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[halil]

How many "Gibrizlica" speakers do you know?

Are you disputing whether I know any?

If my answer was only one and he or she decided to call Gibrizlija a language and standardise it would that not be enough?

Another answer - the answer, you'll find, to the universe's most intractable problem - is 42.

Would that be enough?

How about 1,000, or 10,000 or 50,000? What would be enough for you to stop dismissing those who choose to view Gibrizlija as a language for talking nonsense?

Bloody hell .... if there was a Gibrizlica language talk in Cyprus .... I am 52 years old and still i can not communicate with Greek Cypriots , Maronite Cypriots and with Armenian Cypriots .........

This Cypriot Man has very funy ideas ......... If he was in Cyprus i would think that he was effected from booldy sun !!!!!!!!!!!!!

On the forums Cypriots u can find too many members for Gibrizlica or Cypriot ,Cypriot-ism .... they are all gives u mis calculation .....

[denizaksulu]

Who decided? You? What if others decided otherwise? Aren't they allowed?

The Cypriot Academy’s approach to writing Gibrizlija is illustrated below in the Gibrizlija numbers one to ten:

1 – bir
2 – iki
3 – uech
4 – doert
5 – besh
6 – alti
7 – yedi
8 – sekiz
9 – dokuz
10 – on

It's interesting that the "Gibrizlija" numbers form 1-10 are exactly the same as the Turkish one's.


and you call it a different language!

I am sympathetic to your argument that the language spoken by Turkish Cypriots is a dialect of the Turkish language as spoken in Turkey, rather than a separate language. On the other hand, according to the Lonely Planet guide to Central Asia, the numbers 1-10 in Kyrgyz are as follow:

1 - bir
2- eki
3 - üch
4 - tört
5 - besh
6 - alty
7 - jety
8 - segiz
9 - toguz
10 - on

which are also very similar to the numbers in Turkish. Not many people, I think, would dipsute that Kyrgyz is a separate language, so your example may not be the best one.

It is still Turkish though. The grammar is the same, perhaps the major differences are in the word endings of verbs (after 1928). Kirgiz seems the same as the language of Kutatgu Bilig, which is assumed to be the first documented Turkish Literature (unless Tim is going to correct me again, (apart from the Orkhon stellae).

[The Cypriot]

was a Gibrizlica language talk in Cyprus .... I am 52 years old and still i can not communicate with Greek Cypriots , Maronite Cypriots and with Armenian Cypriots .........

Why would you - speaking Gibrizlija? Unless they spoke it too? Maronites spoke Sanna... although that too is a dying language.

http://www.cypriotacademy.com/sanna.html

This Cypriot Man has very funy ideas ......... If he was in Cyprus i would think that he was effected from booldy sun !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Believe me, the rest of the world thinks it's you who is affected by the bloody sun. Not to mention Turkey's iron grip.

On the forums Cypriots u can find too many members for Gibrizlica or Cypriot ,Cypriot-ism .... they are all gives u mis calculation .....

What's wrong with exploring these ideas, exactly? It's far easier to do so with like-minded people on places like Facebook - where you won't be ridiculed by old imbeciles like you, for choosing to think differently. Or persecuted by the military, for daring to distance yourself from the 'motherland'.

[The Cypriot]

I've just discovered Portuguese is actually a dialect of Spanish! Look at how similar the numbers 1 to 10 are:

_______Spanish____Dialect of Spanish spoken in Portugal
1.______uno________um
2.______dos________dois
3.______tres________três
4.______cuatro______quatro
5.______cinco_______cinco
6.______seis________seis
7.______siete_______sete
8.______ocho_______oito
9.______nueve______nove
10._____diez________dez

How foolish the Portuguese must feel, thinking they had their own language?

[Oracle]

I've just discovered Portuguese is actually a dialect of Spanish! Look at how similar the numbers 1 to 10 are:

_______Spanish____Dialect of Spanish spoken in Portugal
1.______uno________um
2.______dos________dois
3.______tres________três
4.______cuatro______quatro
5.______cinco_______cinco
6.______seis________seis
7.______siete_______sete
8.______ocho_______oito
9.______nueve______nove
10._____diez________dez

How foolish the Portuguese must feel, thinking they had their own language?

Good boy! I click and you respond in kind ....

Precisely why Cypriot/Gybreiga is a dialect of Greek!

[denizaksulu]

I've just discovered Portuguese is actually a dialect of Spanish! Look at how similar the numbers 1 to 10 are:

_______Spanish____Dialect of Spanish spoken in Portugal
1.______uno________um
2.______dos________dois
3.______tres________três
4.______cuatro______quatro
5.______cinco_______cinco
6.______seis________seis
7.______siete_______sete
8.______ocho_______oito
9.______nueve______nove
10._____diez________dez

How foolish the Portuguese must feel, thinking they had their own language?

