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Postby yialousa1971 » Sun Jul 26, 2009 11:25 pm

Get Real! wrote:
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Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:The real under tones of GC mentality TCs open your eyes and see the reality that will face you if you decide to surrender and unite with GCs.

Says the two-faced fool who simultaneously had a full blown Turkish military parade and jets doing stunts! :roll:

You’re as much a nuisance to Cyprus as these Greek nationalistic clowns!


Those people in those videos are patriots, but you are a clown. Clowning around with the Turks here, I guess it's like a game to you, one minute posting buddies, then posting enemies. Yuk!

Get out of here you time wasting Greek punk!


Says the forum fool, stick to your Israel war crimes thread, thats only posts that make sense by you. :wink:
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Postby pappy_sydney » Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:33 pm

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Well the Greek flag is NOT banned in Cyprus and if there are enough Greeks who want to show support, that's fine! I don't see the problem with that.

If both my parents were GCs then I would only fly the Cypriot flag. But if I chose to fly the Greek flag, it's only because I'm half Greek, but in Cyprus I would choose the RoC flag. So, if these people are GCs and not Greeks, then I too am not happy that they chose the Greek flag above the RoC flag!


Thats not quite true Oracle, Cypriots also fly the Greek flag, we consider both the official ROC flag and the Hellenic flag ( its the flag of all Hellenes, not just flag of Greece ) as ours....Dont listen to the nonsense that "The Cypriot", GR and Miltiades talk about on here.

People shouldnt mix the Greek flag with the extremists in the GC community who are borderline neo-nazis. Most of those teenagers really are patriotic but some are part of extremist organisations.
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Postby The Cypriot » Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:51 pm

pappy_sydney wrote:
Thats not quite true Oracle, Cypriots also fly the Greek flag, we consider both the official ROC flag and the Hellenic flag ( its the flag of all Hellenes, not just flag of Greece ) as ours....Dont listen to the nonsense that "The Cypriot", GR and Miltiades talk about on here.

People shouldnt mix the Greek flag with the extremists in the GC community who are borderline neo-nazis. Most of those teenagers really are patriotic but some are part of extremist organisations.


Actually, I'm very careful to ensure what I say makes a lot of sense, so if you're going to glibly describe it as nonsense you're going to have to explain why exactly. And take care not to talk nonsense yourself.
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Postby miltiades » Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:09 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
pappy_sydney wrote:
Thats not quite true Oracle, Cypriots also fly the Greek flag, we consider both the official ROC flag and the Hellenic flag ( its the flag of all Hellenes, not just flag of Greece ) as ours....Dont listen to the nonsense that "The Cypriot", GR and Miltiades talk about on here.

People shouldnt mix the Greek flag with the extremists in the GC community who are borderline neo-nazis. Most of those teenagers really are patriotic but some are part of extremist organisations.


Actually, I'm very careful to ensure what I say makes a lot of sense, so if you're going to glibly describe it as nonsense you're going to have to explain why exactly. And take care not to talk nonsense yourself.



Our flag is the one that the RoC displays on international forums , the flag that we can confidently describe as the one that represents all Cypriots , the flag that is in line with our stated position ie that the RoC is the government of all Cypriots and the flag that the EU recognises as the one of the RoC.
The Greek flag is just that , the Greek flag.
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Postby The Cypriot » Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:22 pm

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The Cypriot wrote:
Actually, I'm very careful to ensure what I say makes a lot of sense, so if you're going to glibly describe it as nonsense you're going to have to explain why exactly. And take care not to talk nonsense yourself.



Our flag is the one that the RoC displays on international forums , the flag that we can confidently describe as the one that represents all Cypriots , the flag that is in line with our stated position ie that the RoC is the government of all Cypriots and the flag that the EU recognises as the one of the RoC.
The Greek flag is just that , the Greek flag.


milti, what you say here makes a lot of sense. And to glibly challenge this position without putting forward a coherent argument is, frankly, nonsensical.
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Postby Turan Tankgirl » Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:30 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
miltiades wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Actually, I'm very careful to ensure what I say makes a lot of sense, so if you're going to glibly describe it as nonsense you're going to have to explain why exactly. And take care not to talk nonsense yourself.



