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Postby The Cypriot » Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:34 pm

YFred wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:So is it only GCs or all EU citizens you're looking to exclude?


The TCs greates fear is being swamped by GCs and then losing control of their state.


But you don't fear EU citizens swamping you? Brits? French? Germans? Greeks? They'll be just as ruthless, just as cunning, just as domineering, and certainly just as litigious if your 'state' tries to restrict them from going about their lawful business...

YFred wrote:It's clearly set out to prevent that. Even if there was no such rule, it can easily be implemented by intimidation like in the past.


Intimidate who? If there is an atmosphere of intimidation you will do untold damage to tourism, to the economy generally. Will you be looking to intimidate potential overseas investors, traders, retailers, buyers, developers? What is all this?

YFred wrote:I just wish to move to the next stage. At least we are one step closer to the ultimate aim. Trying to get it right first time has not worked and I suspect will not work in the future either.


That's why we must get the agreement right. No nonsense. No discriminatory, impractical, unlawful, divisive nonsense. Once bitten twice shy. You should know that by now.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:39 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
YFred wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:So is it only GCs or all EU citizens you're looking to exclude?


The TCs greates fear is being swamped by GCs and then losing control of their state.


But you don't fear EU citizens swamping you? Brits? French? Germans? Greeks? They'll be just as ruthless, just as cunning, just as domineering, and certainly just as litigious if your 'state' tries to restrict them from going about their lawful business...

YFred wrote:It's clearly set out to prevent that. Even if there was no such rule, it can easily be implemented by intimidation like in the past.


Intimidate who? If there is an atmosphere of intimidation you will do untold damage to tourism, to the economy generally. Will you be looking to intimidate potential overseas investors, traders, retailers, buyers, developers? What is all this?

YFred wrote:I just wish to move to the next stage. At least we are one step closer to the ultimate aim. Trying to get it right first time has not worked and I suspect will not work in the future either.


That's why we must get the agreement right. No nonsense. No discriminatory, impractical, unlawful, divisive nonsense. Once bitten twice shy. You should know that by now.


Now do you understand why we will never agree a solution?
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Postby The Cypriot » Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:45 pm

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That's why we must get the agreement right. No nonsense. No discriminatory, impractical, unlawful, divisive nonsense. Once bitten twice shy. You should know that by now.


Now do you understand why we will never agree a solution?


Because your leaders want an agreement based on discriminatory, impractical, unlawful, divisive nonsense?
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:02 pm

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That's why we must get the agreement right. No nonsense. No discriminatory, impractical, unlawful, divisive nonsense. Once bitten twice shy. You should know that by now.


Now do you understand why we will never agree a solution?


Because your leaders want an agreement based on discriminatory, impractical, unlawful, divisive nonsense?


Wrong, we need safeguards and guarantees we cannot leave anything to chance.
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Postby The Cypriot » Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:08 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
That's why we must get the agreement right. No nonsense. No discriminatory, impractical, unlawful, divisive nonsense. Once bitten twice shy. You should know that by now.


Now do you understand why we will never agree a solution?


Because your leaders want an agreement based on discriminatory, impractical, unlawful, divisive nonsense?


Wrong, we need safeguards and guarantees we cannot leave anything to chance.


Fine. Propose ones that are not discriminatory, impractical, unlawful and divisive and let's discuss.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:15 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
That's why we must get the agreement right. No nonsense. No discriminatory, impractical, unlawful, divisive nonsense. Once bitten twice shy. You should know that by now.


Now do you understand why we will never agree a solution?


Because your leaders want an agreement based on discriminatory, impractical, unlawful, divisive nonsense?


Wrong, we need safeguards and guarantees we cannot leave anything to chance.



Fine. Propose ones that are not discriminatory, impractical, unlawful and divisive and let's discuss.


Turkeys guarantee until in the EU.
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Postby Oracle » Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:25 pm

Viewpoint is afraid of being swamped by all members of humanity ... except the Turks who settle all around him. These Turks, who have caused the greatest demise of TCs, apparently are not to be feared.

Chasms of intelligence ... :roll:
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Postby The Cypriot » Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:37 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
That's why we must get the agreement right. No nonsense. No discriminatory, impractical, unlawful, divisive nonsense. Once bitten twice shy. You should know that by now.


Now do you understand why we will never agree a solution?


Because your leaders want an agreement based on discriminatory, impractical, unlawful, divisive nonsense?


Wrong, we need safeguards and guarantees we cannot leave anything to chance.



Fine. Propose ones that are not discriminatory, impractical, unlawful and divisive and let's discuss.


Turkeys guarantee until in the EU.


And who is going to guarantee the rest of the EU citizens on Cyprus against Turkey's discriminatory, impractical, unlawful and divisive nonsense?
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Postby Kikapu » Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:19 pm

YFred wrote:
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YFred wrote:When the east Europeans joined EU they did exactly the same thing and removed the barriers quite quickly afterwards. If they hadn't perhaps the west European population would not have accepted the easterners so readily.


YFreak, stop comparing what ever derogations the EU may have allowed to other countries before joining the EU, which is not much by the way, to what you are asking for to have a racist derogations with the blessing of the EU on majority of the citizens of Cyprus. Show me any country in the EU that has such racist policies towards their own people regardless of race, sex, and religion. Cyprus is already in the EU and has already agreed to live by the EU rules when they were accepted in 2004, so stop talking rubbish as usual. In any case, the EU has made their case very clear, that there will not be any permanent derogation on anything and only a limited derogations on very few items, as long as the RoC agrees to it. Time to grow up for god sake and stop looking for handouts and loopholes for dividing the people of Cyprus and start being responsible citizen to help run a country and not a god damn circus. Time for you to get off your constant merry-go-around Racist and Undemocratic demands and act like a Cypriot for Cyprus and a European for the benefit of all, to which, the ones who stand to benefit the most at this stage with a Fair and Just settlement are the TCs, more than anyone else.!

The above would make sense and worth replying to except the YFreak bit, therefore Assikdir len.


That's because you don't even understand what is written, you damn pot head.!

So who is the pot head then?
Why were the Bulgarinas and the Romanians made to accept limitations as to how many may be able to migrate to the west after joining, for 10 years, was that not racist? So you see we don't set the rules, they are already there and used by others. Besides, if you need to see racist rules, don't even have to go that far, your beloved RoC has plenty of recent examples as well as old, old boy. :wink: :wink:


Just as I thought, that you do not understand what is written, or that you deliberately avoid the question asked and go on about irrelevant stuff instead. Now, read my post again and see if your irrelevant answer answers what was asked from you.!
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:23 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
That's why we must get the agreement right. No nonsense. No discriminatory, impractical, unlawful, divisive nonsense. Once bitten twice shy. You should know that by now.


Now do you understand why we will never agree a solution?


Because your leaders want an agreement based on discriminatory, impractical, unlawful, divisive nonsense?


Wrong, we need safeguards and guarantees we cannot leave anything to chance.



Fine. Propose ones that are not discriminatory, impractical, unlawful and divisive and let's discuss.


Turkeys guarantee until in the EU.


And who is going to guarantee the rest of the EU citizens on Cyprus against Turkey's discriminatory, impractical, unlawful and divisive nonsense?


The EU you trust them dont you? plus Turkey will be a guarantor not part of a united Cyprus.
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