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[elko]

As it stands, the current ROC is not constitutional simply because it is not in accordance with the constitution of ROC.

The RoC constitution couldn't have been better... I don't see a problem...

You really have a problem in understanding what you are reading. In the quote above, I am saying that the current ROC is not in accordance with the constitution. You are saying the constitution is fine. Do I have to spell everything out for you? Even so I doubt if you can understand. Let me try:
1. According to the constitution the vice president must be a Turkish Cypriot and also have a veto power in most things.
2. The president of the constitutional court cannot be a GC or a TC. Now go and find out which GC is the current president.
Just simple two examples. Did you understand? I doubt it.

On another note, you were saying that EU can guarantee the human rights of TCs. I pointed out the situation of the Turks in Eastern Thrace. Your response was to draw attention to Greeks in eastern Thrace. So you just like to go in circles rather than have a serious debate. I am wasting my time on you and your likes.
ismet

[miltiades]

Hello my friends, I am back again to see how the business is in this fine and very humorous lunatic assylum. I see that nothing has changed.

Now who was the chap claiming that Cyprus was sold to the British by the Ottomans? My goodness, don't they ever teach you the truth in history lessons? Do they have to lie to you all the time? This is really a serious matter.

My dear, Cyprus was rented to the British by the Ottomans and later on when the Ottomans sided with Germany in WW1, Britain "annexed" the island I think in 1914. Now learn this "annex" word very well because after some time, Turkey might do just that to North Cyprus and show two fingers to Europe!!

The other point is the 20-80 ratio mentioned in London and Zurich agreements. I think the true ratio at the moment is 40-60 and the gap is closing down very fast. So if you want an agreement to the Cyprus problem, the Comrades (Chris and Talat) better act very quickly, not much time left. I hope I do not have to come here again in a few years time and tell you that I told you so. The writing is on the wall.
ismet

I think you ought to go back to your post on Cyprus44 and remind all ignoramus on there of this:
Treaty of Peace with Turkey Signed at Lausanne, July 24, 1923
From: The Treaties of Peace 1919-1923, Vol. II (New York: Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, 1924.)
ARTICLE 20.

"""Turkey hereby recognises the annexation of Cyprus proclaimed by the British Government on the sth November, 1914. ""

I have followed your nonsense on the Turkish ( mainland) arse licking forum and the support you enjoy from the cheapskates who are oblivious to realities one such reality is that the northern part of Cyprus is recognised internationaly not as the pseudo state of the "trnc" but as an integral part of Cyprus under Turkish occupation.
Do you have a RoC passport by any chance ??

On this forum , unlike the Turkish sponsored 44 , one can express an opinion with complete freedom , I tried it on the propaganda 44 and got kicked out , you know why , because the truth is not accepted in this make belief nonsense of a forum .
Dare you to inform your fellow forumers that Turkey in 1923 signed away any rights that she might have had on the island of Cyprus.
Will you also remind them that Turkey invaded Cyprus back in 1571 fought for a year before militarily occupying the island.
Let me tell you that the nonsense you post are seen as such by a great number of T/Cs .

[miltiades]

Elco , you may like to read this or even better provide this link on the TALF 44 .
http://www.gwpda.org/1918p/lausanne.html

[elko]

I have just found this as proof that Greek Cypriots are the cornerstone of civilization of Europe. Well done.

ismet

[Get Real!]

I have just found this as proof that Greek Cypriots are the cornerstone of civilization of Europe. Well done....

There’s nothing you can come up with that we haven’t already dealt with on this forum…

Tony Angastiniotis, made a very wise business decision when he chose to do a documentary about the 100 odd Turkish Cypriots that were killed in retaliation while the Turkish military machine was ethnically cleansing nearly 200,000 Greek Cypriots, killing around 6,000 of them (men, women, and children), transporting hundreds of people to Turkey as prisoners, committing an undetermined number of rapes and tortures, and looting all houses, businesses, and churches along the way…

One cannot even begin to imagine how much time, staff, equipment, and money, Tony Angastiniotis would’ve needed to document the atrocities committed by the Turkish military machine and the treasonous Turkish Cypriots who assisted them.

There’s just not enough lifetime for Tony to interview all the Greek Cypriot victims, visit their many burial sites, watch the refugees lingering in makeshift chipboard shacks for up to 15 years, and follow Greek Cypriots around for over three decades while they begged authorities to find out what happened to a further 1500 odd missing relatives.

I’ve got to hand it to you Tony… you’re a practical man!

Regards, GR.



Trivia: Tony Angastiniotis along with Fanos Droushiotis, are the two Greek Cypriots who for one reason or another happen to be employed by the “Eastern Mediterranean University” in the “TRNC”.

Tony was banned from all Cyprus media and

now appears to have moved on to profit from the Canadian Indian plight where he has even adopted the name “Night Eagle” and now thinks he is an Indian chief! Playing Cowboys & Indians was always one of Tony’s favorite pastimes…

http://fcms.emu.edu.tr/tony/

[Get Real!]

