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[paliometoxo]

and what where the gcs guilty of when the truks came to cyprus killing over 20,000?

[NikosGB23]

The 40,000 troops came exactly because of your discriminative and violent actions.

People were locked into open prisons for 11 years fearing for their lives while you were overrun by even more racist and violent Greeks, you seem to strategically leave that out

What were they guilty of, other than speaking Turkish better than they spoke Greek?

a typical turk response. so one small, unsuccessful, attempt to overthrow the GREEK cypriot leader makarios gives turkey the reason to INVADE the country? and estabilishing its own illegal government was a way to protect the people then, was it?

so, the attack is over. its been over for 40 YEARS, how come those 40,000 troops arent out of the country yet? you have seem to strategically leave that out, my friend

[shahmaran]

and what where the gcs guilty of when the truks came to cyprus killing over 20,000?

You should tie that to the factors who caused the Turkish army to come in in the first place.

Every time a village was raided by racist and violent Greek mobs Turkey had warned you, it is really stupid to claim that you did not see it coming.

Thanks to your racism many innocent people died on both sides.

[shahmaran]

The 40,000 troops came exactly because of your discriminative and violent actions.

People were locked into open prisons for 11 years fearing for their lives while you were overrun by even more racist and violent Greeks, you seem to strategically leave that out

What were they guilty of, other than speaking Turkish better than they spoke Greek?

a typical turk response. so one small, unsuccessful, attempt to overthrow the GREEK cypriot leader makarios gives turkey the reason to INVADE the country? and estabilishing its own illegal government was a way to protect the people then, was it?

so, the attack is over. its been over for 40 YEARS, how come those 40,000 troops arent out of the country yet? you have seem to strategically leave that out, my friend

Attempt?

The guy fled the country while his supporters were being butchered by their own people, remember your lefties, how is that a "small unsuccessful attempt" ??

You have hijacked our republic and our nationality, what do you suggest we do?

I assure you everything you have said so far are definitely "typical Greek claims" that has been regurgitated SOOO many times on this forum, you are not saying anything new Nikos...

[Murataga]

When the UK annexed Cyprus, a consul was sent here from Turkey. This was because at that time there was no such thing as a Cyprus problem in Turkey. The Turks on the island were supposed to return to Turkey. Thus a consul was sent to simplify these procedures. It shows how different the vision was in those days.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=24938

If the Turks on our island returned to Turkey there wouldn't be any Cyprus Problem anymore. At that time the Turks decided that they could not rule Cyprus anymore and it seems that they were about to take back their settlers and stop creating problems to our island. But it seems later they changed their mind and they decided not only to leave those Settlers but to invade again and bring even more settlers and create even more problems to Cyprus. Turkish Expansionism is the problem of Cyprus. The Turkish Settlers (new and old) is the way Turkey is trying to expand against us and take our lands. If it wasn't for the Turkish expansionism there wouldn't be a Cyprus problem today because they wouldn't bring any Settlers on our island or at least they would take them back when their rule was over. And don't forget that they give to their settlers more rights than to native Cypriots. If they accepted democracy then a small Turkish minority wouldn't be a problem for anybody. But in that case Cyprus would be ruled by Cypriots. And Turks don't want that. They want to have the control of Cyprus. This is the big picture of the Cyprus problem.

You are implying majority rule. That applies (at best) to nations. RoC does not embody a nation, neither politically, ethnically, culturally, historically, nor constitutionally. It never has and unless you manage to annihilate every single one of us (the TCs), it never will. It was a partnership in 1959. You attacked us and destroyed that partnership, now it is going to be a federation (if found a solution) at best. Deal with it.

[miltiades]

When the UK annexed Cyprus, a consul was sent here from Turkey. This was because at that time there was no such thing as a Cyprus problem in Turkey. The Turks on the island were supposed to return to Turkey. Thus a consul was sent to simplify these procedures. It shows how different the vision was in those days.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=24938

If the Turks on our island returned to Turkey there wouldn't be any Cyprus Problem anymore. At that time the Turks decided that they could not rule Cyprus anymore and it seems that they were about to take back their settlers and stop creating problems to our island. But it seems later they changed their mind and they decided not only to leave those Settlers but to invade again and bring even more settlers and create even more problems to Cyprus. Turkish Expansionism is the problem of Cyprus. The Turkish Settlers (new and old) is the way Turkey is trying to expand against us and take our lands. If it wasn't for the Turkish expansionism there wouldn't be a Cyprus problem today because they wouldn't bring any Settlers on our island or at least they would take them back when their rule was over. And don't forget that they give to their settlers more rights than to native Cypriots. If they accepted democracy then a small Turkish minority wouldn't be a problem for anybody. But in that case Cyprus would be ruled by Cypriots. And Turks don't want that. They want to have the control of Cyprus. This is the big picture of the Cyprus problem.

You are implying majority rule. That applies (at best) to nations. RoC does not embody a nation, neither politically, ethnically, culturally, historically, nor constitutionally. It never has and unless you manage to annihilate every single one of us (the TCs), it never will. It was a partnership in 1959. You attacked us and destroyed that partnership, now it is going to be a federation (if found a solution) at best. Deal with it.

