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Postby YFred » Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:29 pm

This article in today’s Cyprus mail makes interesting reading for anybody who had any doubts about who started what troubles when.
What kind of president takes power and immediately begins the destruction of that state?
One name dominates our bloodied and tearful history
By Loucas Charalambous

THESE anniversary programmes on television and the long articles about the history of the Cyprus problem can sometimes be productive. True, you hear and read a lot of stupidities and exaggerations but there are exceptions to this general rule.

Some of the protagonists of the events, either through stupidity or naivety, reveal things that are of great importance to anyone interested in exploring the reasons for our trials and tribulations. Hidden in the myths, lies, exaggerations and boastings, a careful person who is interested in ascertaining the true facts will always find testimonies that shed light on what really happened and who the culprits were.

Apart from the responsibilities of individuals and organisations for specific events, the person who should take the largest share of the blame for the tragic course of our history, stained with blood and tears, was the late Archbishop Makarios – not only because he was president, but also for his actions. He created the setting for the frightening events that unfolded.

This is supported by the shocking testimonies that have seen the light in the last few years. After all, the most important question is who set the tragic events in motion? Who, in 1963, opened the wound which gave the opportunity or the pretext to every charlatan and idiot, inside and outside Cyprus, to pose as a doctor? The remedies prescribed made the wound gangrenous and eventually killed the patient.

It could be said that history is now taking revenge on Makarios in the most merciless way, as the most damning evidence has been provided by people from his own circle who were actively involved in the events.

The latest case was Nicos Koshis, one of the most active and zealous of Makarios paramilitary chiefs. In a CyBC show last week, Koshis clearly stated that the infamous Akritas organisation, of which he was ‘chief of staff’, had been set up on the instructions of Makarios, who was directing its operations at special sessions held at the presidential palace. Makarios would even decide who would be given guns, said Koshis.

His testimony backs what Christodoulos Christodoulou – the deputy chief of staff of Akritas – said in an interview published by Simerini nine months ago. Christdoulou said that Makarios was the “invisible leader” of the organisation.

According to the testimonies of people who were involved in the events and which have not been challenged by anyone, we can conclude the following: a few months after the establishment of the Cyprus Republic, its president sets up an illegal, armed organisation with the objective of destroying the new state. This is a unique case in world history – a head of state plotting to dissolve his own state. (Testimonies of Koshis and Christodoulou.)

This organisation instigated violent conflict, resorting to acts of provocation in order to turn the population against the Turkish Cypriots. In September 1963, it sets fire to the Ayios Kassianos school and the following December it places a bomb at the statue of the EOKA hero Marcos Drakos in Nicosia. (Confession by the arsonist and testimony by Chrysafis Chrysafi and Andreas Azinas.)

Under these conditions and with a man like Makarios in charge of its fate, did Cyprus have any chance – even the tiniest – of avoiding the disastrous course it followed in the first 10 years of its existence as a state?
Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2009
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Postby DT. » Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:42 pm

Tell it to the judge bozo. The way courts are ruling against you these days it'll soon be deserted in the occupied areas from anyone with 2 pennies to spend and no amount of your fairytales can help you.
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Postby shahmaran » Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:43 pm

Nothing we didn't know but of course some amongst us choose to ignore this completely and rightfully, if they want to pursue their fabricated history the Turks must be blamed for everything, or it just won't stick.

It is also a further proof of what might the TC's had expected to come if Turkey had not intervened and Makarios had got his power back.

All this bollocks about 7 years of non-violence prior to the invasion or the fact that the heroic Makarios was fighting off the Greeks single handed, is absolutely irrelevant.

TC's on this island were doomed either way and there was not a single soul who was going to do anything about it.
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Postby DT. » Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:44 pm

shahmaran wrote:Nothing we didn't know but of course some amongst us choose to ignore this completely and rightfully, if they want to pursue their fabricated history the Turks must be blamed for everything, or it just won't stick.

It is also a further proof of what might the TC's had expected to come if Turkey had not intervened and Makarios had got his power back.

All this bollocks about 7 years of non-violence prior to the invasion or the fact that the heroic Makarios was fighting off the Greeks single handed, is absolutely irrelevant.

TC's on this island were doomed either way and there was not a single soul who was going to do anything about it.


