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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:28 pm

Nikitas wrote:"you will loose half of the island "

will? What has been happening since 1974 other than loss. We got used to it. Enough stick, let us see some loukoum for a change. What are you promising?


Departure of the Turkish Army...your turn.
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Postby DT. » Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:57 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Nikitas wrote:"you will loose half of the island "

will? What has been happening since 1974 other than loss. We got used to it. Enough stick, let us see some loukoum for a change. What are you promising?


Departure of the Turkish Army...your turn.


Thats not a concession.Not even the TUrks envisaged post solution Cyprus with 40,000 turkish troops stationed here. So thtas not a bargaining chip its a normal turn of events.
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Postby The Cypriot » Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:57 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Nikitas wrote:"you will loose half of the island "

will? What has been happening since 1974 other than loss. We got used to it. Enough stick, let us see some loukoum for a change. What are you promising?


Departure of the Turkish Army...your turn.


Liar. Your turn.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:09 pm

DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Nikitas wrote:"you will loose half of the island "

will? What has been happening since 1974 other than loss. We got used to it. Enough stick, let us see some loukoum for a change. What are you promising?


Departure of the Turkish Army...your turn.


Thats not a concession.Not even the TUrks envisaged post solution Cyprus with 40,000 turkish troops stationed here. So thtas not a bargaining chip its a normal turn of events.


So do you want them to go or not? if you then its a concession as we do not want them to go.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:10 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Nikitas wrote:"you will loose half of the island "

will? What has been happening since 1974 other than loss. We got used to it. Enough stick, let us see some loukoum for a change. What are you promising?


Departure of the Turkish Army...your turn.


Liar. Your turn.


So you yourself are a clear sign of why we will never agree a solution. Im trying to give you what you want but you call me a liar, if we agree a solution thats meets our concerns I personally will lobby for their departure.
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Postby bill cobbett » Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:16 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Nikitas wrote:"you will loose half of the island "

will? What has been happening since 1974 other than loss. We got used to it. Enough stick, let us see some loukoum for a change. What are you promising?


Departure of the Turkish Army...your turn.


Thats not a concession.Not even the TUrks envisaged post solution Cyprus with 40,000 turkish troops stationed here. So thtas not a bargaining chip its a normal turn of events.


So do you want them to go or not? if you then its a concession as we do not want them to go.


The current talks are being held within the UN parameters.

UN Resolutions have insisted on the withdrawal of the Turkish Army of Occupation, so by turning up at the talks you must be supporting the UN Parameters and the withdrawal of the Turkish Army so it isn't a concession, think of accepting the withdrawal of this army as an entry fee to the talks
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:26 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Nikitas wrote:"you will loose half of the island "

will? What has been happening since 1974 other than loss. We got used to it. Enough stick, let us see some loukoum for a change. What are you promising?


Departure of the Turkish Army...your turn.


Thats not a concession.Not even the TUrks envisaged post solution Cyprus with 40,000 turkish troops stationed here. So thtas not a bargaining chip its a normal turn of events.


So do you want them to go or not? if you then its a concession as we do not want them to go.


The current talks are being held within the UN parameters.

UN Resolutions have insisted on the withdrawal of the Turkish Army of Occupation, so by turning up at the talks you must be supporting the UN Parameters and the withdrawal of the Turkish Army so it isn't a concession, think of accepting the withdrawal of this army as an entry fee to the talks


Its a concession because we do not want them to go we are giving up our security and exposing ourselves to 20.000 GC military and 126.000 armed reservists, does the UN tell you to get rid of your security? That means they are being biased and should expect both sides to demilitarize then it would not be a concession.
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Postby Simon » Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:30 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Nikitas wrote:"you will loose half of the island "

will? What has been happening since 1974 other than loss. We got used to it. Enough stick, let us see some loukoum for a change. What are you promising?


Departure of the Turkish Army...your turn.


Thats not a concession.Not even the TUrks envisaged post solution Cyprus with 40,000 turkish troops stationed here. So thtas not a bargaining chip its a normal turn of events.


So do you want them to go or not? if you then its a concession as we do not want them to go.


The current talks are being held within the UN parameters.

UN Resolutions have insisted on the withdrawal of the Turkish Army of Occupation, so by turning up at the talks you must be supporting the UN Parameters and the withdrawal of the Turkish Army so it isn't a concession, think of accepting the withdrawal of this army as an entry fee to the talks


Its a concession because we do not want them to go we are giving up our security and exposing ourselves to 20.000 GC military and 126.000 armed reservists, does the UN tell you to get rid of your security? That means they are being biased and should expect both sides to demilitarize then it would not be a concession.


You complain about the GC military and armed reservists, but it is the GCs who argue for full demiliterisation of Cyprus. It is you who wants to keep the island militarised.
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Postby bill cobbett » Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:49 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Nikitas wrote:"you will loose half of the island "

will? What has been happening since 1974 other than loss. We got used to it. Enough stick, let us see some loukoum for a change. What are you promising?


Departure of the Turkish Army...your turn.


Thats not a concession.Not even the TUrks envisaged post solution Cyprus with 40,000 turkish troops stationed here. So thtas not a bargaining chip its a normal turn of events.


So do you want them to go or not? if you then its a concession as we do not want them to go.


The current talks are being held within the UN parameters.

UN Resolutions have insisted on the withdrawal of the Turkish Army of Occupation, so by turning up at the talks you must be supporting the UN Parameters and the withdrawal of the Turkish Army so it isn't a concession, think of accepting the withdrawal of this army as an entry fee to the talks


Its a concession because we do not want them to go we are giving up our security and exposing ourselves to 20.000 GC military and 126.000 armed reservists, does the UN tell you to get rid of your security? That means they are being biased and should expect both sides to demilitarize then it would not be a concession.


Hang on a minute me old china. Are you being deliberately thick?

You have turned up to talks being held within the UN Parameters on CY. One of those parameters is the withdrawal of the Turkish Army. You may not like it, but your leaders have already agreed to it by turning up for the talks. If you are unhappy with this, take it up with your leadership. Why are you trying to renegotiate this. Cos if you are, you are not to be trusted (again).

Another parameter is the establishment of a BBF, a major, major concession from the grissy side, shall we start seeing this as open to negotiation as well then??? If you want to insist on agreeing with UN parameters for a BBF then you must also accept the total withdrawal of the Turkish Army. End off.
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Postby Christine Toskos » Sat Sep 12, 2009 9:04 pm

The Turkish army and settlers must leave the island. Turkey is jealous that Cyprus and Greece are in the EU. They know if they remain on our island they will never be invited to enter EU. Their economy sinks at best. They don't understand that Greece and Cyprus are European countries. But, Turkey is middle eastern. Ottoman Turks came from Turkmenistan. The last time I looked on a map Turkmenistan is located in Central Asia. They invaded Asia Minor in 1453. They tried to Turkified Asia Minor. They were some what successful. Tourist who visit Asia Minor visit the Greek sites my ancestors built. All tourists say how Constantinople, Symrna, Armenia, Ponita, Nicesia, etc were destroyed since the Turks took them over. What can we do? Now, people are saying the Turks are destroying Northern Cyprus. But as soon as they leave we will make it beautiful again. Turkey's only hope is to get out of Cyprus and make peace with the Kurds. Maybe then they will be allowed to join the EU. I doubt it because Turks are not Europeans.
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