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[Gabira]

Varosa Built On Evkaf Land

Ninety-one year old Mehmet Ali Cincioglu from Gazikoy (former Afania village), as a living witness, has told the Observer Cyprus, “The British and the Greek Cypriots used and even changed title deeds of Evkaf properties for many years. Varosa town was built on Evkaf land.”


Cincioglu criticised the European Court of Justice (ECJ) decision on the Orams case and claimed, “The verdict is wrong. Turkish owned properties and Evkaf lands sinisterly and covertly were used for many years. And many Greek Cypriots who utilised them for long periods were issued title deeds by the British colonial administrators and later on by the Greek Cypriot Lands and Surveys Office. They should sit in the guilty chair not the Turks and other foreigners who have built on former Greek Cypriot land in North Cyprus. The British rulers encouraged Greek Cypriots and Armenians to buy Turkish properties. Unfortunately many of us sold. There were hard times, no money, life was very difficult and many sold their immovables in order to survive, especially during the Second World War.”


He described how farmers had to hand to the British their harvested grains, sheep and goats. He said many Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots had to join the British armed forces and had to go to war against the Germans. Many unemployed young men served in the British armed forces, some lost their lives, others were taken prisoners of war by the enemy, said the old man.
“After the war, I served as the secretary of the village co-operative. There were 3 Greek Cypriot members and two Turkish Cypriots. We gave credits and helped the needy village farmers and animal breeders. I bought my first property from a Greek Cypriot woman, when I won 175 pounds for a single shilling I had in my pocket, in the horse races. I also bought goats, sheep and two cattle, which I used for farming. We had no tractors, harvesters etc. All was done by bare hands and sickle. In 1955 my farm was set on fire by Greek Cypriot EOKA men and my two water wells were blown up. Two of my best friends were murdered. I was assured by Greek Cypriot villagers that they would not harm us or damage our properties. I believed them. I was a fool to trust them. Hell broke loose and our village was divided into the Turkish quarter-enclave and the Greek quarter. Many of our next of kin left the village and moved to safer Turkish areas.”

What would happen if they had to live, once again, together with the Greek Cypriots, or under their rule; Cincioglu said, “God forbid. We do not trust them. We cannot live in safety without the guarantee of Turkey. Our lives, properties, honour and families were saved by the Turkish armed forces in 1974. Had Turkey not intervened, God knows what they and the Greek junta would have done to us. Everybody knows how they murdered and buried in mass graves many innocent Turkish Cypriots and burnt their properties.”


Why did Turkish Cypriots, who lost their homes and loved ones, not resort to the European Courts, Cincioglu said, “We did not know the existence of any court that would punish Greek Cypriot criminals. They stole and used our homes, lands, orchards all over Cyprus and deprived us from earning our daily life after both 1955 and 1963. They should pay the penalty. I hope Mr. Talat or our leaders take them to courts.”


Did they enjoy life now as there are no Greek Cypriot inhabitants in the village, Cincioglu said, “We have problems, drought, water shortage, bad harvest, but we are at least safe and we know that they cannot harm us, kidnap us and kill us.”


Was there unemployment at the village? He said no. Every one was busy with their daily work.
“At least what we produce we can take to the town and sell. When Policarpos Yorgacis was Interior Minister, he had set road blocks and we could not go to Nicosia or Famagusta without being harassed, searched and our goods destroyed. Some of our people were kidnapped. I was the only one who had a car. Every time I had to take a patient to Nicosia I was intercepted. I was hurt and bruised. We do not want those days again. Let them live in South Cyprus. We are alright in the North. If they want to live in peace with us, this way is better. Our leaders, our politicians must be very careful not to be deceived, because the Greek Cypriots are very crafty, cunning and cruel. I do not understand politics. What I understand at this age, after having those bitter experiences, is that I want to live the rest of my days without fear. I would very much appreciate if somebody paid me back my lost years and paid me compensation for my farm, wells and members of my family.”


What about the new generation, would they agree with the views of Cincioglu?


“Young people do not know what we lived through. There are only two at my age, alive in the village. The young generation must learn the past and must follow their leaders. Otherwise, they may be lured by the Greek Cypriots, who pretend to want peace and a Cyprus solution. I believe that the Greek Cypriots, still, want the whole of Cyprus. And they want Turks to leave and go. This will never happen I want to tell them. We will all die but there will always be Turks on this island because it was their homeland in the first place. What they stole from us, we got back. Let the world understand and let them not treat Turks as looters. We were the ones looted and deprived of our land and properties by EOKA campaign, Orthodox Church and Archbishop Makarios. Turkish properties left in South Cyprus are more valuable than theirs in the North. Let them exchange and settle the property issue once and for all.”

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Observer Cyprus

[shahmaran]

How funny is it that anyone who survived the dark era tells the same story ALL over the island...

[YFred]

How funny is it that anyone who survived the dark era tells the same story ALL over the island...

The knowledge handed down through generations cannot be disproved by a few crooked bits of paper with RoC stamped on them.

[Get Real!]

Varosa Built On Evkaf Land

All “Evkaf land” is STOLEN Cypriot land by the Ottoman invaders starting from 1570 and how the Ottomans “justified” their theft is besides the point, but thankfully the British administration had set the record straight when in 1944 they passed the "Immovable Property Law” which returned the great majority of this stolen land back to the Greek Cypriots.

“Efkav” was Ottoman-CONFISCATED Cypriot land throughout the island, supposedly “set aside for Allah” but in reality it was being commercially exploited to the max by the corrupt and oppressive Ottoman community, at the expense of Cypriots.

