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by **Lit** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:50 am

The police seized the passport and identity card of a Turkish Cypriot who was carrying the flag of the Republic of Cyprus

Turkish Cypriot daily Afrika newspaper (29.07.09) reports that the lieutenant from Turkey, who recently stopped the Turkish Cypriot named Koray Basdogrultmaci in the Larnaca road in occupied Famagusta, thought that Mr Basdogrultmaci was Greek Cypriot and asked him if he spoke English. Mr Basdogrultmaci was carrying a flag of the Republic of Cyprus.

When Mr Basdogrultmaci replied to the Turkish lieutenant that he is Cypriot, the latter told him to throw away the flag of the infidels and take a Turkish flag. He even tried to take the flag from Mr Basdogrultmaci by force. The paper writes that the police considered that only Basdogrultmaci was responsible for the incident and arrested only him. The police passed charges against Basdogrultmaci, seized his passport and identity card and set him free on bail. They also searched his house and confiscated badges of the United Cyprus Party (BKP) and AKEL.

by **Tim Drayton** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:13 am

Lit wrote:The police seized the passport and identity card of a Turkish Cypriot who was carrying the flag of the Republic of Cyprus

Turkish Cypriot daily Afrika newspaper (29.07.09) reports that the lieutenant from Turkey, who recently stopped the Turkish Cypriot named Koray Basdogrultmaci in the Larnaca road in occupied Famagusta, thought that Mr Basdogrultmaci was Greek Cypriot and asked him if he spoke English. Mr Basdogrultmaci was carrying a flag of the Republic of Cyprus.

When Mr Basdogrultmaci replied to the Turkish lieutenant that he is Cypriot, the latter told him to throw away the flag of the infidels and take a Turkish flag. He even tried to take the flag from Mr Basdogrultmaci by force. The paper writes that the police considered that only Basdogrultmaci was responsible for the incident and arrested only him. The police passed charges against Basdogrultmaci, seized his passport and identity card and set him free on bail. They also searched his house and confiscated badges of the United Cyprus Party (BKP) and AKEL.

I cannot find a report in Afrika giving this account of events. Can you substantiate your source, please?

by **Lit** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:34 am

Sure thing, Tim. You can find the article here:

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/pio/pio.nsf/A ... enDocument

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by **Tim Drayton** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:55 am

Lit wrote:Sure thing, Tim. You can find the article here:

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/pio/pio.nsf/A ... enDocument

Browse down to 10 in the bulletin list. Have a great day.

Strange. I read Afrika, as well as several other TC newspapers, online every day and I cannot find a report there with this account of the event. According to a report in Kıbrıs - Deniz has earlier provided a link to this report - the individual carrying the Cyprus flag was drunk and disorderly and both verbally abused and physically assaulted a passer by. Yeni Düzen has given an identical account of the event. I would be grateful if anybody could give a link to this Afrika report which portrays things so differently.

by **Tim Drayton** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:32 pm

I see today's Yeni Düzen reports that the person at the centre of the incident has contacted them to give his side of the story.

http://www.yeniduzen.com/template.asp?a ... 3&zoneid=3

Koray Başdoğrultmacı told the newspaper that on the day of the event he was walking on the pavement with a Republic of Cyprus flag hanging from his neck and he was wearing a T-shirt with Greek writing on it. The slogans on the T-shirt read “I will not forget the Fascist Greek Coup of 15 July 1974” and “I will not forget the Turkish invasion of 20 July 1974”. Başdoğrultmacı said, “Turkey was justified in coming here in 1974. But it then occupied this place. After it came, it did not do what it was supposed to and divided the island in the name of imperialism. It forced people to migrate. It established a pirate structure.”

Koray Başdoğrultmacı, stating that the flag he was carrying is not the Greek Cypriot flag but the Republic of Cyprus flag, described how a car passed him as he was walking along the pavement and the car stopped after it had gone for about 50-60 metres and reversed. Two men got out and asked if he spoke English. When Başdoğrultmacı told them he was Cypriot, the two men began choking him in an effort to grab the flag, telling him to put down his infidel flag and fly a Turkish flag.

by **Nikitas** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:06 pm

He does not sound drunk or metnally disturbed as he was portrayed in earlier reports.

by **denizaksulu** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:21 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
Lit wrote:The police seized the passport and identity card of a Turkish Cypriot who was carrying the flag of the Republic of Cyprus

Turkish Cypriot daily Afrika newspaper (29.07.09) reports that the lieutenant from Turkey, who recently stopped the Turkish Cypriot named Koray Basdogrultmaci in the Larnaca road in occupied Famagusta, thought that Mr Basdogrultmaci was Greek Cypriot and asked him if he spoke English. Mr Basdogrultmaci was carrying a flag of the Republic of Cyprus.

When Mr Basdogrultmaci replied to the Turkish lieutenant that he is Cypriot, the latter told him to throw away the flag of the infidels and take a Turkish flag. He even tried to take the flag from Mr Basdogrultmaci by force. The paper writes that the police considered that only Basdogrultmaci was responsible for the incident and arrested only him. The police passed charges against Basdogrultmaci, seized his passport and identity card and set him free on bail. They also searched his house and confiscated badges of the United Cyprus Party (BKP) and AKEL.

I cannot find a report in Afrika giving this account of events. Can you substantiate your source, please?

I have just spoken to a friend in Famagusta, they said there were no Turkish soldiers involved in the arrest. They said the papers are lying. He also said no one has a hunting licence for their shotguns (ie. if they do not go hunting).

by **Tim Drayton** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:22 pm

Nikitas wrote:He does not sound drunk or metnally disturbed as he was portrayed in earlier reports.

There are certainly two very different accounts of this same event coming out. Interestingly, Kibris's story (the one which portrays this man as being the aggressor) is based on the report provided by the investigating police officer to the prosecutor.

by **denizaksulu** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:25 pm

What a storm. Hailstones too.

Sorry. Thats the weather in SE UK.

Poor Boris is out with Ann and the grandchildren.

by **shahmaran** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:02 pm

Well if this is true then there goes Lit's sources credibility flying out the window like a scared bıldırcın :lol:

That's what happens if you post every piece of junk you find on the Internet :lol:

I have searched for the exact quotes from that article on Google and I assure you if it is out there Google WILL definitely return something, however you only get 4 result which hold that article and all 4 are the following Greek sources.

http://news.pseka.net
www.hri.org
www.moi.gov.cy
http://zeus.hri.org

Funny enough it is meant to be a Turkish article but with no Turkish sources.

Makes you wonder where these articles come from and you can see that all these Greek sources clearly share the same main source for dubious news.

Reminds me of that extremely disturbing movie "1984" :lol:

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