Good boy! I click and you respond in kind ....

Precisely why Cypriot/Gybreiga is a dialect of Greek!

In spite of all the Turkish loan words

Oops!!

[Oracle]

I've just discovered Portuguese is actually a dialect of Spanish! Look at how similar the numbers 1 to 10 are:

_______Spanish____Dialect of Spanish spoken in Portugal
1.______uno________um
2.______dos________dois
3.______tres________três
4.______cuatro______quatro
5.______cinco_______cinco
6.______seis________seis
7.______siete_______sete
8.______ocho_______oito
9.______nueve______nove
10._____diez________dez

How foolish the Portuguese must feel, thinking they had their own language?

Good boy! I click and you respond in kind ....

Precisely why Cypriot/Gybreiga is a dialect of Greek!

In spite of all the Turkish loan words

Oops!!

Deniz ... be very careful ... thanks to Kemal, you have more European loan words than any other language currently in use outside Europe

Hahaha ... but the Cypriot fell in to that one ... deep!

[The Cypriot]

I've just discovered Portuguese is actually a dialect of Spanish! Look at how similar the numbers 1 to 10 are:

_______Spanish____Dialect of Spanish spoken in Portugal
1.______uno________um
2.______dos________dois
3.______tres________três
4.______cuatro______quatro
5.______cinco_______cinco
6.______seis________seis
7.______siete_______sete
8.______ocho_______oito
9.______nueve______nove
10._____diez________dez

How foolish the Portuguese must feel, thinking they had their own language?

Good boy! I click and you respond in kind ....

Precisely why Cypriot/Gybreiga is a dialect of Greek!

Actually, if you dig a little deeper, both "Spanish" and "Portuguese" are really dialects of Italian - which is of course derived from Greek!

There is no other language in the Mediterranean other than what our psycho, controlling mama wants us to speak...

[Oracle]

I've just discovered Portuguese is actually a dialect of Spanish! Look at how similar the numbers 1 to 10 are:

_______Spanish____Dialect of Spanish spoken in Portugal
1.______uno________um
2.______dos________dois
3.______tres________três
4.______cuatro______quatro
5.______cinco_______cinco
6.______seis________seis
7.______siete_______sete
8.______ocho_______oito
9.______nueve______nove
10._____diez________dez

How foolish the Portuguese must feel, thinking they had their own language?

Good boy! I click and you respond in kind ....

Precisely why Cypriot/Gybreiga is a dialect of Greek!

Actually, if you dig a little deeper, both "Spanish" and "Portuguese" are really dialects of Italian - which is of course derived from Greek!

There is no other language in the Mediterranean other than what our psycho, controlling mama speaks...

Thank you dear ... you are magnanimous in defeat!

Cypriot/Gybraiga ... is a dialect of Greek and you have managed to insult those people of Cyprus who rightfully have done nothing else but admit (proudly) that they speak Greek!

It is only you who tried to reduce the language of Cypriots to a form which can only (academically), at best be described as a regional dialect. A thing in itself to be proud of ... if not snobbishly polished in the manner to which you subscribe!

So grow-up and admit Cypriots speak Greek (unless they are illiterate! .. and that is solvable.).

[The Cypriot]

Thank you dear ... you are magnanimous in defeat!

What? The Cypriot never acknowledges defeat. Perhaps you're confusing me with a Greek. We speak similar languages after all.

Cypriot/Gybraiga ... is a dialect of Greek and you have managed to insult those people of Cyprus who rightfully have done nothing else but admit (proudly) that they speak Greek!

Just because you put things in bold and keep repeating them that doesn't make it so. I've defended myself against ignoramuses who are incapable of thinking for themselves, nothing more.

It is only you who tried to reduce the language of Cypriots to a form which can only (academically), at best be described as a regional dialect. A thing in itself to be proud of ... if not snobbishly polished in the manner to which you subscribe!

The above is not very coherent, like much of the arguments you put forward.

So grow-up and admit Cypriots speak Greek (unless they are illiterate! .. and that is solvable.).

What nonsense are you spouting? Of course they speak Greek. They're taught it at school, they read it in newspapers, books, and hear it on the TV.

What else will they speak given this?

They can also speak Cypriot... a language that I, and others, have chosen to dignify. And if you disapprove, tough. It's done now and it's on line for all to see, think about and be inspired by, if their mind is open enough.