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[Jerry]

Bilt could do with a few lessons in logic and history. Why should Cypriots suffer for something that the Junta did against the will of the island's inhabitants? If he hadn't noticed the Junta no longer exists.

Jerry, in this day and age, it is incredible to suggest that 74 activities were purely a Junta affair. GC NG was also on their side. The impression I got from the reports at the time was that the only people loyal to the President was the Police force. The NG was on the side of the coupists. Can someone please tell us which section of the GC NG came out and said they were against the coup before the Turkish intervention?

Do you honestly believe that the NG would have thrown Makarios out were it not for the Junta and the CIA? The NG was controlled by Greek officers. Makarios would not have survived the coup nor would he have had the huge welcome he received on his return without the support of the majority of GCs. I do not recall mass celebrations in Cyprus at the downfall of Makarios, perhaps someone who lived through those times could enlighten us.

[YFred]

As can be seen from the article below EU is losing patience with the GCs and the Cyprus Problem. The EU is beging to see a more balanced view. Next six months will be very interesting to say least.

So Bildt is now "the EC" ? A controversial turkophile swedish foreign minister does not constitute the EC.

And, of course, you conveniently ignore the main thrust of the article, which is that Bildt was criticised for trying to delete the turkish invasion and continued illegal occupation.


This was clearly a desperate attempt to improve Turkey's chances of avoiding her commitments with impunity. Dream on, guys.

I am implying that he is saying what everyone else is thinking.

[Kikapu]

Majority of the TCs survive on what they produce old boy.

Really? So what's the best season to cultivate ancient artifacts and GC real estate arsehole?

You can't taint all the TCs with that one old boy. Arsehole is what you see every morning when you are shaving, assuming that you are not a spano. Most TCs are law abiding and hard working. We have same percentage of criminals that you do in the south, whatever the criminal activity is. What is shameful is the practices of the RoC in dealing with the TCs in an absolute racist manner.

I'll give you an example. My brother tried to sell wheat to the RoC few years back. RoC turned it down on the grounds that they couldn't prove if the wheat was grown on TC land. You call that free trade. That is discrimination of the worst kind. They could have said, show us the deeds of your land and in seconds calculate the probability of this land producing the tonnage of wheat. But no, no trade. Its' called suffer you bastards and my reply to the RoC is get stuffed. I will trade with whoever I chose and it will never be with the RoC again.

Just to point out to those who are not familiar with the practices of the TRNC. A TC cannot hold his Kotchans and accept GC land. The kotchans are exchanged with the eshdeger system. I am certain that RoC is aware of that.

That's not true. Some TCs only gave copies of their original deeds from owning land in the south to the "trnc" in order to gain GC land in the north, by simply stating that they did not have the original deeds any longer. I know this from certain family members who have done this, and I don't think they were the only ones. Besides this little loophole, it could also be possible to have bought GC agricultural land very cheaply and then grown the wheat on it, then try and sell it across the "Green Line". How else would he have land in the north to grow wheat if your brother is from the southern Cyprus and he still has his original deeds for land in the south, but yet he is growing wheat on the land in the north.? Did your brother buy original TC land in the north to grow his wheat, or was it grown on the GC land that he bough very cheaply.?

[paliometoxo]

its not so easy when turkey doesent allow a solution and insists on two states

[Gabira]

Bilt could do with a few lessons in logic and history.

You had better give him a G/GC written history book

Why should Cypriots suffer for something that the Junta did against the will of the island's inhabitants?

I totally agree. TC's are still suffering for the the Junta's actions whilst GC's are being rewarded for the Junta's actions which you claim were "against the will of the island's inhabitants."

If he hadn't noticed the Junta no longer exists.

On the contrary, the Junta still exists as the revamped GC version of the "ROC"

[The Cypriot]

On the contrary, the Junta still exists as the revamped GC version of the "ROC"

Gabira, the president of the revamped "ROC" – I have it on good authority – is a communist.

Someone the junta would have wanted dead.

So, explain yourself, please.

[Gabira]

On the contrary, the Junta still exists as the revamped GC version of the "ROC"

Gabira, the president of the revamped "ROC" – I have it on good authority – is a communist.

Someone the junta would have wanted dead.

So, explain yourself, please.

Are you suggesting that the Junta agenda only ended when Mr Hristo came into the "ROC" presidency role ?

The GC's political aspirations with deep Junta roots will not change any time soon. They just found a prettier puppet in a 'so called' communist to use and pull the same strings. I give credit to GC politics & diverse strategy in the Cyprus debate.

[Piratis]

Republic of Cyprus is now ruled democratically by its own native people, and not by any foreigners. How is it any worst than any other democratic country in the world, and when was it any better in this respect? When Cyprus was under Ottoman rule maybe?

The Junta was a dictatorship of army generals. Fortunately in Greece it ended many decades ago. In fascist Turkey however the Army Generals continue to run the country until today.

[Viewpoint]

Republic of Cyprus is now ruled democratically by its own native people, and not by any foreigners. How is it any worst than any other democratic country in the world, and when was it any better in this respect? When Cyprus was under Ottoman rule maybe?

The Junta was a dictatorship of army generals. Fortunately in Greece it ended many decades ago. In fascist Turkey however the Army Generals continue to run the country until today.

Piratis do you support your leader when he is negotiating BBF with political equality?

[Jerry]

Bilt could do with a few lessons in logic and history.

You had better give him a G/GC written history book

Why should Cypriots suffer for something that the Junta did against the will of the island's inhabitants?

I totally agree. TC's are still suffering for the the Junta's actions whilst GC's are being rewarded for the Junta's actions which you claim were "against the will of the island's inhabitants."

If he hadn't noticed the Junta no longer exists.

On the contrary, the Junta still exists as the revamped GC version of the "ROC"

Gabira, if you really believe what you have posted is true then there is absolutely no point in entering a discussion with you.