergral part of a solution, yo to need them if you want to get rid of the TA and settlers but we also need them with regards to security and political balance.

Indeed. Removing the influence of Turkey's army is, ultimately, in the interests of all Cypriots. As is ensuring security and equality of opportunity for all citizens, politically and in all aspects of life.

[DT.]

you think turkey can share?! ha

Of course..obviously you do not know Turkey, I understand that you fear her due to our dark past, but thats what it is our past you have learnn to share equally with us under a BBF with political equality.

so whats in our past that stops you from agreeing to one person one vote?

[NikosGB23]

you think turkey can share?! ha

Of course..obviously you do not know Turkey, I understand that you fear her due to our dark past, but thats what it is our past you have learnn to share equally with us under a BBF with political equality.

so whats in our past that stops you from agreeing to one person one vote?

Share our history with who? TCs? The history is rightfully yours, if your TC. if youre just one of turkeys settelers sent from the mainland then its not. i can understand why you would side with turkey on this whole situation but you have to understand it from a GC point of view. We dont even have the support of Greece that the TRNC does of Turkey. so its pretty much the GCs vs TCs and Turkey.