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Let's ready ourselves for the ROGC and ROTC

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Postby wallace » Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:39 pm

YFred wrote:
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wallace wrote:How come that TC's are not allowed in the casino's? That's new to me.

They ain't got any money to spend anyway... :lol:


Well....the comitted TC gamblers must be the ones that sold of some of the GC properties then :shock:

Not necessarily. Gambling is a illness. The two are not connected. People would sell what they were given for all sorts of other reasons. One being, giving their children a University education which is not free in Turkey or TRNC.


Well....one of mine has to go to Uni next year. Can I sell of yours then? I'll also pretent it was given to me :lol: :lol:
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Postby YFred » Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:42 pm

wallace wrote:
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wallace wrote:
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wallace wrote:How come that TC's are not allowed in the casino's? That's new to me.

They ain't got any money to spend anyway... :lol:


Well....the comitted TC gamblers must be the ones that sold of some of the GC properties then :shock:

Not necessarily. Gambling is a illness. The two are not connected. People would sell what they were given for all sorts of other reasons. One being, giving their children a University education which is not free in Turkey or TRNC.


Well....one of mine has to go to Uni next year. Can I sell of yours then? I'll also pretent it was given to me :lol: :lol:

You can sell it if you wish, how can I stop you. However come the peace agreement, I will claim my land from who ever has it. First legally, and if that fails then personally. :wink:
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Postby Nikitas » Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:50 pm

YFred,

It is solvable, and then there will be the post solution situation which oddly does not concern anyone.

In a place as small as Cyprus, it is an even bet that the economic life of the island will center where business gravitates, and no one seems to care about that. I do not mean to sound anti Paphos or anti Kyrenia, but whether anyone likes it or not, the wealth centers of the island will be in the order of importancce- Limassol, Nicosia, Famagusta, Larnaca.

If people have the right of free residence, then the majority of the population- GC, TC and immigrants, will be in these towns. Once the bulk of the population settles there the whole structure of BBF with its complicated property regulations and political rights etc, assumes secondary importance.

Ironically we will have spent 60 years to get back to the start of the road.
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Postby wallace » Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:52 pm

YFred wrote:
wallace wrote:
YFred wrote:
wallace wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
wallace wrote:How come that TC's are not allowed in the casino's? That's new to me.

They ain't got any money to spend anyway... :lol:


Well....the comitted TC gamblers must be the ones that sold of some of the GC properties then :shock:

Not necessarily. Gambling is a illness. The two are not connected. People would sell what they were given for all sorts of other reasons. One being, giving their children a University education which is not free in Turkey or TRNC.


Well....one of mine has to go to Uni next year. Can I sell of yours then? I'll also pretent it was given to me :lol: :lol:

You can sell it if you wish, how can I stop you. However come the peace agreement, I will claim my land from who ever has it. First legally, and if that fails then personally. :wink:


Well Fred....dont worry...I'm a decent European citizen...I don't sell things which do not belong to me. I wish I could say the same about people in the north. I will also claim what belongs to me. :lol:
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Postby YFred » Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:26 pm

wallace wrote:
YFred wrote:
wallace wrote:
YFred wrote:
wallace wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
wallace wrote:How come that TC's are not allowed in the casino's? That's new to me.

They ain't got any money to spend anyway... :lol:


Well....the comitted TC gamblers must be the ones that sold of some of the GC properties then :shock:

Not necessarily. Gambling is a illness. The two are not connected. People would sell what they were given for all sorts of other reasons. One being, giving their children a University education which is not free in Turkey or TRNC.


Well....one of mine has to go to Uni next year. Can I sell of yours then? I'll also pretent it was given to me :lol: :lol:

You can sell it if you wish, how can I stop you. However come the peace agreement, I will claim my land from who ever has it. First legally, and if that fails then personally. :wink:


Well Fred....dont worry...I'm a decent European citizen...I don't sell things which do not belong to me. I wish I could say the same about people in the north. I will also claim what belongs to me. :lol:

We will join forces yet. I will do the same, just waiting for this last chance before giving up and going down the legal route.
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Re: Let's ready ourselves for the ROGC and ROTC

Postby The Cypriot » Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:51 pm

MrH wrote:Let's ready ourselves for the:-

Republic of Greek Cyprus and Republic of Turkish Cyprus

According to certain inside sources, I have been told that, upon failure of the current "reunification" efforts of Christofias and Talat, the above scenario could well be an accepted reality.


