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[Lit]

The breakaway regime in the occupied part of Cyprus cooperates for its promotion with a group which played an important role in the independence of Kosovo

Turkish Cypriot daily Afrika newspaper (03.08.09) refers to information published in Turkish daily Hurriyet newspaper according to which one international team, which consists of former diplomats who have played “a key role” for the independence of Kosovo, has been working as advisor of the Turkish Cypriot leader, Mehmet Ali Talat for three years now. The president of this group, which is named Independent Diplomat, is Carne Ross, well-known diplomat who opposed to the war in Iraq, disagreed with the former British Prime Minister Tony Blair and resigned. Mr Ross established the group in 2005 and started working with Mr Talat in 2006.

Former diplomats, lawyers and experts in foreign relations participate in the group, which instead of making propaganda for the “TRNC”, are working for the ties of the breakaway regime with international organizations and institutions such as the UN and the EU. The members of the group approach international personalities who do not want to meet with officials of the breakaway regime because it is not recognized and “undertake preliminary initiatives in the name of Talat”. The clients of the “Independent Diplomat” are “non-recognized states” like the breakaway regime in the occupied areas of Cyprus, reports the paper noting that the group is bound to a non-profit foundation which operates with donations. The biggest success of the group was the independence of Kosovo.

Among its recent clients are also Western Sahara, which is under the control of Morocco and Somaliland, and which has declared its independence in the northern part of Somalia.
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[Nikitas]

Cannot resist the impulse to ask if this diplomat has been rewarded with some stolen GC house. Others have been, for instance one Irish politician and one Euromp who has a house in Kazafani.

[shahmaran]

The breakaway regime in the occupied part of Cyprus cooperates for its promotion with a group which played an important role in the independence of Kosovo

Turkish Cypriot daily Afrika newspaper (03.08.09) refers to information published in Turkish daily Hurriyet newspaper according to which one international team, which consists of former diplomats who have played “a key role” for the independence of Kosovo, has been working as advisor of the Turkish Cypriot leader, Mehmet Ali Talat for three years now. The president of this group, which is named Independent Diplomat, is Carne Ross, well-known diplomat who opposed to the war in Iraq, disagreed with the former British Prime Minister Tony Blair and resigned. Mr Ross established the group in 2005 and started working with Mr Talat in 2006.

Former diplomats, lawyers and experts in foreign relations participate in the group, which instead of making propaganda for the “TRNC”, are working for the ties of the breakaway regime with international organizations and institutions such as the UN and the EU. The members of the group approach international personalities who do not want to meet with officials of the breakaway regime because it is not recognized and “undertake preliminary initiatives in the name of Talat”. The clients of the “Independent Diplomat” are “non-recognized states” like the breakaway regime in the occupied areas of Cyprus, reports the paper noting that the group is bound to a non-profit foundation which operates with donations. The biggest success of the group was the independence of Kosovo.

Among its recent clients are also Western Sahara, which is under the control of Morocco and Somaliland, and which has declared its independence in the northern part of Somalia.
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Well they do admit that they work in "donations" Nikitas, but how is that relevant to the real cause?

Even IF it is a GC house, I am sure we will send you the check eventually

[Kikapu]

Kosovo was successful in gaining their independence, because NATO bombed the hell out of the Serbs for 72 days straight and not because of this so called Independent Diplomat, Carne Ross.! Despite all that bombing and despite with the American backing, Kosovo has not been able to become a UN member or is it recognized by the Greater EU Body, and after Talat listening to this guy for 3 years, the best he could advice Talat is to try and go around the EU principles for a settlement for Cyprus. Good luck Mr. Talat and Mr. Ross in trying to repeat the “Kosovo story” in Cyprus.!

[shahmaran]

No need to grasp for straws Kikapu, the place HAS been recognized and so far that would do us just fine!

Would it not?

[Get Real!]

Kosovo was successful in gaining their independence, because NATO bombed the hell out of the Serbs for 72 days straight and not because of this so called Independent Diplomat, Carne Ross.! Despite all that bombing and despite with the American backing, Kosovo has not been able to become a UN member or is it recognized by the Greater EU Body, and after Talat listening to this guy for 3 years, the best he could advice Talat is to try and go around the EU principles for a settlement for Cyprus. Good luck Mr. Talat and Mr. Ross in trying to repeat the “Kosovo story” in Cyprus.!

Also, Kosovo has never been "awarded" with one of these...

http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm

[Kikapu]

No need to grasp for straws Kikapu, the place HAS been recognized and so far that would do us just fine!

Would it not?

Sure Shah, but don't mix oranges with lemons as far as Kosovo and the "trnc" goes, and lets not forget that the north already has/had/maybe/almost recognition..................by Turkey.!

That's because, if you listen to MrH, he claims that Turkey never recognised the north, so I guess that means the north has ZERO recognition from anyone from it's inception for the last 35 years.!

I'm just as as anyone else with MrH's announcement. Just when you think you know everything, something like this comes along out of nowhere and makes us all look stupid.!

[humanist]

If I were Christofias I would be asking Talat one question .... are you a team player toward unification on BBF principles as agreed in previous documents or are you heading for independence and recognition because I need to know so that I can then take appropriate action?

Perhaps Papadopoulos was right in not meeting the puppet because he is two faced and cannot be trusted.

[Nikitas]

Now I am confused! Those wishing for a similar development as what has occurred in Kossovo seem to forget a few salient facts:

In Kossovo all individuals enoy respect of their property rights, there has been no "nationalisation" of Serb property, or other form of expropriation.

There is a neutral police and army to ensure that international law and human rights are respected. The Kossovo government does not have a standing army.

As far as i can remember, the TCs have repeatedly refused any neutral peace keeping force, and have rejected the idea of full property restitution.

So are we now at a crossroads where the TC side is willing to have recognition along with full property restitution for the GCs and a neutral force to oversee the settlement?

[shahmaran]

If I were Christofias I would be asking Talat one question .... are you a team player toward unification on BBF principles as agreed in previous documents or are you heading for independence and recognition because I need to know so that I can then take appropriate action?

Perhaps Papadopoulos was right in not meeting the puppet because he is two faced and cannot be trusted.

Ex-EOKA Papadashite is the one to talk