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Postby bill cobbett » Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:56 pm

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alexISS wrote:But, if Greece had always stayed out of Cyprus then there would be no EOKA struggle and Cyprus would either be British or Turkish. It would certainly not be independent


And then you ask the world to take you seriously.. What sane person on this planet believes even for one second that Cyprus would be British.
Turkey found an opportunity and invaded Cyprus. Greece also had many excuses to attack back but instead they didnt do anything. I dont care how nice your prime minister talks about our relations and how much water you give us in the summer, actions speak louder than words and in that department Turkey showed you that they have bigger balls than you.
Its true when you say we could never be independent, only because of idiots that keep thinking enosis is a good idea

Haven't read many of your posts either , but I congratulate you on this one !!
Independence will solidly established when the Cypriot people embrace their own nation and be proud to be Cypriots. I SHOUT IT TO THE WORLD THAT I'M A CYPRIOT !


What did our Milti say?

Reh Pappou, some of us are getting a bit deaf in our latter years. Can you speak up please ... and with your usual passion in this matter please.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:01 pm

Oracle wrote:Impossible! It was already declared that Cyprus was a special case which would NEVER be given independence.

As declared by whom? The British occupier? :lol:

I don’t know what the hell you’re doing in the CyProb Oracle… from your crap that Greece was governed (67..74) by the US, to this! :roll:
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Postby Malapapa » Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:36 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:Impossible! It was already declared that Cyprus was a special case which would NEVER be given independence.

As declared by whom? The British occupier? :lol:


Yes, it took them a while to work out that they could still use Cyprus as an aircraft carrier in the eastern Med without the need to worry about the natives. Perhaps it took a guerrilla campaign to cajole the Brits but I'm sure the dawdlers would have got their eventually.

The irony is that, had Britain hung on to Cyprus, an undivided island would have been part of the EU since 1973 (like, say, Gibraltar) but with no right independently to veto the accession of Britain's ally, Turkey.

A further irony is that, had Britain ceded Cyprus to Greece, an undivided island would have been part of the EU since 1981 (like, say, Crete) but with no right independently to veto the accession of Britain's ally, Turkey.

Instead, the little independent Mediterranean island of Cyprus remains a special case, and will now dawdle if it chooses regarding Britain's ally.

You win some you lose some.
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Postby Oracle » Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:36 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:Impossible! It was already declared that Cyprus was a special case which would NEVER be given independence.

As declared by whom? The British occupier? :lol:

I don’t know what the hell you’re doing in the CyProb Oracle… from your crap that Greece was governed (67..74) by the US, to this! :roll:


Yes, you blockhead. Because of the Suez Crisis, Cyprus was never going to be given Independence ... What's happened to you? :?
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:51 pm

Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:Impossible! It was already declared that Cyprus was a special case which would NEVER be given independence.

As declared by whom? The British occupier? :lol:

I don’t know what the hell you’re doing in the CyProb Oracle… from your crap that Greece was governed (67..74) by the US, to this! :roll:


Yes, you blockhead. Because of the Suez Crisis, Cyprus was never going to be given Independence ... What's happened to you? :?

The international anti-colonialism law (1960) makes no exceptions! Makarios, was the fool who was ill informed and thus useless at the bargaining table during London/Zurich.

So who cares if Britain called Cyprus a “special case”???

If Turkey calls Cyprus today a “special case” are you just going to swallow that and sign off 37% of your territory? :roll:

When it comes to politics, you're an idiot! :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:58 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:Impossible! It was already declared that Cyprus was a special case which would NEVER be given independence.

As declared by whom? The British occupier? :lol:

I don’t know what the hell you’re doing in the CyProb Oracle… from your crap that Greece was governed (67..74) by the US, to this! :roll:


Yes, you blockhead. Because of the Suez Crisis, Cyprus was never going to be given Independence ... What's happened to you? :?

The international anti-colonialism law (1960) makes no exceptions! Makarios, was the fool who was ill informed and thus useless at the bargaining table during London/Zurich.

So who cares if Britain called Cyprus a “special case”???
If Turkey calls Cyprus today a “special case” are you just going to swallow that and sign off 37% of your territory? :roll:

When it comes to politics, you're an idiot! :lol:


So what would have happened if EOKA did not fight off the Brits in the 50's?

Do you now think GB would have relented and signed Cyprus back to the GCs?

Your mythological leaps are astounding ..... :roll:
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:59 pm

Here it is in black & white!

http://www.un.org/Depts/dpi/decolonizat ... ration.htm


Does the UN say that Cyprus is a "special case"???

Is it by any accident that Britain rushed to accomodate London/Zurich in the nick of time???

Now wake up!
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:04 pm

We STUPIDLY signed the SBAs over when we didn’t have to because Makarios was ill informed!
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Postby Oracle » Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:05 pm

Get Real! wrote:Here it is in black & white!

http://www.un.org/Depts/dpi/decolonizat ... ration.htm


Does the UN say that Cyprus is a "special case"???

Is it by any accident that Britain rushed to accomodate London/Zurich in the nick of time???

Now wake up!


It wasn't up to the UN whether Cyprus gained its independence from GB in the 50's, you insane turncoat.
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Postby Expatkiwi » Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:11 pm

Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Here it is in black & white!

http://www.un.org/Depts/dpi/decolonizat ... ration.htm


Does the UN say that Cyprus is a "special case"???

Is it by any accident that Britain rushed to accomodate London/Zurich in the nick of time???

Now wake up!


It wasn't up to the UN whether Cyprus gained its independence from GB in the 50's, you insane turncoat.



You're right: it was up to the UK to decide whether to grant Cyprus its independence or to have the island split up between Greece and Turkey. The former was chosen after the UK gave Makarios the choice between the two options.
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