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[JustAnAmerican]

G/C SIDE PREVENTS BULGARIANS LIVING IN THE NORTH TO CAST VOTE

YENIDUZEN (Ozcan Ozcanhan) reports that about 200 Bulgarians were not allowed to enter the south on Saturday to cast their votes for Bulgarian elections. The group gathered at the Ledra Palace checkpoint and wanted to cross to the south to go to the Bulgarian Embassy to cast their vote for their parliamentary elections. The group was told that they were accepted as “settlers” by the G/C side and therefore they could not cross to the south. The G/C police said it would allow only three Bulgarians in the group to cross to the south, who entered the north twenty days ago and who were therefore not “settlers” but “tourists”. It is also reported that G/C police took security measures by bringing a commando unit to the checkpoint. The Bulgarian Ambassador arrived at the incident place and calmed down his citizens. However, despite the Ambassador’s efforts, the Bulgarians were not allowed to cross and use their votes. It is reported that G/C police collected the passports of the Bulgarians. According to an unnamed G/C journalist, police gathered the passports in order “to note names and numbers on passports to put them on a stop list.” It is reported that the Bulgarians had to wait for hours under the sun. Ozcanhan concludes, “the world and the UN should see and understand the thinking of G/Cs and what the ROC is all about.”

[Kifeas]

"It is reported that the Bulgarians had to wait for hours under the sun. Ozcanhan concludes, “the world and the UN should see and understand the thinking of G/Cs and what the ROC is all about.”

It was well known days before that those people were not going to be allowed to cross to the south. If they waited under the sun for hours, it is not the fault of the RoC.

Ideally they should have been arrested by the police and deported from Cyprus for illegal entry and settlement in north Cyprus; likewise the US government does in similar cases. (Actually in Texas they do something even worst, they shoot the Mexicans who attempt to cross the boarder.)

[JustAnAmerican]

[i]" likewise the US government does in similar cases. (Actually in Texas they do something even worst, they shoot the Mexicans who attempt to cross the boarder.)

Trust me, we don't shoot Mexicans trying to cross the border, but we would like to. Most Mexicans are passing through the desert illegally, not walking to the border trying to vote at their Embassy.

[Kifeas]

[i]" likewise the US government does in similar cases. (Actually in Texas they do something even worst, they shoot the Mexicans who attempt to cross the boarder.)

Trust me, we don't shoot Mexicans trying to cross the border, but we would like to. Most Mexicans are passing through the desert illegally, not walking to the border trying to vote at their Embassy.

Occasionally you do shoot them! There were such cases.

In the same way that the Mexican immigrants cross illegally through the dessert, the settlers in the north came illegally from or through Turkey, exploiting the inability of the RoC to exercise its control over the illegally occupied by Turkey, part of its territory. I know you do not agree with this argument but international legality agrees with it and this is enough.

[-mikkie2-]

JustAnAmerican,

So you would allow a Mexican that illegally entered the USA to go and vote at a Mexican consulate in the states?

This is a joke! The Bulgarians that live in the north probably have passports that have expired long ago since most of these people have been there since the 80's.

And to top it all they probably live in a greek cypriot owned house which was probably given to them free.

Great! So they want to vote. They should bloody well go back to Bulgaria then if they want to vote for representatives of their country in which they don't even live.

[JustAnAmerican]

I would love to see an article about the shooting of Mexicans. There are some US Customs and Immigration people here in Nicosia that would love to know that instead of catching, holding and processing the illegals we could just go ahead and shoot them.

We have wanted to mine and build a wall across the border, but the liberals won't allow it.

[brother]

So are you saying that the Bulgarian ambassoder fom S.Cyprus was lying when he said that they should be allowed through based on E.U regs?

And so the ROC basicly uses the laws in its favour and completely ignores the ones it does not like, nice biased politics mate.

[Kifeas]

I would love to see an article about the shooting of Mexicans. There are some US Customs and Immigration people here in Nicosia that would love to know that instead of catching, holding and processing the illegals we could just go ahead and shoot them.

We have wanted to mine and build a wall across the border, but the liberals won't allow it.

JustanAmerican.
I do not say that this is the official policy of the US. However I remember very well reading in the press that individual boarder patrollers did shoot people. I assume that when it was discovered and proved, those people most probably were punished.

[JustAnAmerican]

Kifeas and Mickkie2,
I see your point. Good answer!

The Bulgarians have not done what us and the UK do.

We avoid this problem by establishing a North office of the US Embassy in the TRNC. We handle all issues with the north-side travel, birth abroads and voting in US elections by having anyone in TRNC travel to the north office. That way they do not have to go south and be called a settler when they have proof of travel within the last 90 days.

[Kifeas]

So are you saying that the Bulgarian ambassoder fom S.Cyprus was lying when he said that they should be allowed through based on E.U regs?

And so the ROC basicly uses the laws in its favour and completely ignores the ones it does not like, nice biased politics mate.

EU green line regs refer to EU citizens. Bulgaria is not in the EU yet. Furthermore, there is a clear misconception about the EU regs. The E.U green line regs relate to the allowance of E.U. citizens to cross freely from north to south. However, that doesn't alleviate the illegality of their entry into Cyprus and the fact that may at any time be prosecuted for this reason, if they came through occupied ports. In theory and by the RoC law, they are still subjects of RoC law violations. It is another issue if the RoC chooses to close its eyes on this issue, for purely political reasons.