As it stands, the current ROC is not constitutional simply because it is not in accordance with the constitution of ROC.

The RoC constitution couldn't have been better... I don't see a problem...

You really have a problem in understanding what you are reading. In the quote above, I am saying that the current ROC is not in accordance with the constitution. You are saying the constitution is fine. Do I have to spell everything out for you? Even so I doubt if you can understand. Let me try:
1. According to the constitution the vice president must be a Turkish Cypriot and also have a veto power in most things.
2. The president of the constitutional court cannot be a GC or a TC. Now go and find out which GC is the current president.
Just simple two examples. Did you understand? I doubt it.

Spurred on by Turkey, the TC ministers foolishly abandoned their posts to take up arms (shipped by Turkey via the Kokkina point) against the RoC!

You should read up on partnership law to find out what happens when one of the partners abandons the partnership… the business goes on! In the case of the RoC, the partner that left also became a renegade! (Read traitor)

The RoC has since evolved and adapted around these unfortunate events …

[miltiades]

I have just found this as proof that Greek Cypriots are the cornerstone of civilization of Europe. Well done.

ismet

With due respect Elco , you are out of your depth . I would stick to CY44 where any rubbish directed against the G/Cs is applauded , having said this Cyprus forum welcomes all points of view unlike the CY44 that kicks anyone out who voices an opinion different to those opinions that are Turkish propaganda.


As you know I was banned for ...10 years , can you throw some light as to the reasons ? Also on this joke of a forum there is a constant reference to my ..aggressive manner , foul mouth language threatening behavior etc and every one goes along with it with the exception of one or two members. Can you point us to a post of mine that commanded a ban for 10 years !!!! Of course not , the Turkish military are in charge!!

[elko]

Get Real:

Tony was banned from all Cyprus media

So this is what happens to a man who dares to tell the truth. Did I hear anybody denying anything? Of course not, the only answer is to fabricate lies about the Turkish army.

In any war some wrongs are done on both sides. Iraq in our time is no exception. The Greek Cypriot Propaganda Machine is now world famous for its lies on a mass scale. Put that to one side. Can't you just acknowledge what Tony has laid infront of your eyes and simply say sorry instead of fabricating lies to justify it in an indirect way?

The way forward is to acknowledge all wrong doings, admit them and really feel sorry instead of storing up hatred mostly based on your own lies. We have a saying in Turkish: If you repeat a lie 40 times you begin to believe it yourself.

I am sorry but I see no hope with you lot and the only solution is official separation. Call it divorce. Not my choice but the result of your silly acts. The comrades Chris and Talat are trying in vain, I pity their efforts.
ismet

[miltiades]

Get Real:

Tony was banned from all Cyprus media

So this is what happens to a man who dares to tell the truth. Did I hear anybody denying anything? Of course not, the only answer is to fabricate lies about the Turkish army.

In any war some wrongs are done on both sides. Iraq in our time is no exception. The Greek Cypriot Propaganda Machine is now world famous for its lies on a mass scale. Put that to one side. Can't you just acknowledge what Tony has laid infront of your eyes and simply say sorry instead of fabricating lies to justify it in an indirect way?

The way forward is to acknowledge all wrong doings, admit them and really feel sorry instead of storing up hatred mostly based on your own lies. We have a saying in Turkish: If you repeat a lie 40 times you begin to believe it yourself.

I am sorry but I see no hope with you lot and the only solution is official separation. Call it divorce. Not my choice but the result of your silly acts. The comrades Chris and Talat are trying in vain, I pity their efforts.
ismet

The following comment is indeed applicable to you Ismet , you refuse to provide any evidence of " a genocide" taking place prior to the 1974 Turkish invasion. SIX years before the invasion how many T/Cs were the victims of "genocide" ? As you can see if you repeat a lie forty times you begin to believe it, so do tell us Ismet how many victims 6 YEARS BEFORE TURKISH INVASION. Dont forget to tell your mates on CY44 , WHEN YOU CAN THAT IS.
"""If you repeat a lie 40 times you begin to believe it yourself. ""

[DT.]

Get Real:

Tony was banned from all Cyprus media

So this is what happens to a man who dares to tell the truth. Did I hear anybody denying anything? Of course not, the only answer is to fabricate lies about the Turkish army.

In any war some wrongs are done on both sides. Iraq in our time is no exception. The Greek Cypriot Propaganda Machine is now world famous for its lies on a mass scale. Put that to one side. Can't you just acknowledge what Tony has laid infront of your eyes and simply say sorry instead of fabricating lies to justify it in an indirect way?

The way forward is to acknowledge all wrong doings, admit them and really feel sorry instead of storing up hatred mostly based on your own lies. We have a saying in Turkish: If you repeat a lie 40 times you begin to believe it yourself.

I am sorry but I see no hope with you lot and the only solution is official separation. Call it divorce. Not my choice but the result of your silly acts. The comrades Chris and Talat are trying in vain, I pity their efforts.
ismet

Since you're a bigger man where's your apology for what the Turks did to us?