Our flag is the one that the RoC displays on international forums , the flag that we can confidently describe as the one that represents all Cypriots , the flag that is in line with our stated position ie that the RoC is the government of all Cypriots and the flag that the EU recognises as the one of the RoC.
The Greek flag is just that , the Greek flag.


milti, what you say here makes a lot of sense. And to glibly challenge this position without putting forward a coherent argument is, frankly, nonsensical.


What about your "National Anthems" ? Imho the National Anthem for all of you had to be http://tinyurl.com/mee2fz More couplets than the Greek Anthem and more innocent than the Turkish Anthem
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Postby Oracle » Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:36 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
pappy_sydney wrote:
Thats not quite true Oracle, Cypriots also fly the Greek flag, we consider both the official ROC flag and the Hellenic flag ( its the flag of all Hellenes, not just flag of Greece ) as ours....Dont listen to the nonsense that "The Cypriot", GR and Miltiades talk about on here.

People shouldnt mix the Greek flag with the extremists in the GC community who are borderline neo-nazis. Most of those teenagers really are patriotic but some are part of extremist organisations.


Actually, I'm very careful to ensure what I say makes a lot of sense, so if you're going to glibly describe it as nonsense you're going to have to explain why exactly. And take care not to talk nonsense yourself.


Since pappy_sydney doesn't post frequently; I'll take the liberty to suggest this is what may be considered as some of your nonsense Cypriot .... Comparing the demonstrators marching against the Turkish occupation with these:

the Cypriot wrote:Free democracies, unfortunately, have to contend with such mindless and potentially very damaging exercises in freedom of expression... Here are some other examples around Europe:

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Military regimes, however, organise such exercises also; but they are in denial of all freedoms... Here is an example from the northern part of Cyprus currently occupied by Turkey's army:

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Yup ... nonsense!
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Postby The Cypriot » Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:46 pm

Oracle wrote:
Since pappy_sydney doesn't post frequently; I'll take the liberty to suggest this is what may be considered as some of your nonsense Cypriot .... Comparing the demonstrators marching against the Turkish occupation with these:

the Cypriot wrote:Free democracies, unfortunately, have to contend with such mindless and potentially very damaging exercises in freedom of expression... Here are some other examples around Europe:

Image

Image

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Military regimes, however, organise such exercises also; but they are in denial of all freedoms... Here is an example from the northern part of Cyprus currently occupied by Turkey's army:

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Yup ... nonsense!


Nonsense, Oracle!

As pappa-sydney acknowledges himself, some of the teenage demonstrators are part of extremist organisations. While some of the people in the above photos are simply misguided patriots.
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Postby Oracle » Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:56 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Since pappy_sydney doesn't post frequently; I'll take the liberty to suggest this is what may be considered as some of your nonsense Cypriot .... Comparing the demonstrators marching against the Turkish occupation with these:

the Cypriot wrote:Free democracies, unfortunately, have to contend with such mindless and potentially very damaging exercises in freedom of expression... Here are some other examples around Europe:

Image

Image

Image

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Military regimes, however, organise such exercises also; but they are in denial of all freedoms... Here is an example from the northern part of Cyprus currently occupied by Turkey's army:

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Yup ... nonsense!


Nonsense, Oracle!

As pappa-sydney acknowledges himself, some of the teenage demonstrators are part of extremist organisations. While some of the people in the above photos are simply misguided patriots.


Yes dear ... you can usually tell how "misguided" demonstrators are by what they are marching against.

Since when did marching against the Turkish occupation become synonymous with the nonsense photos you posted above as a comparison?
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Postby The Cypriot » Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:10 pm

Oracle wrote:Yes dear ... you can usually tell how "misguided" demonstrators are by what they are marching against.

Since when did marching against the Turkish occupation become synonymous with the nonsense photos you posted above as a comparison?


The reason they are misguided has already been discussed in this thread. And you yourself agreed it too.

The reason they are marching is not misguided. The extremists in the above photos may be marching for just reasons too. Jobs, housing, rejection of political correctness, positive discrimination, ghettos, immigrant crime, erosion of indigenous culture, etc.

I am not going to have another rehearsed argument with you yet again, Oracle. It's tiresome. And I've concluded you're not worth it, as you're just talking nonsense and spoiling for a fight. Find someone else. There are plenty of others you despise on this forum, and more importantly despise you, that may be happy to oblige.
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