Why will the efforts fail? The free Cypriots will continue negotiating in good faith and will not walk away from negotiations. They will not accept timetables or any reality other than reunification.

MrH wrote:We all know how the Greek Cypriots are desperately battling their identity against the mass migration of people from the EU under the non-Greek title of the "Republic of Cyprus" (the title even the most liberal Greek Cypriot now agrees was mistakenly adopted in 1974),


What are you talking about?

MrH wrote:and how the Turkish Cypriots desire for an independent Turkish Cypriot State.


This may be true but this desire, like the rest of your post, is wishful thinking.

MrH wrote:We also know that the Greek Cypriots will never accept a demotion from being controller of a majority ROC to a Constituent State community with limited rights as part of a loose central government.


Are there any other free people anywhere in the world who would accept what free Cypriots are being asked to accept for their island by a foreign occupier?

MrH wrote:Then, perhaps the REPUBLIC OF GREEK CYPRUS and the REPUBLIC OF TURKISH CYPRUS under the formation of their respective rights as the TWO Partner peoples of the original Cyprus constitution (and not the one being used now! If you don't agree, why does Christofias feel compelled to always seek a solution?)


Christofias seeks reunification in accordance with UN resolutions and EU law. Why would any Cypriot president not feel compelled to always seek a solution in those term?

MrH wrote:and 1959 Zurich agreements could well be a material possibility.


Somehow, I don't think so.

MrH wrote:I have been advised, by Greek sources close to the Greek Cypriot main opposition party, that the above would suit the Greek Cypriot position only if the territorial split is "Fair" (in a Greek Cypriot sense) and the new REPUBLIC OF GREEK CYPRUS does not include those elements of the 1959 Zurich agreements.


Perhaps sanctioning of the dumping of all treacherous, low-life outlaws in an open-prison-come-lunatic-asylum to screw each other over and be screwed over by a controlling military and foreign fugitives may not be such a bad idea. (Indeed, it might set a precedent for other civilised countries to follow).

It would enable law-abiding citizens in the free areas to carry on with being civilised, at liberty to progress and conduct relations with the rest of the free world without interference. Any sane, law abiding Cypriot currently living in the open prison who desires to rejoin the civilised world would, of course, be welcome to do so.

You could call your open prison whatever you wanted but the Republic would remain the Republic and would, of course, be free to dump other criminals into your open prison as an alternative to custodial sentencing in the free part of the island. What a deterrent that would be? Cyprus would be crime free!

And, as for the 'fair' dimensions of your open prison/lunatic asylum? Advice would need to be taken from relevant security professionals as to what would be both practical and humane.

After all, civilised people are not barbarians.
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Postby Oracle » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:03 pm

wallace wrote:
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paliometoxo wrote:when u go into the north its like all the retard turkish are speaking some ape language and the women in the north are little ugly girls with shitty cars..

aparantly any tc is not allowed to gamble in the north?? and the police check.. they allow anyon else but tcs?

Yes TCs are not allowed in the Casinos, but it does not stop some of our more committed gamblers from finding a way in to the Casinos.
The rest of your post does not require an answer.


How come that TC's are not allowed in the casino's? That's new to me.


Makarios banned gambling and so the TCs are honouring his memory ... whilst the rest gamble to show that the occupied north is lawless! :)
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Postby Nikitas » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:25 pm

Funny this gambling regulation. Greece had an almost identical prohibition on casinos in years past. Greeks residing in Greece could not enter a casino, only foreigners and Greeks residing abroad. Civil servants could not enter no matter what.

Then it changed and now there is talk of gambling counselling for addicts.
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Postby YFred » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:30 pm

Nikitas wrote:Funny this gambling regulation. Greece had an almost identical prohibition on casinos in years past. Greeks residing in Greece could not enter a casino, only foreigners and Greeks residing abroad. Civil servants could not enter no matter what.

Then it changed and now there is talk of gambling counselling for addicts.

May be its a form of job creation for the consultants.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:42 pm

Being the treasurer of this “ROTC” would be the easiest job in the world… :D

Balance brought forward (2009): $0.00

…but there’s a good chance you won’t be getting any pay! :?
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