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Horrifying confessions from former Greek Cypriot commandoes.

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Postby AWE » Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:56 am

kurupetos wrote:
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Nikitas wrote:The publication of the book in question was partly financed by the RoC administration.

As Sener Levent asks, when will the TCs and Turks, officially finance a book that describes their war atrocities?


Perhaps when the RoC changes it's school history books to discuss the events of '63 to '74?


No change needed. They are included already.


Yes, Ok, right you are then. I think the Church of Cyprus wants a more balanced version of Cypriot History to be taught in schools as it is threatening a book burning if the history books don't change - or is that the other way around?
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Postby kurupetos » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:08 pm

AWE wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
AWE wrote:
Nikitas wrote:The publication of the book in question was partly financed by the RoC administration.

As Sener Levent asks, when will the TCs and Turks, officially finance a book that describes their war atrocities?


Perhaps when the RoC changes it's school history books to discuss the events of '63 to '74?


No change needed. They are included already.


Yes, Ok, right you are then. I think the Church of Cyprus wants a more balanced version of Cypriot History to be taught in schools as it is threatening a book burning if the history books don't change - or is that the other way around?


I don't understand what you mean. The outline of those events is included in the current version of the history books.
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Postby YFred » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:20 pm

kurupetos wrote:
AWE wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
AWE wrote:
Nikitas wrote:The publication of the book in question was partly financed by the RoC administration.

As Sener Levent asks, when will the TCs and Turks, officially finance a book that describes their war atrocities?


Perhaps when the RoC changes it's school history books to discuss the events of '63 to '74?


No change needed. They are included already.


Yes, Ok, right you are then. I think the Church of Cyprus wants a more balanced version of Cypriot History to be taught in schools as it is threatening a book burning if the history books don't change - or is that the other way around?


I don't understand what you mean. The outline of those events is included in the current version of the history books.

Kurupetos, its not a 2-page outline that needs to be taught, its the full version of the events including the what GCs did to GCs as well as their role in creating the environment of pre 1974. Now do you understand what he meant?
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Re: Horrifying confessions from former Greek Cypriot command

Postby Kifeas » Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:54 pm

halil wrote:After the actor Atilla Olgaç now Cyprus shaked by horrifying confessions from former Greek Cypriot commandoes.

http://www.kibrispostasi.com/index.php/ ... ame/KIBRIS


Group of Greek Cypriot commandoes who were in action on the island during the 20th of July have confessed to taking part in the killing of prisoners of war.

The former troops confessed to taking part in the execution of Cyprus Turkish freedom fighters that had been taken prisoners.

The men said they had pushed the prisoners off a cliff, during what has become known as the Doğruyol raid.The horrifying confessions of the Greek Cypriot commandoes came in a book written by Greek Cypriot writer Panikos Neokleous on the memoirs of former Greek Cypriot soldiers.
The book refers to the memoirs of 50 Greek Cypriots who were part of a commando battalion, which took many Cyprus Turkish fighters prisoner before killing them during the height of the fighting in 1974.

3 former troops from the battalion confessed to pushing to death 20 Cyprus Turkish fighters off a cliff whom they took prisoner.

The Cyprus Turkish fighters who were on defensive positions had been taken prisoners during a raid by the Greek Cypriot commandoes on the night of the 20th of July 1974.


For the record, there is no such mention or confession by anyone of the those 50 GC soldiers interviewed in Neokleous book, namely that 20 TC hostages were executed or thrown to their death down a cliff, more so in relation to the Kocakaya (Doğruyol) raid. I went through the book, and there are only 3 interviewees (out of the 50) that were members of the 31st commando battalion (31 MK) that carried out the raid on the night of 20 /21st July 1974. None of them makes any such remarks about killing hostages in whatever way. It is known however that during the raid, Turkish parachutists and TC fighters in defence of the mountain (it is the long, straight and sharp range that lays north and above Agirda village, as you enter the Nicosia/Kyrenia passage) were taken by surprise and were run over by the 31 MK. Under such conditions (a night raid) it is not unusual that all or most of those in the defense of the mountain would have been completely ...neutralized, ...surrendering or not.
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Postby kurupetos » Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:35 pm

YFred wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
AWE wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
AWE wrote:
Nikitas wrote:The publication of the book in question was partly financed by the RoC administration.

As Sener Levent asks, when will the TCs and Turks, officially finance a book that describes their war atrocities?


Perhaps when the RoC changes it's school history books to discuss the events of '63 to '74?


No change needed. They are included already.


Yes, Ok, right you are then. I think the Church of Cyprus wants a more balanced version of Cypriot History to be taught in schools as it is threatening a book burning if the history books don't change - or is that the other way around?


I don't understand what you mean. The outline of those events is included in the current version of the history books.

Kurupetos, its not a 2-page outline that needs to be taught, its the full version of the events including the what GCs did to GCs as well as their role in creating the environment of pre 1974. Now do you understand what he meant?


If it's about length, I am not sure that a teenager will be interested to learn every single detail.

But, if it's about objectiveness of the events, this is properly maintained.
Give me a specific example that is not included in the current version.
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Postby YFred » Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:50 pm

kurupetos wrote:
YFred wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
AWE wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
AWE wrote:
Nikitas wrote:The publication of the book in question was partly financed by the RoC administration.

As Sener Levent asks, when will the TCs and Turks, officially finance a book that describes their war atrocities?


Perhaps when the RoC changes it's school history books to discuss the events of '63 to '74?


No change needed. They are included already.


Yes, Ok, right you are then. I think the Church of Cyprus wants a more balanced version of Cypriot History to be taught in schools as it is threatening a book burning if the history books don't change - or is that the other way around?


I don't understand what you mean. The outline of those events is included in the current version of the history books.

Kurupetos, its not a 2-page outline that needs to be taught, its the full version of the events including the what GCs did to GCs as well as their role in creating the environment of pre 1974. Now do you understand what he meant?


If it's about length, I am not sure that a teenager will be interested to learn every single detail.

But, if it's about objectiveness of the events, this is properly maintained.
Give me a specific example that is not included in the current version.

Do they mention the meeting after few months in government of the GC section of the RoC discussing how they can entice the TCs to rebel so the 63 events can begin with the ultimate aim of destroying the RoC and enabling enosis with Greece as well as who was at that meeting.
I am sure they will be very interested in what Makarios, TPapa, Klerides, Samson and Yorgadjis and the gang got up to in those early days. I wonder how the history of Cyprus would have panned out if this info was available to all decent GCs.
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