Think back to the mob that attacked the GC policemen in 1963 first. Where they GC or TC?
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Postby YFred » Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:45 pm

DT. wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Nothing we didn't know but of course some amongst us choose to ignore this completely and rightfully, if they want to pursue their fabricated history the Turks must be blamed for everything, or it just won't stick.

It is also a further proof of what might the TC's had expected to come if Turkey had not intervened and Makarios had got his power back.

All this bollocks about 7 years of non-violence prior to the invasion or the fact that the heroic Makarios was fighting off the Greeks single handed, is absolutely irrelevant.

TC's on this island were doomed either way and there was not a single soul who was going to do anything about it.


Think back to the mob that attacked the GC policemen in 1963 first. Where they GC or TC?

The plan was set few months after 1960. Does it really matter.
At least answer the main point . The only President to do such a thing. How about that?
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Postby shahmaran » Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:49 pm

DT. wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Nothing we didn't know but of course some amongst us choose to ignore this completely and rightfully, if they want to pursue their fabricated history the Turks must be blamed for everything, or it just won't stick.

It is also a further proof of what might the TC's had expected to come if Turkey had not intervened and Makarios had got his power back.

All this bollocks about 7 years of non-violence prior to the invasion or the fact that the heroic Makarios was fighting off the Greeks single handed, is absolutely irrelevant.

TC's on this island were doomed either way and there was not a single soul who was going to do anything about it.


Think back to the mob that attacked the GC policemen in 1963 first. Where they GC or TC?


It was Makarios who filled the room up with gas DT, it was only a matter of a spark to blow the whole thing off.

It is absolutely certain that Makarios was another racist piece of shit who wanted to throw us out of our lands.

This scum bag was paying people to leave the country, finding them jobs abroad.

He was trying to get rid of us one way or another.

Yet you are surprised that it resulted in violence?

So how can you say we started it?

Let me guess, we invaded you 500 years ago, of course! :roll:
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:53 pm

shahmaran wrote:It was Makarios who filled the room up with gas DT, it was only a matter of a spark to blow the whole thing off.

Gas chambers eh? So that's how genocide VII was carried out! :evil:

This scum bag was paying people to leave the country, finding them jobs abroad.

:shock: Hey! I thought you said you all died from the genocides??? :?
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Postby shahmaran » Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:59 pm

Get Real! wrote:
shahmaran wrote:It was Makarios who filled the room up with gas DT, it was only a matter of a spark to blow the whole thing off.

Gas chambers eh? So that's how genocide VII was carried out! :evil:

This scum bag was paying people to leave the country, finding them jobs abroad.

:shock: Hey! I thought you said you all died from the genocides??? :?


It is a metaphor GR, I know you have difficulty understanding unless I use short bullet points with BOLD and LARGE fonts, but just work with me for a moment...

Genocide was just a speed up version of Makarios's aim.

Shame it did not go quite as planned.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:02 pm

shahmaran wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
shahmaran wrote:It was Makarios who filled the room up with gas DT, it was only a matter of a spark to blow the whole thing off.

Gas chambers eh? So that's how genocide VII was carried out! :evil:

This scum bag was paying people to leave the country, finding them jobs abroad.

:shock: Hey! I thought you said you all died from the genocides??? :?


It is a metaphor GR, I know you have difficulty understanding unless I use short bullet points with BOLD and LARGE fonts, but just work with me for a moment...

Genocide was just a speed up version of Makarios's aim.

Shame it did not go quite as planned.

So in total, how many genocides were there… more than the Police Academy movies? :?
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Postby DT. » Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:14 pm

Get Real! wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
shahmaran wrote:It was Makarios who filled the room up with gas DT, it was only a matter of a spark to blow the whole thing off.

Gas chambers eh? So that's how genocide VII was carried out! :evil:

This scum bag was paying people to leave the country, finding them jobs abroad.

:shock: Hey! I thought you said you all died from the genocides??? :?


It is a metaphor GR, I know you have difficulty understanding unless I use short bullet points with BOLD and LARGE fonts, but just work with me for a moment...

Genocide was just a speed up version of Makarios's aim.

Shame it did not go quite as planned.

So in total, how many genocides were there… more than the Police Academy movies? :?


So when was the first one? Thats meant to be the really good genocide.
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