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Postby umit07 » Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:26 pm

How many "Gibrizlica" speakers do you know?
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Postby YFred » Sun Jul 26, 2009 4:26 pm

denizaksulu wrote:If it was a means of verbal or otherwise communication, then it is a language. IMO. Like pidgeon/pidgin English, Patoi? etc. Its not important anymore as the Gibrislica speakers are dying out and the GCs are learning to speak and write Gree the Greek way. Not worth arguing about.

When will the Kurdish School open in Cyprus?Any news yet? :lol:

Don't know when but it will have to be on the Besh Parmak Daglari :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby umit07 » Sun Jul 26, 2009 4:31 pm

YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:If it was a means of verbal or otherwise communication, then it is a language. IMO. Like pidgeon/pidgin English, Patoi? etc. Its not important anymore as the Gibrislica speakers are dying out and the GCs are learning to speak and write Gree the Greek way. Not worth arguing about.

When will the Kurdish School open in Cyprus?Any news yet? :lol:

Don't know when but it will have to be on the Besh Parmak Daglari :lol: :lol: :lol:


Yeah, on the third "parmak"
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Postby YFred » Sun Jul 26, 2009 4:34 pm

umit07 wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:If it was a means of verbal or otherwise communication, then it is a language. IMO. Like pidgeon/pidgin English, Patoi? etc. Its not important anymore as the Gibrislica speakers are dying out and the GCs are learning to speak and write Gree the Greek way. Not worth arguing about.

When will the Kurdish School open in Cyprus?Any news yet? :lol:

Don't know when but it will have to be on the Besh Parmak Daglari :lol: :lol: :lol:


Yeah, on the third "parmak"
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Umit, I just don't know what you mean! Don't take the number of smileys too literally old boy.:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby umit07 » Sun Jul 26, 2009 4:41 pm

YFred wrote:
umit07 wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:If it was a means of verbal or otherwise communication, then it is a language. IMO. Like pidgeon/pidgin English, Patoi? etc. Its not important anymore as the Gibrislica speakers are dying out and the GCs are learning to speak and write Gree the Greek way. Not worth arguing about.

When will the Kurdish School open in Cyprus?Any news yet? :lol:

Don't know when but it will have to be on the Besh Parmak Daglari :lol: :lol: :lol:


Yeah, on the third "parmak"
:lol:

Umit, I just don't know what you mean! Don't take the number of smileys too literally old boy.:lol: :lol: :lol:


You are a bit slow then, old boy mush :lol: .

3. Parmak=




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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Jul 26, 2009 5:34 pm

YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:If it was a means of verbal or otherwise communication, then it is a language. IMO. Like pidgeon/pidgin English, Patoi? etc. Its not important anymore as the Gibrislica speakers are dying out and the GCs are learning to speak and write Gree the Greek way. Not worth arguing about.

When will the Kurdish School open in Cyprus?Any news yet? :lol:

Don't know when but it will have to be on the Besh Parmak Daglari :lol: :lol: :lol:



Allah duysun sizi. :lol: :lol:
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Postby YFred » Sun Jul 26, 2009 5:38 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:If it was a means of verbal or otherwise communication, then it is a language. IMO. Like pidgeon/pidgin English, Patoi? etc. Its not important anymore as the Gibrislica speakers are dying out and the GCs are learning to speak and write Gree the Greek way. Not worth arguing about.

When will the Kurdish School open in Cyprus?Any news yet? :lol:

Don't know when but it will have to be on the Besh Parmak Daglari :lol: :lol: :lol:



Allah duysun sizi. :lol: :lol:

The Dag is high enough. I am sure he has! Tovbe Tovbe. :lol: :lol:
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Postby Tim Drayton » Sun Jul 26, 2009 5:48 pm

umit07 wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:Who decided? You? What if others decided otherwise? Aren't they allowed?


The Cypriot Academy, Page on Gibrizlica wrote:

The Cypriot Academy’s approach to writing Gibrizlija is illustrated below in the Gibrizlija numbers one to ten:

1 – bir
2 – iki
3 – uech
4 – doert
5 – besh
6 – alti
7 – yedi
8 – sekiz
9 – dokuz
10 – on


It's interesting that the "Gibrizlija" numbers form 1-10 are exactly the same as the Turkish one's.
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and you call it a different language!


I am sympathetic to your argument that the language spoken by Turkish Cypriots is a dialect of the Turkish language as spoken in Turkey, rather than a separate language. On the other hand, according to the Lonely Planet guide to Central Asia, the numbers 1-10 in Kyrgyz are as follow:

1 - bir
2- eki
3 - üch
4 - tört
5 - besh
6 - alty
7 - jety
8 - segiz
9 - toguz
10 - on


which are also very similar to the numbers in Turkish. Not many people, I think, would dipsute that Kyrgyz is a separate language, so your example may not be the best one.
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Postby The Cypriot » Sun Jul 26, 2009 6:26 pm

umit07 wrote:How many "Gibrizlica" speakers do you know?


Are you disputing whether I know any?

If my answer was only one and he or she decided to call Gibrizlija a language and standardise it would that not be enough?

Another answer - the answer, you'll find, to the universe's most intractable problem - is 42.

Would that be enough?

How about 1,000, or 10,000 or 50,000? What would be enough for you to stop dismissing those who choose to view Gibrizlija as a language for talking nonsense?
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Postby Oracle » Sun Jul 26, 2009 6:38 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
umit07 wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:Who decided? You? What if others decided otherwise? Aren't they allowed?


The Cypriot Academy, Page on Gibrizlica wrote:

The Cypriot Academy’s approach to writing Gibrizlija is illustrated below in the Gibrizlija numbers one to ten:

1 – bir
2 – iki
3 – uech
4 – doert
5 – besh
6 – alti
7 – yedi
8 – sekiz
9 – dokuz
10 – on


It's interesting that the "Gibrizlija" numbers form 1-10 are exactly the same as the Turkish one's.
:lol:

and you call it a different language!


I am sympathetic to your argument that the language spoken by Turkish Cypriots is a dialect of the Turkish language as spoken in Turkey, rather than a separate language. On the other hand, according to the Lonely Planet guide to Central Asia, the numbers 1-10 in Kyrgyz are as follow:

1 - bir
2- eki
3 - üch
4 - tört
5 - besh
6 - alty
7 - jety
8 - segiz
9 - toguz
10 - on


which are also very similar to the numbers in Turkish. Not many people, I think, would dipsute that Kyrgyz is a separate language, so your example may not be the best one.


Are the differences in the order of those such as Spanish and Portuguese for example?
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