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[YFred]

It would be very interesting to hear from our more nationalistic GC friends and the oddball convert, as to how they feel about the MoD's decision to ban this chant now. Is it right or is it wrong? Why now?
GC soldiers being forced to chant the above in the free areas has a certain comic ring to it, although it does need a bit more work to really sound funny.

‘Dead Turk’ chat banned by army
By Jacqueline Agathocleous

THE DEFENCE MINISTRY has launched disciplinary action against training officers at the KEN Larnaca and KEN Paphos’ boot camps for forcing new conscripts into chanting ‘unacceptable slogans’.

Defence Minister Costas Papacostas yesterday said a preliminary investigation had ‘unfortunately confirmed’ claims that new conscripts were being forced to chant ‘unacceptable slogans’ at the two training camps.

“It is a sad phenomenon; unacceptable and worthy of punishment,” said the minister. “There is a standing order by the National Guard Chief, which specifies the slogans that can be used during training, not just in KEN but also any other training camps and units. Therefore, anyone who chants any other type of slogan outside the standing order is committing a disciplinary offence.”

Though he didn’t clarify the exact contents of the slogans, Papacostas said expressions such as “A good Turk is a dead Turk” could only create more problems for the NG.

“We want fighters who can deal at any given moment with a hostile attack; we don’t want blood-thirsty people, or people who breed hate and passion,” he added.

Papacostas explained that as soon as the NG Chief realised what had happened, he ordered the immediate withdrawal of the KEN training officers, as well as their disciplinary punishment, which provides a prison term.

“The situation is under control, there is no call for concern,” said the minister. “The fact that these phenomena exist truly saddens us, because these phenomena of indiscipline cannot be allowed in an organised army.”

He called on new conscripts to not shout slogans that haven’t been ordered by the NG Chief, adding that in the event that they are ordered to do so, the soldiers have the right to disobey and report the incident to their superiors.

Asked whether the KEN officers would receive a court martial, Papacostas explained that the act was not a criminal offence, but a disciplinary one. “We can’t send such incidents to the Army Court,” he pointed out.

Asked to comment on the matter following yesterday’s National Council meeting, Government Spokesman Stefanos Stefanou condemned the incident, saying the Defence Minister had set a specific frame for the slogans that can be heard in the NG. He added that the necessary procedures had been launched that deal with such incidents.
Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2009

Or could this be the beginning of freeing the history lessons in the free areas?

[The Cypriot]

21st century sanity is slowly descending on Cyprus.... What will Turkey do, I wonder?

[YFred]

21st century sanity is slowly descending on Cyprus.... What will Turkey do, I wonder?

Is that the old Turkish tradition of "Yavaş Yavaş".

[Get Real!]

It would be very interesting to hear from our more nationalistic GC friends and the oddball convert, as to how they feel about the MoD's decision to ban this chant now.

You should be more worried about the chanting of Turkish and TC slogans and the annual celebrations of the murder of 5,000 Cypriots with parades and aerial shows.

So how many medals were handed out this year to your “brave” who raped women, and butchered men, women, and children?

[YFred]

It would be very interesting to hear from our more nationalistic GC friends and the oddball convert, as to how they feel about the MoD's decision to ban this chant now.

You should be more worried about the chanting of Turkish and TC slogans and the annual celebrations of the murder of 5,000 Cypriots with parades and aerial shows.

So how many medals were handed out this year to your “brave” who raped women, and butchered men, women, and children?

Probably as many as were handed to your braves in the south for the same reason. Or was it just blessings that your Archbishop was giving to your murders that took part in killing civilians in 74.

[The Cypriot]

21st century sanity is slowly descending on Cyprus.... What will Turkey do, I wonder?

Is that the old Turkish tradition of "Yavaş Yavaş".

We've got till the end of the year to go Yavaş Yavaş... seems like the free part has realised the pace needs to be quickened. What will Turkey do?

[Get Real!]

It would be very interesting to hear from our more nationalistic GC friends and the oddball convert, as to how they feel about the MoD's decision to ban this chant now.

You should be more worried about the chanting of Turkish and TC slogans and the annual celebrations of the murder of 5,000 Cypriots with parades and aerial shows.

So how many medals were handed out this year to your “brave” who raped women, and butchered men, women, and children?

Probably as many as were handed to your braves in the south for the same reason. Or was it just blessings that your Archbishop was giving to your murders that took part in killing civilians in 74.

Don't manufacture bollocks with me you uneducated little shit and answer the question arsehole...

So how many medals were handed out this year to your “brave” who raped women, and butchered men, women, and children?

[YFred]

21st century sanity is slowly descending on Cyprus.... What will Turkey do, I wonder?

Is that the old Turkish tradition of "Yavaş Yavaş".

We've got till the end of the year to go Yavaş Yavaş... seems like the free part has realised the pace needs to be quickened. What will Turkey do?

It is very difficult to say what she intends to do, it all depends on what messages come accross from the EU which we never get to hear. All we hear is what they want us to hear, never the real messages sent. If the message is forget EU, then I suspect two fingers and a full 90 degrees north towards mother Russia just to rub their noses in it. I said this some time ago and got accused by oddball that I was nuts.

The real question is if Turkey does such a thing and the Army take over to protect western interests. Will that be seen as a good thing by the EU?

[shahmaran]

It would be very interesting to hear from our more nationalistic GC friends and the oddball convert, as to how they feel about the MoD's decision to ban this chant now.

You should be more worried about the chanting of Turkish and TC slogans and the annual celebrations of the murder of 5,000 Cypriots with parades and aerial shows.

So how many medals were handed out this year to your “brave” who raped women, and butchered men, women, and children?

I do not remember any racist chants in the army.

It was more about, "everything for the country" or some other crappy songs.

[miltiades]

Every one surely knows that the overwhelming majority of G/Cs find "chants" such as the one in question as totally unacceptable and very offensive. As a G/C you will recall I stood up to one such " chant" signature recently.