Ever since the 1944 "Immovable Property Law” came into force, most of this stolen land was returned to the rightful indigenous Cypriots over successive counter-confiscations conducted by the British administration of Cyprus so what the hell do you think is left of “Efkav land” today? Not much…

It’s the surrounding back yards of Mosques, Muslim cemeteries, and other special religious places like that of Tekke, etc. Big deal!

[shahmaran]

How funny is it that anyone who survived the dark era tells the same story ALL over the island...

The knowledge handed down through generations cannot be disproved by a few crooked bits of paper with RoC stamped on them.

It is a perfectly well organized "cover up" mission that is being executed.

[Oracle]

Varosa Built On Evkaf Land

Ninety-one year old Mehmet Ali Cincioglu from Gazikoy (former Afania village), as a living witness, has told the Observer Cyprus, “The British and the Greek Cypriots used and even changed title deeds of Evkaf properties for many years. Varosa town was built on Evkaf land.”

So, some senile old Turkish man is called in as a "witness"? ... and reported by the trashy propaganda rag of Turkish thieves illegally occupying Cyprus.

Perhaps all TC land should be regarded as stolen from the RoC ... that would at least be nearer the truth!

[shahmaran]

All “Evkaf land” is STOLEN Cypriot land by the Ottoman invaders starting from 1570 and how the Ottomans “justified” their theft is besides the point, but thankfully the British administration had set the record straight when in 1944 they passed the "Immovable Property Law” which returned the great majority of this stolen land back to the Greek Cypriots.

“Efkav” was Ottoman-CONFISCATED Cypriot land throughout the island, supposedly “set aside for Allah” but in reality it was being commercially exploited to the max by the corrupt and oppressive Ottoman community, at the expense of Cypriots.

Ever since the 1944 "Immovable Property Law” came into force, most of this stolen land was returned to the rightful indigenous Cypriots over successive counter-confiscations conducted by the British administration of Cyprus so what the hell do you think is left of “Efkav land” today? Not much…

It’s the surrounding back yards of Mosques, Muslim cemeteries, and other special religious places like that of Tekke, etc. Big deal!

This is one of the funniest posts of today for sure!

One Empire calls the other Empire a thief and tells them to give the land back while holding on to land half way around the fucking world

Even better, they claim that the Ottoman's were "commercially exploiting the island", I am still living in the shit the CMC left behind and that is just a drop in the ocean of British scumbags exploitation of this island!

And to top it all some poor GC supports all these claims till the end, bitches about his lost heritage when caring not for the heritage of his fellow Cypriots.

Yeah take whatever you can get, very noble of you

What was it that you said about "wank" GR?

[shahmaran]

Varosa Built On Evkaf Land

Ninety-one year old Mehmet Ali Cincioglu from Gazikoy (former Afania village), as a living witness, has told the Observer Cyprus, “The British and the Greek Cypriots used and even changed title deeds of Evkaf properties for many years. Varosa town was built on Evkaf land.”

So, some senile old Turkish man is called in as a "witness"? ... and reported by the trashy propaganda rag of Turkish thieves illegally occupying Cyprus.

Perhaps all TC land should be regarded as stolen from the RoC ... that would at least be nearer the truth!

That is not possible as there was no RoC when the Ottoman's came, you did NOT own jack shit other than the pants on your ass Oracle.

Don't diss old people and their accounts of the dark era, as you are one of them Oracle, would you like to be treated like that as well?

Are we to say that your experience of that time is just and old woman's delusion?

Or even better, maybe everyone who has lived that time and is alive today should not be considered as witness?

[Get Real!]

All “Evkaf land” is STOLEN Cypriot land by the Ottoman invaders starting from 1570 and how the Ottomans “justified” their theft is besides the point, but thankfully the British administration had set the record straight when in 1944 they passed the "Immovable Property Law” which returned the great majority of this stolen land back to the Greek Cypriots.

“Efkav” was Ottoman-CONFISCATED Cypriot land throughout the island, supposedly “set aside for Allah” but in reality it was being commercially exploited to the max by the corrupt and oppressive Ottoman community, at the expense of Cypriots.

Ever since the 1944 "Immovable Property Law” came into force, most of this stolen land was returned to the rightful indigenous Cypriots over successive counter-confiscations conducted by the British administration of Cyprus so what the hell do you think is left of “Efkav land” today? Not much…

It’s the surrounding back yards of Mosques, Muslim cemeteries, and other special religious places like that of Tekke, etc. Big deal!

This is one of the funniest posts of today for sure!

One Empire calls the other Empire a thief and tells them to give the land back while holding on to land half way around the fucking world

Even better, they claim that the Ottoman's were "commercially exploiting the island", I am still living in the shit the CMC left behind and that is just a drop in the ocean of British scumbags exploitation of this island!

And to top it all some poor GC supports all these claims till the end, bitches about his lost heritage when caring not for the heritage of his fellow Cypriots.

Yeah take whatever you can get, very noble of you

What was it that you said about "wank" GR?

The Ottomans confiscated Cypriot land for THEIR benefit (how convenient! ) whereas the Brits gave it back to the natives!

Which of the two is more honorable?

[Sotos]

Everything in Cyprus is build on Cypriot land. No foreign and long gone empire can have any claims on our land. Lets not forget that "Turkish Cypriots" are nothing more than Turkish Settlers from the first Turkish invasion. After the end of Ottoman rule not only they didn't own anything on our island but they were also supposed to leave from here and return to their homeland.

When the UK annexed Cyprus, a consul was sent here from Turkey. This was because at that time there was no such thing as a Cyprus problem in Turkey. The Turks on the island were supposed to return to Turkey. Thus a consul was sent to simplify these procedures. It shows how different the vision was in those days.