Therefore one must assume that the UN , the EU , and the entire international political forum is wrong and that only Turkeys interpretation is the correct one , ie that the RoC is illegal !!
The 60 thousand T/Cs holding the RoC passports and IDs are in a possession of an "illegal" document , according to your argument .
Give it up mate your argument is based on that promoted by Turkey , it is not only absurd is plainly stupid.
The T/cs , just as the G/Cs were the victims of the extremists , the departure of the T/Cs from the government was at the instigation and direct orders of Turkey.

[miltiades]

and what where the gcs guilty of when the truks came to cyprus killing over 20,000?

You should tie that to the factors who caused the Turkish army to come in in the first place.

Every time a village was raided by racist and violent Greek mobs Turkey had warned you, it is really stupid to claim that you did not see it coming.

Thanks to your racism many innocent people died on both sides.

Perhaps you may be more informed than others and can tell us how many villages were " raided" 6 years prior to the Turkish invasion or indeed how many victims during this period . I seem to recall that the Famagusta old town was being guarded by armed T/Cs whilst the T/Cs ventured out on a daily basis to attend to their tasks . G/Cs were not allowed to enter the old town.
The Grey Wolves were feared by the T/Cs , indeed many left Cyprus fearing for their lives having disobeyed commands by the GWs.
Back to the point raised now , how many villages " raided" ?

[NikosGB23]

The 40,000 troops came exactly because of your discriminative and violent actions.

People were locked into open prisons for 11 years fearing for their lives while you were overrun by even more racist and violent Greeks, you seem to strategically leave that out

What were they guilty of, other than speaking Turkish better than they spoke Greek?

a typical turk response. so one small, unsuccessful, attempt to overthrow the GREEK cypriot leader makarios gives turkey the reason to INVADE the country? and estabilishing its own illegal government was a way to protect the people then, was it?

so, the attack is over. its been over for 40 YEARS, how come those 40,000 troops arent out of the country yet? you have seem to strategically leave that out, my friend

Attempt?

The guy fled the country while his supporters were being butchered by their own people, remember your lefties, how is that a "small unsuccessful attempt" ??

You have hijacked our republic and our nationality, what do you suggest we do?

I assure you everything you have said so far are definitely "typical Greek claims" that has been regurgitated SOOO many times on this forum, you are not saying anything new Nikos...

oh and i havent heard a typical turk complaint "well the greeks attacked first"? expect that response when you state such dumb facts.

[shahmaran]

The 40,000 troops came exactly because of your discriminative and violent actions.

People were locked into open prisons for 11 years fearing for their lives while you were overrun by even more racist and violent Greeks, you seem to strategically leave that out

What were they guilty of, other than speaking Turkish better than they spoke Greek?

a typical turk response. so one small, unsuccessful, attempt to overthrow the GREEK cypriot leader makarios gives turkey the reason to INVADE the country? and estabilishing its own illegal government was a way to protect the people then, was it?

so, the attack is over. its been over for 40 YEARS, how come those 40,000 troops arent out of the country yet? you have seem to strategically leave that out, my friend

Attempt?

The guy fled the country while his supporters were being butchered by their own people, remember your lefties, how is that a "small unsuccessful attempt" ??

You have hijacked our republic and our nationality, what do you suggest we do?

I assure you everything you have said so far are definitely "typical Greek claims" that has been regurgitated SOOO many times on this forum, you are not saying anything new Nikos...

oh and i havent heard a typical turk complaint "well the greeks attacked first"? expect that response when you state such dumb facts.

What so dumb about it?

Many living witnesses can confirm these facts.

I have never said you attacked first, it is hard to know, but seems like you definitely did set the scene for the partition.

[shahmaran]

and what where the gcs guilty of when the truks came to cyprus killing over 20,000?

You should tie that to the factors who caused the Turkish army to come in in the first place.

Every time a village was raided by racist and violent Greek mobs Turkey had warned you, it is really stupid to claim that you did not see it coming.

Thanks to your racism many innocent people died on both sides.

Perhaps you may be more informed than others and can tell us how many villages were " raided" 6 years prior to the Turkish invasion or indeed how many victims during this period . I seem to recall that the Famagusta old town was being guarded by armed T/Cs whilst the T/Cs ventured out on a daily basis to attend to their tasks . G/Cs were not allowed to enter the old town.
The Grey Wolves were feared by the T/Cs , indeed many left Cyprus fearing for their lives having disobeyed commands by the GWs.
Back to the point raised now , how many villages " raided" ?

That is a dubious statement Miltiades.

Maybe no one was killed in those 6 years, this does not mean people were not regularly terrorized and left to rot in open prisons for a decade.

My own family members still remember your check-points.

My uncle was trapped in Nicosia and unable to return if he had not got some help from the UN, and even then an armed scuffle had to be overcome.

And what was waiting for them if the TA had not intervened?

Makarios or Sampson?

Which one is worse?