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[Lit]

Reading the "Greek" and Turkish Cypriot press, one thing keeps being mentioned and that is Turkey's guarantor power rights. The GCs are adamantly opposed to this and the TCs are adamantly for it. Talat has even went as far as to say f@ck EU guarantees, we want Turkey guarantor rights. Talat went on to say that once it is proven that the GCs arent Neanderthals and guarantees arent needed after say 50 years when the GCs have evolved then maybe, just maybe, there would be no need for guarantees but we would still need to debate the matter with Ankara. So i ask my fellow Cypriots here....how do we proceed forward? Obviously the GCs or gayreeks must stop whining and understand that there two sides to this issue. So are we to go ahead and accept the T \ TC demands for Turkish guarantor rights? Again, i would like to remind my fellow GCs that there two sides, EOKA, Grivas, Sampson, etc, etc. Is it one more thing for the GCs to bend over for? Why not, after all, they do call us gayreeks--oh, and do keep your comments to a minimum. Long winded posts may infuriate the TCs in this forum and then how are we going to achieve peace? Think dammit! To my TC friends, do let us know what you think about the issue of guarantor rights. Please remind us again why it is needed and remember to make your comments long winded. Remind us of EOKA and how living under the British were better. Remind us of Sampson. Just remind us

[Nikitas]

The TCs are obviously not looking at the larger picture, but they never did.

Armies, especially the professional elements in armies, officers etc, do not sit idle. Even if there is no action they find something to do, and in the case of Cyprus it will be a repeat of 1960 when the two contingents, ELDYK and TURDYK will be busy drawing up contingency plans. Idiotic plans like the Aphrodite plan etc.

If the TCs think that they need guarantees from Turkey then the GCs must have Greek guarantees. They talk about a token force of 650 Turks and 950 Greeks, like we had in 1960. Forget the token part. How about 650 Turks and 5000 Greeks to offset the geographic proximity of Turkey and its ability to instantly reinforce its forces. And commensurate difference in armaments and see how they like that scenario.

TCs seem to simply refuse to mature and assume the responsibility of being a free and independent community in a free nation. They are always looking for their father figure.

[Lit]

The TCs are obviously not looking at the larger picture, but they never did.

Armies, especially the professional elements in armies, officers etc, do not sit idle. Even if there is no action they find something to do, and in the case of Cyprus it will be a repeat of 1960 when the two contingents, ELDYK and TURDYK will be busy drawing up contingency plans. Idiotic plans like the Aphrodite plan etc.

If the TCs think that they need guarantees from Turkey then the GCs must have Greek guarantees. They talk about a token force of 650 Turks and 950 Greeks, like we had in 1960. Forget the token part. How about 650 Turks and 5000 Greeks to offset the geographic proximity of Turkey and its ability to instantly reinforce its forces. And commensurate difference in armaments and see how they like that scenario.

TCs seem to simply refuse to mature and assume the responsibility of being a free and independent community in a free nation. They are always looking for their father figure.

Father figure? Was that a dig at Ataturk? What are you trying to do? WRECK THE PEACE PROCESS!!!

May we now have the long winded rebuttal from the TCs? Thank you kindly.

[Lit]

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[The Cypriot]

Here you go... from VPs library of stock responses no. 301....

"We would endure 10 million times worse under the Turkish army than be a minority and second class citizens in a GC run state dominated by GCs without effective guarantees. We don't trust you. Remember what happened in 1963? You rejected the Annan plan in 2004 and the EU promised an end to the unfair, inhumane embargoes on the TC people which you have blocked which shows that you still want to harm the TCs."

[Viewpoint]

Here you go... from VPs library of stock responses no. 301....

"We would endure 10 million times worse under the Turkish army than be a minority and second class citizens in a GC run state dominated by GCs without effective guarantees. We don't trust you. Remember what happened in 1963? You rejected the Annan plan in 2004 and the EU promised an end to the unfair, inhumane embargoes on the TC people which you have blocked which shows that you still want to harm the TCs."

Well done "The Cypriot" now you are getting the message, therefore you can now try to address the issues in good faith seeing that you understand them.

[paliometoxo]

the only way foward is if turkey stops dreaming and insisting on parttion and crap and re unites cyprus

[GeorgeV97qaue]

The TCs are obviously not looking at the larger picture, but they never did.

Armies, especially the professional elements in armies, officers etc, do not sit idle. Even if there is no action they find something to do, and in the case of Cyprus it will be a repeat of 1960 when the two contingents, ELDYK and TURDYK will be busy drawing up contingency plans. Idiotic plans like the Aphrodite plan etc.

If the TCs think that they need guarantees from Turkey then the GCs must have Greek guarantees. They talk about a token force of 650 Turks and 950 Greeks, like we had in 1960. Forget the token part. How about 650 Turks and 5000 Greeks to offset the geographic proximity of Turkey and its ability to instantly reinforce its forces. And commensurate difference in armaments and see how they like that scenario.

TCs seem to simply refuse to mature and assume the responsibility of being a free and independent community in a free nation. They are always looking for their father figure.

Father figure? Was that a dig at Ataturk? What are you trying to do? WRECK THE PEACE PROCESS!!!

May we now have the long winded rebuttal from the TCs? Thank you kindly.

You do talk rubbish.

You started the troubles when you sided with the Bristish. Also who planted the bomb in Nicosia back in the 60's it was your lot so give me you cant trust us. Turkey always wanted the Island split in two.

[shahmaran]

While you are at it Lit, please remind us why the GC's so desperately object the TC's will to have a guarantor.

What is the reason behind it?

What harm could that possibly bring them if they are not really planning on anything while arming themselves with the finest and the latest Russian technology?

I mean who in the world would attack an EU country right?

[Dr J]

I cant be bothered to answer this cunt's silly questions any more.