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[YFred]

What was this in aid of, Grivas Decuntis?

[yialousa1971]

[Cap]

The Cypriot will reply to your points no doubt Filitsa.

May I also make a point here.
To be a Cypriot first and foremost does not exclude being a Greek Cypriot , a Turkish Cypriot , Armenian Cypriot etc.
Your grandfather on his arrival in the USA did exactly what every other immigrant did . Looked for his own community , a perfectly understandable and natural selection. I doubt whether he ever denied that he was a Greek Cypriot and neither did any other immigrant.
The issue here is the fact that our island is now an independent island and where at the time your grandfather emigrated to the USA aspirations were alive and dreams were being encouraged of Enosis with Greece , today those aspiring and dreaming of Enosis are a tiny minority. We have been independent , or since the invasion a part of Cyprus at least , for almost 50 years. It is time to embrace our nation and time to reassess our commitment to our OWN nation and our own destiny as a nation made up of G/Cs T/Cs and many others , just as for instance the UK having English , Welsh Scottish etc.

As far as the Greek national anthem the matter is simple. It does not represent all Cypriots therefore it is not what to other nations their NA is , a uniting symbol , the opposite in fact is the result . It divides the people of Cyprus , time therefore to ditch it , time for a NA reflecting the Cypriot people .

Well said Milt.
The Greek National anthem simply does not represent ALL Cypriots.
We should conceive a new one for all Cypriots.
Whatever heritage, language, religion or whatever you wish to identify with is your right as a Cypriot national.
TC's should likewise scrap that hideous cheap copy version of the Turkish flag.

[miltiades]

I entirely agree and I'm certain the majority of T/Cs do so also.

[YFred]

I entirely agree and I'm certain the majority of T/Cs do so also.

I am prepared to go one stage further and remove all the flags.

[EricSeans]

I entirely agree and I'm certain the majority of T/Cs do so also.

I am prepared to go one stage further and remove all the flags.

The only place for foreign flags in Cyprus is flying on the roofs of foreign embassies.

BTW was the skinhead at start of the thread with the "Black Country BNP" poster trying to be ironic?

[Byron]

Thats not quite true Oracle, Cypriots also fly the Greek flag, we consider both the official ROC flag and the Hellenic flag ( its the flag of all Hellenes, not just flag of Greece ) as ours....Dont listen to the nonsense that "The Cypriot", GR and Miltiades talk about on here.

People shouldnt mix the Greek flag with the extremists in the GC community who are borderline neo-nazis. Most of those teenagers really are patriotic but some are part of extremist organisations.

Actually, I'm very careful to ensure what I say makes a lot of sense, so if you're going to glibly describe it as nonsense you're going to have to explain why exactly. And take care not to talk nonsense yourself.

Our flag is the one that the RoC displays on international forums , the flag that we can confidently describe as the one that represents all Cypriots , the flag that is in line with our stated position ie that the RoC is the government of all Cypriots and the flag that the EU recognises as the one of the RoC.
The Greek flag is just that , the Greek flag.[/quote

The Cyprus flag is just a political thing, the real Greek Cypriot flag is as pappy wrote previously the flag of all Hellenes, whether in Greece, Cyprus or the rest of the world to use Yialousa words, so please explain why the vast majority of Grrrk Cypriots respond to the Hellenic flag ?

[Byron]

Yes the Cypriot flag is our flag but the Greek flag denotes our ethnicity, culture, history, language and religion. How can you think that is nonsense? Remember our anthem is also the Greek National Anthem..

Another person with a Greek cucumber shoved up his arse who now thinks he's a Spartan!

Must be contagious... [/quote

Keep your cucumbers to yourself !

[Byron]

Well done APOEL.

So Partition it is then !!

Explain why partition ?

[Byron]

The Cypriot will reply to your points no doubt Filitsa.

May I also make a point here.
To be a Cypriot first and foremost does not exclude being a Greek Cypriot , a Turkish Cypriot , Armenian Cypriot etc.
Your grandfather on his arrival in the USA did exactly what every other immigrant did . Looked for his own community , a perfectly understandable and natural selection. I doubt whether he ever denied that he was a Greek Cypriot and neither did any other immigrant.
The issue here is the fact that our island is now an independent island and where at the time your grandfather emigrated to the USA aspirations were alive and dreams were being encouraged of Enosis with Greece , today those aspiring and dreaming of Enosis are a tiny minority. We have been independent , or since the invasion a part of Cyprus at least , for almost 50 years. It is time to embrace our nation and time to reassess our commitment to our OWN nation and our own destiny as a nation made up of G/Cs T/Cs and many others , just as for instance the UK having English , Welsh Scottish etc.

As far as the Greek national anthem the matter is simple. It does not represent all Cypriots therefore it is not what to other nations their NA is , a uniting symbol , the opposite in fact is the result . It divides the people of Cyprus , time therefore to ditch it , time for a NA reflecting the Cypriot people .

Well said Milt.
The Greek National anthem simply does not represent ALL Cypriots.
We should conceive a new one for all Cypriots.
Whatever heritage, language, religion or whatever you wish to identify with is your right as a Cypriot national.
TC's should likewise scrap that hideous cheap copy version of the Turkish flag.

No we are happy with our anthem as it is thank you very much !